2013 606v2 Top 15 Pound for Pound Rankings (please submit VOTES)

It’s time to vote for the 606V2 POUND FOR POUND Top 15 rankings (Q4 2013).

Rules:
-Only 1 post per 606 member.
-Only active fighters allowed (must of fought in the last 18 months unless officially retired)
-Outlandish listings will be DQ.
-A fighter needs two individual votes to have his points included.

Principles:
Your Top 15 should be based as at the current point in time.

Point Scoring System:
Quite simple, #1 scores 15 points, #2 scores 14 points etc… I will tally up the totals by the deadline date and will present the results.

NOTE: PLEASE TRY AND USE FULL NAMES (or correct surnames) & LIST your results.

For reference only, the previous Top 15 606v2 P4P rankings as at 09th April 2013 was:

1 Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2 Andre Ward
3 Nonito Donaire
4 Juan Manuel Marquez
5 Sergio Martinez
6 Wladimir Klitschko
7 Manny Pacquiao
8 Timothy Bradley
9 Carl Froch
10 Adrian Broner
11 Abner Mares
12 Robert Guerrero
13 Yuriorkis Gamboa
14 Saul Alvarez
15 Chad Dawson

16 Austin Trout
17 Vitali Klitschko
18 Bernard Hopkins
19 Gennady Golovkin
20 Guillermo Rigondeaux
21 Danny Garcia
22 Mikkel Kessler
23 Brian Viloria
24 Ricky Burns
25 Gary Russell Jr
26 Mikkel Kessler

I'll give mine after Stevenson-Bellow. A win for Superman and he gets to be in the top five

1: Floyd Mayweather
2: Andre Ward
3: Tim Bradley
4: Sergio Martinez
5: Wladimir Klitschko
6: Danny Garcia
7: Guillermo Rigondeaux
8: Adrian Broner
9: Mikey Garcia
10: Bernard Hopkins
11: Manny Pacquiao
12: Gennedy Golovkin
13: Nonito Donaire
14: Saul Alvarez
15: Carl Froch

1 Floyd Mayweather
2 Andre Ward
3 Manny Pacquiao
4 Wladimir Klitschko
5 Timothy Bradley
6 Guillermo Rigondeaux
7 Adonis Stevenson
8 Juan Manual Marquez
9 Sergio Martinez
10 Saul Alvarez
11 Nonito Donaire
12 Adrian Broner
13 Yuriorkis Gamboa
14 Danny Garcia
15 Gennady Golovkin

kingraf wrote:I'll give mine after Stevenson-Bellow. A win for Superman and he gets to be in the top five

Sensible idea - think that's probably the last major fight of this year? Other than Broner vs. Maidana.

Really King?? A win over Bellew, only a world title challenger, never beaten anyone of note, propels a fighter into top 5 of a P4P list. Not sure a win over Bellew proves anymore than what we already know about him. Cloub and Dawson were 10x better wins than a potential Bellew win.

It's not so much winning over Bellow as much as it is not losing to Bellow, Reborn. I.e he is a top 5, imo, and a top 5 shouldn't lose (or draw) to Bellow,

1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Andre Ward
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Guillermo Rigondeux
5. Manny Pacquiao
6. Wladimir Klitschko
7. Timothy Bradley
8. Mikey Garcia
9. Sergio Martinez
10. Adrien Broner
11. Danny Garcia
12. Gennady Golovkin
13. Saul Alvarez
14. Nonito Donaire
15. Bernard Hopkins

Broner, Hopkins and Klitschko are being hugely overrated

Oh I get you now.

Nah, not quite for me yet. He has only really announced himself as p4p material with the Dawson win. But the Cloud one didn't really say much to me personally as Cloud was a sitting duck after robbing Gabriel Campillo in one of the worst decisions Iv ever seen in my life.

Another win over Hopkins or Kolalev I reckon he sits in the position you are talking about. But its a bit early I think.

catchweight wrote:Broner, Hopkins and Klitschko are being hugely overrated

Maybe, but take them out and you are only left with fighters who should be nowhere near top 15.

Its a doozey alright.

Hopkins probably isnt overrated, But I do find it odd how he always seems to appear on these lists when he is probably #3-4 in his division, and yet the 2-3 guys ahead of him can't get a look.

catchweight wrote:Broner, Hopkins and Klitschko are being hugely overrated

Broner has only got an #8, an #11 and a #10. Not sure that's massive over-rating. Hoppo a #10 and two #15s, so again, slightly hard to see how that's massive over-rating.

Wlad is a very tough one. Almost no great opposition but equally he barely ever drops a round even and has totally dominated his division for the best part of a decade. Struggle to see how he's not top10 at least.

TopHat24/7 wrote:1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Andre Ward
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Guillermo Rigondeux
5. Manny Pacquiao
6. Wladimir Klitschko
7. Timothy Bradley
8. Mikey Garcia
9. Sergio Martinez
10. Adrien Broner
11. Danny Garcia
12. Gennady Golovkin
13. Saul Alvarez
14. Nonito Donaire
15. Bernard Hopkins

1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Andre Ward
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Wladamir Klitschko
5. Rigondeux
6. Tim Bradley
7. Manny Pacquiao
8. Carl Froch
9. Sergio Martinez
10. Mikey Garcia
11. Danny Garcia
12. Gennady Golovkin
13. Donaire
14. Saul Alvarez
15. Hopkins

I cant understand how Hopkins can rank above Stevenson on current form. Whats he done in the last three or four years? Points wins over two boxers that were knocked out by Cleverly and Stevenson and lost to Dawson. Hes living off reputation now.

