South Africa v Wales - 2nd Test, Nelspruit

South Africa:
15 Willie le Roux, 14 Cornal Hendricks, 13 JP Pietersen, 12 Jan Serfontein, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Morné Steyn, 9 Fourie du Preez, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Victor Matfield (c), 4 Flip van der Merwe ,3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Tendai Mtawarira.

Replacements:
16 Schalk Brits, 17 Gurthrö Steenkamp, 18 Coenie Oosthuizen, 19 Lodewyk de Jager, 20 Schalk Burger, 21 Ruan Pienaar, 22 Wynand Olivier,
23 Lwazi Mvovo.


Wales:
15 Liam Williams, 14 Alex Cuthbert, 13 Jonathan Davies, 12 Jamie Roberts, 11 George North, 10 Dan Biggar, 9 Mike Phillips
8 Taulupe Faletau, 7 Josh Turnbull, 6 Dan Lydiate, 5 Alun-Wyn Jones (c), 4 Luke Charteris, 3 Samson Lee, 2 Ken Owens, 1 Gethin Jenkins

Replacements:
16 Matthew Rees, 17 Paul James, 18 Aaron Jarvis, 19 Jake Ball, 20 Dan Baker, 21 Gareth Davies, 22 James Hook, 23 Matthew Morgan


Date: Saturday, June 21
Venue: Mbombela Stadium, Nelspruit
Kick-off: 15.00 (13.00 GMT)
Referee: Steve Walsh (Australia)
Assistant referees: Romain Poite (France), Francesco Pastrana (Argentina)
TMO: Glenn Newman (New Zealand)

You're very keen LB?

Can't wait for more rugby fix?

Need help?

ha ha... did I spell the names right? (hope so... I pinched yours from the last one)   
I might stay up to watch. Starts at 11pm here.

Are you watching the World Club 10s? Geez... talk about rugby overkill.
Singapore is a strange venue. Must be tough out there playing rugby on the equator!

I think i'll wind up the rooster for this one, I have a feeling its going to be a cracker.

World club ten?

Didn't even know about it.

Just went throguh the channels, not being shown in SA, but we have a recorded AFL match on, Richmond vs Sydney Swans

aucklandlaurie wrote:
I think i'll wind up the rooster for this one, I have a feeling its going to be a cracker.

Yes, it's been a big day for you.             

Did you get up early to watch Italy v Costa Rica? France-Switz was a ripper of a game. That's what the WC is all about for me.

Linebreaker wrote:

aucklandlaurie wrote:
I think i'll wind up the rooster for this one, I have a feeling its going to be a cracker.

Yes, it's been a big day for you.             

Did you get up early to watch Italy v Costa Rica? France-Switz was a ripper of a game. That's what the WC is all about for me.

nah, I dont watch the soccer, never liked it. Im currently watching the Warriors playing Brisbane, 17-10 to Auckland with 14 minutes to go.

Biltong wrote:Just went throguh the channels, not being shown in SA, but we have a recorded AFL match on, Richmond vs Sydney Swans

That was 24 hours ago. Swans off their game but managed to sneak a win thanks to Buddy. ooops! did you want to know the result?

Just saw Auckland beat Wasps... Brumbies were leading Cardiff last time I saw.

Honestly don't see where Wales will compete in this game, last week they were so disjointed, and didn't look like them at all.

Wales need a huge injection of urgency to stand a chance at keeping the score respectable

Linebreaker wrote:

Biltong wrote:Just went throguh the channels, not being shown in SA, but we have a recorded AFL match on, Richmond vs Sydney Swans

That was 24 hours ago. Swans off their game but managed to sneak a win thanks to Buddy. ooops! did you want to know the result?

Just saw Auckland beat Wasps... Brumbies were leading Cardiff last time I saw.

Nah, don't care, I tried watching an AFL game once, looks like it might be fun to play, but not to watch.

Neutralee wrote:Honestly don't see where Wales will compete in this game, last week they were so disjointed, and didn't look like them at all.

Wales need a huge injection of urgency to stand a chance at keeping the score respectable

I agree, lee. I fear Wales will have Plenty on their hands to keep SA at Bay.   

Biltong, is this venue near Kruger National Park or the other way NW up towards Botswana? If the former... it could be a severe mauling from your blokes.

re AFL: absolutely buggerising to play (legs go to jelly quickly; then you have to hoof it downfield with accuracy if possible). Fantastic to watch a great game. They way they run and kick into space is quite spectacular to watch.

