606V2 Official top 10 pound for pound rankings (Please submit personal top 10's)

With this forum taking off I think it's time for the 606V2 top 10 Pound for Pound rankings. Each 606 poster can post their respective POUND FOR POUND Top 10 rankings, which I will then use a scoring system to calculate the result.

Rules:
Only 1 post per 606 member.
Only current fighters allowed.
Outlandish listing’s will be DQ (so please keep your listings sensible)

Principles:
Your top 10 should be based as at the current point in time.

Point Scoring System:
Quite simple, #1 scores 10 points, #2 scores 9 points etc… I will tally up the totals by the deadline date and will present the results (using my Excel wizardry).

NOTE: PLEASE TRY AND USE THE FULL CORRECT SPELLING. ALSO, KEEP DEBATE TO A MINIMUM FOR NOW.

For the record, the previous top 10 606 ratings as at 21st December 2010 was:

1 Manny Pacquiao
2 Floyd Mayweather Jr
3 Sergio Gabriel Martinez
4 Juan Manuel Marquez
5 Nonito Donaire
6 Juan Manuel Lopez
7 Wladimir Klitschko
8 Bernard Hopkins
9 Andre Ward
10 Fernando Montiel


I expect the above to change to some degree with the likes of Juan Manuel Lopez and Fernando Montiel suffering earth shattering defeat

Deadline Date: Monday 18th April 2011 10pm

Many Thanks for taking part in this exercise, looking forward to the end result!

1 Manny Pacquiao
2 Sergio Gabriel Martinez
3 Floyd Mayweather Jr
4 Juan Manuel Marquez
5 Nonito Donaire
6 Timothy Bradley
7 Wladimir Klitschko
8 Bernard Hopkins
9 Yuriorkis Gamboa
10 David Haye

1) Manny Pacquiao
2) Floyd Mayweather Jr
3) Sergio Martinez
4) Nonito Donaire
5) Juan Manuel Marquez 
6) Pongsaklek Wonjongkam 
7) Wladimir Klitschko 
8) Timothy Bradley 
9) Bernard Hopkins
10) Giovanni Segura

1.Manny Pacquiao
2.Floyd Mayweather Jr
3.Sergio Martinez
4.Juan Ma Marquez
5.Nonito Donaire
6.Yuriorkis Gamboa
7.Timothy Bradley
8.Bernard Hopkins
9.Amir Khan
10.Wladamir Klitschko

1 Floyd Mayweather
2 Manny Pacquiao
3 Sergio Martinez
4 Juan Manuel Marquez
5 Nonito Donaire
6 Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
7 Youriokis Gamboa
8 Wladimir Klitschko
9 Bernard Hopkins
10 Timothy Bradley

1. Manny Pacquaio
2. Floyd Mayweather * (must fight this year or remove)
3. Nonito Donaire
4. Sergio Martinez
5. Juan Manuel Marquez
6. Chris John
7. Yuriorkis Gamboa
8. Tim Bradley
9. Wlad Klitschko
10. Pongsalek Wonjonkem

1. Manny Pacquaio
2. Floyd Mayweather
3. Sergio Martinez
4. Nonito Donaire
5. JMM
6. Chris John
7. Bradley
8. Gamboa
9. Wonjonkem
10. W Klitschko

1. Pacquiao
2. Donaire
3. Martinez
4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Gamboa
6. Bradley
7. Froch
8. Wonjonkem
9. John
10. Ward

12 months is enough times for me to consider someone inactive and I'll eat my hat if Floyd fights before May 1st 2011. Martinez isn't fighting guys his own size which is whe he's behind Donaire.

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Floyd Mayweather Jr
3. Sergio Martinez
4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Nonito Donaire
6. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
7. Chris John
8. Carl Froch
9. Miguel Cotto
10. Giovanni Segura

1. Manny Pacquciao
2. Floyd Mayweather Jr
3. Nonito Donaire
4. Sergio Martinez
5. Juan Manuel Marquez
6. Bernard Hopkins
7. Wlad Klitschko
8. Andre Ward
9. Giovanni Segura
10. Carl Froch

1.Manny Pacquiao
2.Floyd Mayweather Jr
3.Sergio Martinez
4.Juan Ma Marquez
5.Nonito Donaire
6.Yuriorkis Gamboa
7.Wlad klitschko
8.Carl Froch
9.Pongsalek Wonjonkem
10.Giovanni Segura

1) Floyd Mayweather Jr
2) Juan Manuel Marquez
3) Sergio Martinez
4) Nonito Donaire
5) Y Gamboa
6) Giovanni Segura
7) Timothy Bradley
8) Andre Ward
9) Wlad Klitschko
10) Chris John

I would remove Floyd Mayweather from any list as he has been inactive since May 2010. Yes he's a fantastic boxer but surely you can't be on a list if you don't fight??

