Joe Schmidt Irelands new coach???

by Ledge the ledgebag Sat 06 Apr 2013, 5:00 pm

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Well Joe has now said he would be interested in what the irfu have to say,IF, leinster release him. He sounds quiet keen. He is now the bookies favourite at 8/15. Interestingly enough, Paddy Power closed all bets on who is to become the next Ireland coach today for a few hours as a large number of people had decided to bet on Joe Schmidt. ?????????

by RubyGuby Thu 25 Apr 2013, 3:41 pm

What happened to "Together standing Tall" Fly??

by SecretFly Thu 25 Apr 2013, 3:43 pm

I thought we sold it to the Alaskan Rugby Union?

by **rodders** Thu 25 Apr 2013, 3:44 pm

RubyGuby wrote:What happened to "Together standing Tall" Fly??

It went out of vogue once people realised only Ulstermen stood up drumroll

by RubyGuby Thu 25 Apr 2013, 3:45 pm

Stringer used to stand up but no one noticed thumbsup

by SecretFly Thu 25 Apr 2013, 3:47 pm

Yeah, those Ulster guys are a horny bunch of men, sure enough.

by SecretFly Thu 25 Apr 2013, 3:50 pm

RubyGuby wrote:Stringer used to stand up but no one noticed

Big Paulie did. Nobody was picking on Mini Me when Dr Evil was around.

by RubyGuby Thu 25 Apr 2013, 3:52 pm

I just can't think of something to rhyme with Schmidt when Ireland start losing, I mean keep losing Run

by GunsGerms Thu 25 Apr 2013, 4:14 pm

Wonder how long before some Munster head posts up a Schmidt clock website.

by wolfball Thu 25 Apr 2013, 4:16 pm

GunsGerms wrote:Wonder how long before some Munster head posts up a Schmidt clock website.

Love it. Schmidt out! Ireland have won no games with him in charge!

by **Notch** Thu 25 Apr 2013, 4:17 pm

Sin é wrote:They turn on everyone .....

Not like those Munster fans- Kidney gets carte blanche until the end but Schmidt has to win big in his first 12 months. A patient and balanced perspective! Whistle

It will take time. I'd say he'll have a completely different approach to Kidney and there will be a few hiccups in the Autumn series win, lose or draw. You don't overhaul a teams game overnight. Thats why I stood by Kidney when he started trying to bring the teams tactics into transition initially and we went downhill for a bit- i guess his fate was sealed once everybody realised we weren't really transitioning to anything.

by GunsGerms Thu 25 Apr 2013, 4:18 pm

wolfball wrote:
GunsGerms wrote:Wonder how long before some Munster head posts up a Schmidt clock website.

Love it. Schmidt out! Ireland have won no games with him in charge!

Exactly, what has he every done in International management.

by Sin é Thu 25 Apr 2013, 4:56 pm

Notch wrote:
Sin é wrote:They turn on everyone .....

Not like those Munster fans- Kidney gets carte blanche until the end but Schmidt has to win big in his first 12 months. A patient and balanced perspective!

It will take time. I'd say he'll have a completely different approach to Kidney and there will be a few hiccups in the Autumn series win, lose or draw. You don't overhaul a teams game overnight. Thats why I stood by Kidney when he started trying to bring the teams tactics into transition initially and we went downhill for a bit- i guess his fate was sealed once everybody realised we weren't really transitioning to anything.

Why shouldn't he win big in the next 12 months? He has got the players - the only problem apparently is the coaching! 12 months is plenty of time to sort out the coaching & tactics with the players he has got at his disposal Wink

edit: 12 months refers to a season, so he has until after the summer Tour in 2014. He want to be winning 2/3 in the autumn, and 4/5 in the 6Ns - a championship (I don't expect a grand slam bearing in mind that Schmidt coached Leinster usually struggle when playing Ospreys, so may struggle against Wales.

by Sin é Thu 25 Apr 2013, 5:03 pm

RubyGuby wrote:Stringer used to stand up but no one noticed

Its quite the fashion to slag Strings stature!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWqlC_yQL_M
Very Happy

Also POC having a fight with a 2 year old in a shop!

by GunsGerms Thu 25 Apr 2013, 5:22 pm

Sin é wrote:
Notch wrote:
Sin é wrote:They turn on everyone .....

Not like those Munster fans- Kidney gets carte blanche until the end but Schmidt has to win big in his first 12 months. A patient and balanced perspective!

It will take time. I'd say he'll have a completely different approach to Kidney and there will be a few hiccups in the Autumn series win, lose or draw. You don't overhaul a teams game overnight. Thats why I stood by Kidney when he started trying to bring the teams tactics into transition initially and we went downhill for a bit- i guess his fate was sealed once everybody realised we weren't really transitioning to anything.