Just looking at the back lines...

Wales back line matches SA for physicality, nous and finishing abilities (as an entire unit) but once again platform will be everything.

The breakdown is going to be key, looking at the options in both packs...

Du plessis will put his head in anywhere and is murder to shift,
That back row will flood and physically damage given half the chance!!!

Jenkins and owens are always a bit of a threat given half the chance
Wales back row has a silky ball carrier, a chopper and turn bull who makes andy Powell look effective, there is literally no breakdown nous there whatsoever.

If Wales speed the game up they'll be susceptible to turnovers and breakaway tries, if they slow the game down they'll go narrow, and nowhere.

The line out will be dominated by SA, steins kicking game is superior, not to mention le roux's 2nd option, and the scrum will be scrappy and a free for all.

Wales cannot win this game.

sorry, it was London Welsh v Auckland Blues above.

Samoa have just defeated Biarritz 35-12.

Linebreaker wrote:

Neutralee wrote:Honestly don't see where Wales will compete in this game, last week they were so disjointed, and didn't look like them at all.

Wales need a huge injection of urgency to stand a chance at keeping the score respectable

I agree, lee. I fear Wales will have Plenty on their hands to keep SA at Bay.   

Biltong, is this venue near Kruger National Park or the other way NW up towards Botswana? If the former... it could be a severe mauling from your blokes.

re AFL: absolutely buggerising to play (legs go to jelly quickly; then you have to hoof it downfield with accuracy if possible). Fantastic to watch a great game. They way they run and kick into space is quite spectacular to watch.

yeah, Nelspruit is very close to the Kruger.

Is that the cool looking black & white stadium they used for the world cup?

Ed: just checked. Yes... it's the zebra stadium!   

I don't understand AFL, watched a bit myself. It's like they got to a cricket ground and decided to come up with a game that uses every blade of grass. Fun to watch though.

Mike Phillips remembering why he gets picked - finally a bit of aggression.

Good start

Brilliant commentating by the S African lot, after 37 seconds we were playing the same old same old!!

OBJECTIVE or what ?????

I thought that was good too rainbow.

Mike Phillips, half break no pace, kick to nothing, not looking good.

Wales looking so weak at the breakdown

Charteris needs to learn how to carry

Brilliant try Dr Roberts

Very good try Wales, SA making silly mistakes here, dropping off tackles

Beautiful try, have to concentrate now.

We need the next score, keep the pressure on

What the hell is going on??????  

Get in Wales! Great stuff!

17 - 0 ?????????

I did not expect this! Well done Wales, keep it up!

Cuthbert!!!

What a 10 minutes from Wales, power from the entire backline!

Nice.

I wish it was halftime not 20 minutes....

Ruan Pienaar on already?

In this form Cuthbert looks world class.

Jesus, Cuthbert is destroying them

Where is North though?

That didn't look like anything to me, hope the TMO agrees

Refreshing call Walsh, fair contest in the air no foul despite player hurt.

I dislike the 'man in the air is untouchable' stuff

If both are jumping for it's fine. If one doesn't jump he gets done. Fair call by Walsh.

I may be eating my words today, you know SA will have the period where they dominate though, it's how Wales handle that

Wales are the new France. It "depends on which one turns up" it seems.

Neutralee wrote:I may be eating my words today, you know SA will have the period where they dominate though, it's how Wales handle that

I know, that's why we need to build a lead while we are ahead,

which so far we are doing

Just another 3,....then another

Jenkins is an idiot. Not the player he was sadly. Really hope Wales can keep this up though!

2 errors and South Africa can blunt our momentum

Need to defend well here, don't concede and it will be a mental victory

No!!!

Worst possible outcome,

Charteris YC

We're going to give them a penalty try and another YC at this rate!

DON'T ENGAGE THE MAUL!

and we did

Jesus christ,

It's a PT and we are down to 13.

So we just lost this game by being unable to stop the maul

F*ck

Maul is killing Wales here.

Very inconsistent refusing though, some refs reluctant to give yellows / penalty tries, Walsh has just awarded a penalty try and 2 yellows.

Most refs would've given one then maybe another, I hate the inconsistency in riffing today

Normal service resumed :S

Now i'm depressed

Niaivity by Wales, harsh riffing by Walsh, and this game is as good as over for Wales despite all the positives, and still being ahead, and only 35 mins gone