Coxy no Manny in your top 10?

where would you rate him?

53rd

DoubleD22 wrote:Coxy no Manny in your top 10?

where would you rate him?

I think that was the wink.

very specific coxy 53rd i love it!

1. Pacquiao
2. Donaire
3. Martinez
4. Marquez
5. Khan
6. FrochHaye
7. Froch
8. Cotto
9. Hopkins
10. Guerrero

D4thincarnation wrote:1. Pacquiao
2. Donaire
3. Martinez
4. Khan
5. Froch
6. Haye
7. Cotto
8. Hopkins
9. Guerrero
10 Gamboa

No Mosely? Your getting soft D4. Missed opportunity methinks.

manos de piedra wrote:

D4thincarnation wrote:1. Pacquiao
2. Donaire
3. Martinez
4. Khan
5. Froch
6. Haye
7. Cotto
8. Hopkins
9. Guerrero
10 Gamboa

No Mosely? Your getting soft D4. Missed opportunity methinks.

I probably got Mosley around 15-20, still a great fighter, but other fighters have done very well recently. It is a balance between perceived ability and recent record.

D4 where would you have had Dorian when Floyd beat him?

1. Pac
2. Mayweather
3. Martinez
4. Donaire
5. Marquez
6. Wlad
7. Bradley
8. Cotto
9. Ward
10. Froch

8, 9 & 10 were the hardest to choose, I am pretty happy with the top 7 as they are. I do feel dirty including Ward mostly on his Kessler win but that can't be helped.

rowley wrote:D4 where would you have had Dorian when Floyd beat him?

12-16 mark, though I can't take points of for ring rust in my system.

Have to say it's a staggeringly generous system when losing a fight 11-1 and then toiling to a draw over a limited guy like Mora has little to no discernable effect on your ranking

rowley wrote:Have to say it's a staggeringly generous system when losing a fight 11-1 and then toiling to a draw over a limited guy like Mora has little to no discernable effect on your ranking

Jeff

He managed to shake off the rust which compensates for going 0-1-1 in his last 2 fights.

rowley wrote:Have to say it's a staggeringly generous system when losing a fight 11-1 and then toiling to a draw over a limited guy like Mora has little to no discernable effect on your ranking

I would be happy to discuss this matter with you further, but show a little respect for the OP and this thread and keep things on topic.

wow_junky wrote:

rowley wrote:Have to say it's a staggeringly generous system when losing a fight 11-1 and then toiling to a draw over a limited guy like Mora has little to no discernable effect on your ranking

Jeff

He managed to shake off the rust which compensates for going 0-1-1 in his last 2 fights.

Couple that with an apparent ability to reverse the ageing process and we are clearly dealing with not only a great fighter but a truly unique human being.

Getting done off D4 for taking a topic away from the original subject. This could well be the day that irony finally died.

1.Manny Pacquiao
2.Sergio Gabriel Martinez
3.Nonito Donaire
4.Juan Manuel Marquez
5.Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
6.Youriokis Gamboa
7.Giovanni Segura
8.Lucian Bute
9.Toshiaki Nishioka
10.Andre Ward

No Floyd as he has been inactive for a year.

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Sergio Martinez
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Nonito Donaire
5. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
6. Wladimir Klitschko
7. Vitali Klitschko
8. Giovanni Segura
9. Andre Ward
10. Timothy Bradley

I’ll put Mayweather back in at 2 if he miraculously organises a fight before May 1st this year. For me, Khan and Froch are lurking around the top 20, Khan to get 5th or 6th if he beats Bradley and Froch to push for 10th if beats Johnson (4th if he beats Johnson and Ward – that’s a serious recent form list).

Tried to base the list on (in weighting order):

1/ Recent form (last 4 or 5 fights) in terms of beating challenging or live fighters.
2/ Consistency, longevity, and dominance over time.
3/ Perception of skills/potential.

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Floyd Mayweather
3. Nonito Donaire
4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Sergio Martinez
6. Tim Bradley
7. Giovanni Segura
8. Yuriorkis Gamboa
9. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
10. Wladimir Klitschko

Struggle to post a top ten because if the list had to be reserved to modern fighters I had actually seen more than once think Audley will end up being around 7th or 8th

rowley wrote:Struggle to post a top ten because if the list had to be reserved to modern fighters I had actually seen more than once think Audley will end up being around 7th or 8th

Very liberal use of the word 'fighter' there in that case, Jeff!

88Chris05 wrote:

rowley wrote:Struggle to post a top ten because if the list had to be reserved to modern fighters I had actually seen more than once think Audley will end up being around 7th or 8th

Very liberal use of the word 'fighter' there in that case, Jeff!

Chris will treat such a comment with the contempt it deserves. Audley needs our positivity now more than ever, he is still trying to reach the mountain top with a little support the dream need not be over.