Why shouldn't he win big in the next 12 months? He has got the players - the only problem apparently is the coaching! 12 months is plenty of time to sort out the coaching & tactics with the players he has got at his disposal

edit: 12 months refers to a season, so he has until after the summer Tour in 2014. He want to be winning 2/3 in the autumn, and 4/5 in the 6Ns - a championship (I don't expect a grand slam bearing in mind that Schmidt coached Leinster usually struggle when playing Ospreys, so may struggle against Wales.

Schmidt will have more that 12 months. Two years to the next WC cant see Schmidt being replaced between now and then if he gets the job.

I agree though that we do have the players to perform much better than we have been.

by **profitius** Thu 25 Apr 2013, 5:41 pm

RubyGuby wrote:I just can't think of something to rhyme with Schmidt when Ireland start losing, I mean keep losing

Up Schmidt creek!

by asoreleftshoulder Thu 25 Apr 2013, 11:35 pm

RubyGuby wrote:I just can't think of something to rhyme with Schmidt when Ireland start losing, I mean keep losing

I can think of a few things for when we start winning. Yahoo

by dublin_dave Fri 26 Apr 2013, 4:12 pm

i expect a considerable improvement in the first 12 months of his tenure (should he get the job) and i also think we will see it. We cannot get much worse to be fair

Keeping things going will be the challenge especially with BOD and POC approaching retirement.

by SecretFly Fri 26 Apr 2013, 4:39 pm

I think he'll more fully address the truth, in consultation with all Provinical coaches, that a combined effort of trying to push a more centrally recogniseable style Nationwide will not only assist him in his attempts to fill fifteen spots on an International side, but that it will also give serious impetus to Provincial sides themselves.

For if Ireland excels playing a brand that is effective and aggressive in attacking intent, then Provincials will have a bounce in their step and fringe players will have real ambitions to be part of it.... and play with an intensity to put their hands up.

by **profitius** Fri 26 Apr 2013, 5:48 pm

SecretFly wrote:I think he'll more fully address the truth, in consultation with all Provinical coaches, that a combined effort of trying to push a more centrally recogniseable style Nationwide will not only assist him in his attempts to fill fifteen spots on an International side, but that it will also give serious impetus to Provincial sides themselves.

For if Ireland excels playing a brand that is effective and aggressive in attacking intent, then Provincials will have a bounce in their step and fringe players will have real ambitions to be part of it.... and play with an intensity to put their hands up.

They're hiring someone to oversee Irish rugby, some kind of director of rugby. Maybe the new man will be the man to do that. In any case I think all the provinces are heading that way, even Munster are changing.

by **Notch** Mon 29 Apr 2013, 12:21 pm

Confirmed by the IRFU on twitter- Joe Schmidt new Ireland coach. Press conference at 4pm.

https://twitter.com/irfurugby

by asoreleftshoulder Mon 29 Apr 2013, 12:30 pm

You absolute beauty,watch out world Yahoo

by **rodders** Mon 29 Apr 2013, 12:30 pm

Delighted, best coach around. Good man Joe thumbsup

by GunsGerms Mon 29 Apr 2013, 12:32 pm

Class!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by SecretFly Mon 29 Apr 2013, 12:35 pm

I'm not convinced. I think it was a rushed decision that might come back and haunt us.

by Golden Mon 29 Apr 2013, 12:35 pm

Brilliant

Will the rest of the coaching ticket be announced today?

by **George Carlin** Mon 29 Apr 2013, 1:01 pm

Very good choice. I don't think that it was a rushed one.

Why fanny around flying people over when you have a hugely suggessful coach who knows all of the young Irish players right under your nose?

by **rodders** Mon 29 Apr 2013, 1:11 pm

SecretFly wrote:I'm not convinced. I think it was a rushed decision that might come back and haunt us.

Maybe so fly but they've got the right man, even if its the wrong circumstances.

Delighted its a 3 year deal as well. People need to be patient, Joe has a lot of work to do and it will take time for him to get us on the right track I think.

by funnyExiledScot Mon 29 Apr 2013, 1:20 pm

Excellent choice by Ireland.

I wish Scotland could get a coach with even half the abilities of Schmidt.

by SecretFly Mon 29 Apr 2013, 1:30 pm

rodders wrote:
SecretFly wrote:I'm not convinced. I think it was a rushed decision that might come back and haunt us.

Maybe so fly but they've got the right man, even if its the wrong circumstances.

Delighted its a 3 year deal as well. People need to be patient, Joe has a lot of work to do and it will take time for him to get us on the right track I think.

I think he should only be given about four months. We can't afford to hang around if he isn't the right guy. Four months should tell us if he's suited to us.... then we should look again, there's a world cup coming up. You can't fool around too long with a reasonably successful club coach who has no interational experience.

by red_stag Mon 29 Apr 2013, 1:32 pm

Four months time is August. You expect us to make a decision on Schmidts credentials for RWC 2015 by AUGUST???

by SecretFly Mon 29 Apr 2013, 1:34 pm

Can't hang around Red.... we've wasted too much time already. If he isn't right by August, we should seriously open the book again and see who might be interested then. Got to be ruthless.

by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Mon 29 Apr 2013, 1:37 pm

SecretFly wrote:Can't hang around Red.... we've wasted too much time already. If he isn't right by August, we should seriously open the book again and see who might be interested then. Got to be ruthless.

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by funnyExiledScot Mon 29 Apr 2013, 1:39 pm

SecretFly wrote:Can't hang around Red.... we've wasted too much time already. If he isn't right by August, we should seriously open the book again and see who might be interested then. Got to be ruthless.

Are you being serious?? Why on earth would Schmidt agree to that?

You are kidding aren't you?

by Artful_Dodger Mon 29 Apr 2013, 1:40 pm

I think Pete is right, somebody is fishing. Wink

by **rodders** Mon 29 Apr 2013, 1:40 pm

SecretFly wrote:Can't hang around Red.... we've wasted too much time already. If he isn't right by August, we should seriously open the book again and see who might be interested then. Got to be ruthless.

Back up the truck chaps, he doesn't take charge until september and you guys want to sack him by August!

Tough crowd.....

by SecretFly Mon 29 Apr 2013, 1:41 pm

Pete C (Kiwireddevil) wrote:
SecretFly wrote:Can't hang around Red.... we've wasted too much time already. If he isn't right by August, we should seriously open the book again and see who might be interested then. Got to be ruthless.

I didn't expect to catch a fish but I was amazed when someone bit...so I carried it on to see if it was me being serious...or them! Laugh

by Mickado Mon 29 Apr 2013, 1:41 pm

Think he's taking the pish.

It's not even confirmed it JS will take the North American tour so he could have zero games as Irish coach by August.

by **rodders** Mon 29 Apr 2013, 1:43 pm

Kiss is still taking the North America tour.

by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Mon 29 Apr 2013, 1:49 pm

SecretFly wrote:
Pete C (Kiwireddevil) wrote:
SecretFly wrote:Can't hang around Red.... we've wasted too much time already. If he isn't right by August, we should seriously open the book again and see who might be interested then. Got to be ruthless.

I didn't expect to catch a fish but I was amazed when someone bit...so I carried it on to see if it was me being serious...or them!

Have to admit I was surprised at a couple of the bites you got.

by **rodders** Mon 29 Apr 2013, 1:54 pm

Haters gonna hate.

#Justice4Joe

by RubyGuby Mon 29 Apr 2013, 2:06 pm

rodders wrote:Kiss is still taking the North America tour.

That'll be the Kiss of death then thumbsup

by Gibson Mon 29 Apr 2013, 7:15 pm

One Giant step for Irish Rugby, one large step back for Leinster Rugby. Mixed emotions.

I will start supporting Ireland again with more relish. I just lost a bit of Faith in the whole deal with yerman in charge.

Now we can Believe again. As one.

by red_stag Mon 29 Apr 2013, 7:51 pm

Sorry Gibbo your banned from supporting us.

We didnt get your support in the dark days with Kidney. You'll scurry back now that Schmidt is in charge.

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by ME-109 Mon 29 Apr 2013, 8:03 pm

All hail the messiah....

Only man for the job really. By the sound of his press conference this could be hilarious. Regardless its an astute bit of timing by Joe. He took over one team at the top and is now leaving them with the writing on the wall. Lets see how he does with a team he has to build himself...

by Gibson Mon 29 Apr 2013, 8:11 pm

red_stag wrote:Sorry Gibbo your banned from supporting us.

We didnt get your support in the dark days with Kidney. You'll scurry back now that Schmidt is in charge.

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Ja, too roysh! May even go to a game or two with yerself now. We may even experience some of yer actual rugby, after 5 dreadful years. Be great for Munster fans too... they haven't seen rugby being played since their inception. kiss

by RubyGuby Mon 29 Apr 2013, 10:49 pm

Gibson resurfaces from underneath a rock just outside Amsterdam and gives us Munster fans abuse. Thank god there's no permanent damage to those ever greying cells. Meet me in Sneem for a pint and a potato to watch the Lions. You can bring the Advocaat and I don't mean Dick thumbsup

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