D4thincarnation wrote:1. Pacquiao
2. Donaire
3. Martinez
4. Khan
5. Froch
6. Haye
7. Cotto
8. Hopkins
9. Guerrero
10 Gamboa

Sorry not jumping on the D4 bashing bandwagon here but honestly, Khan Haye Guerrero? But no Marquez is your head light?

alanqlm wrote:

D4thincarnation wrote:1. Pacquiao
2. Donaire
3. Martinez
4. Khan
5. Froch
6. Haye
7. Cotto
8. Hopkins
9. Guerrero
10 Gamboa

Sorry not jumping on the D4 bashing bandwagon here but honestly, Khan Haye Guerrero? But no Marquez is your head light?

Wouldn't worry about it mate, if the rumours are right about him facing Manny next would imagine this will do wonders for his ranking

alanqlm wrote:

D4thincarnation wrote:1. Pacquiao
2. Donaire
3. Martinez
4. Khan
5. Froch
6. Haye
7. Cotto
8. Hopkins
9. Guerrero
10 Gamboa

Sorry not jumping on the D4 bashing bandwagon here but honestly, Khan Haye Guerrero? But no Marquez is your head light?

Right you are I missed out Marquez, will make some amendments.

1. Pacquiao
2. Donaire
3. Martinez
4. Marquez
5. Khan
6. FrochHaye
7. Froch
8. Cotto
9. Hopkins
10. Guerrero

Glad to see that when not under sometimes over enthusiastic attacks that D4 is capable of admitting a mistake, maybe this can lead to some people letting up on him a little.

FrochHaye

Is that some kind of genetic experiment?

Union Cane wrote:FrochHaye

Is that some kind of genetic experiment?

What a fighter that would be?

D4thincarnation wrote:What a fighter that would be?

If you take their best attributes: Good chin, powerful, fast, will fight anyone: Remind you of anyone?

Scottrf wrote:

D4thincarnation wrote:What a fighter that would be?

If you take their best attributes: Good chin, powerful, fast, will fight anyone: Remind you of anyone?

Well Sugar Shane fits that bill.

Biggest nose in boxing and the biggest mouth in boxing. What a combination.

D4thincarnation wrote:

Scottrf wrote:

D4thincarnation wrote:What a fighter that would be?

If you take their best attributes: Good chin, powerful, fast, will fight anyone: Remind you of anyone?

Well Sugar Shane fits that bill.

Just as he did when he fought Mayweather, of course.

HumanWindmill wrote:

D4thincarnation wrote:

Scottrf wrote:

D4thincarnation wrote:What a fighter that would be?

If you take their best attributes: Good chin, powerful, fast, will fight anyone: Remind you of anyone?

Well Sugar Shane fits that bill.

Just as he did when he fought Mayweather, of course.

Be fair now windy you know as well as anyone Shane was weight draned, had a haircut he wasn't happy with which put him off, his sky plus had not worked properly so he missed Hollyoaks which really upset him, also his wife had eaten the last bag of Monster Munch without telling him and he had forgotten to take a film back to Blockbuster so was going to get a fine. Is it any wonder he was not at his best. He was extremely brave to get in the ring at all with all this to contend to.

rowley wrote:

HumanWindmill wrote:

D4thincarnation wrote:

Scottrf wrote:

D4thincarnation wrote:What a fighter that would be?

If you take their best attributes: Good chin, powerful, fast, will fight anyone: Remind you of anyone?

Well Sugar Shane fits that bill.

Just as he did when he fought Mayweather, of course.

Be fair now windy you know as well as anyone Shane was weight draned, had a haircut he wasn't happy with which put him off, his sky plus had not worked properly so he missed Hollyoaks which really upset him, also his wife had eaten the last bag of Monster Munch without telling him and he had forgotten to take a film back to Blockbuster so was going to get a fine. Is it any wonder he was not at his best. He was extremely brave to get in the ring at all with all this to contend to.

How could I forget, jeff ?

Of course, as D4 pointed out at the time, Mosley only beat Margarito because Marg had the plaster wrap, ( or SAFETY DEVICE, as D4 prefers, ) business on his mind.

The motto is : Never write off a great fighter who isn't facing Floyd Mayweather.

Wise words windy and remember form is temporary class is permanent and styles make fights or whatever other cliche you care to fall back on in the absence of a coherent or consistent argument.

I'll do my best to remember that, jeff.

The cloud is lifting, and I'm beginning to understand it all much better now. Just for a moment I suspected that D4 might actually have been inconsistent and irrational.

HumanWindmill wrote:I'll do my best to remember that, jeff.

The cloud is lifting, and I'm beginning to understand it all much better now. Just for a moment I suspected that D4 might actually have been inconsistent and irrational.

You two could get your own show, or should that be your own thread, so you can discuss D4 without hijacking someone else thread.