I dont get how Klitschko can be rated above fighters like Rigondeaux, Bradley or Pacquiao unless its in a head to head match. Nowhere near as good a fighter.

Broner? He could barely beat Malignaggi.

catchweight wrote:Broner, Hopkins and Klitschko are being hugely overrated

PS: think that's gonna upset the Beefster.

Expect his top 6 to read:

Floyd
Floyd again
Ward
Bradley
Broner
Hoppo

catchweight wrote:Broner, Hopkins and Klitschko are being hugely overrated

Put your personal top 15 up mate? Agreed, they are "disputable". However, the more posts we get, the less variance there is in the rankings.

mobilemaster8 wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Andre Ward
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Guillermo Rigondeux
5. Manny Pacquiao
6. Wladimir Klitschko
7. Timothy Bradley
8. Mikey Garcia
9. Sergio Martinez
10. Adrien Broner
11. Danny Garcia
12. Gennady Golovkin
13. Saul Alvarez
14. Nonito Donaire
15. Bernard Hopkins

1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Andre Ward
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Wladamir Klitschko
5. Rigondeux
6. Tim Bradley
7. Manny Pacquiao
8. Carl Froch  
9. Sergio Martinez
10. Mikey Garcia
11. Danny Garcia
12. Gennady Golovkin
13. Donaire
14. Saul Alvarez
15. Hopkins

Any reason for the reply...?? lol

All Time Great wrote:

catchweight wrote:Broner, Hopkins and Klitschko are being hugely overrated

Put your personal top 15 up mate? Agreed, they are "disputable". However, the more posts we get, the less variance there is in the rankings.

 

catchweight wrote:I cant understand how Hopkins can rank above Stevenson on current form. Whats he done in the last three or four years? Points wins over two boxers that were knocked out by Cleverly and Stevenson and lost to Dawson. Hes living off reputation now.

I dont get how Klitschko can be rated above fighters like Rigondeaux, Bradley or Pacquiao unless its in a head to head match. Nowhere near as good a fighter.

Broner? He could barely beat Malignaggi.

Klitschko did beat Haye and Povetkin is his last few fights. Considered top wins in his weight division.

Kltischko followed Haye around the ring dutifully and wrestled Tubby T1ts out of the ring. Hardly the equal of the likes of results and performances Rigondeaux, Bradley, Marquez and Pacquiao have managed. Calling Klitschko one of the top 5 or 6 fighters in the world is way off the mark unless it means actually head to head in a boxing match.

So...................................your top 15 is???????

I couldnt be bothered doing a list. I think its pointless to be honest. Just pointing out what I consider to not make sense.

catchweight wrote:Kltischko followed Haye around the ring dutifully and wrestled Tubby T1ts out of the ring. Hardly the equal of the likes of results and performances Rigondeaux, Bradley, Marquez and Pacquiao have managed. Calling Klitschko one of the top 5 or 6 fighters in the world is way off the mark unless it means actually head to head in a boxing match.

If that's your interpretation of a P4P ranking, then that's fine.

But as I said above, put down your top 15 - will be interesting to see how you've ranked them? Believe me, it will impact the overall results.

TopHat24/7 wrote:

mobilemaster8 wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Andre Ward
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Guillermo Rigondeux
5. Manny Pacquiao
6. Wladimir Klitschko
7. Timothy Bradley
8. Mikey Garcia
9. Sergio Martinez
10. Adrien Broner
11. Danny Garcia
12. Gennady Golovkin
13. Saul Alvarez
14. Nonito Donaire
15. Bernard Hopkins

1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Andre Ward
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Wladamir Klitschko
5. Rigondeux
6. Tim Bradley
7. Manny Pacquiao
8. Carl Froch  
9. Sergio Martinez
10. Mikey Garcia
11. Danny Garcia
12. Gennady Golovkin
13. Donaire
14. Saul Alvarez
15. Hopkins

Any reason for the reply...?? lol

HAHA! No mate sorry, I quoted yours as mine was similar and just changed a few round and dropped some.

No reply intended, just a lapse in concentration!

catchweight wrote:I couldnt be bothered doing a list. I think its pointless to be honest. Just pointing out what I consider to not make sense.

Fair enough. But if you want your view taken seriously, you should post a top 15. Would be interesting to see where you would rank Wladimir as a result?

1 Wladimir Klitschko.
2 Manny Pacquio
3 Chris john
4 Andre Ward
5 Floyd mayweather
6 Hopkins
7 donaire
8 Timothy Bradley
9 canelo alvarez
10 Vitali Klitschko
11 Abner Mares
12 Robert Guerrero
13 Yuriorkis Gamboa
14 David Haye
15 rigendioux

How are you supposed to interpret these lists? Is it not supposed to be who you think the 15 best fighters in the world is?

People are getting moist over unnecessary replies... Hanukkah-related stress?

Champagne_Socialist wrote:1 Wladimir Klitschko.
2 Manny Pacquio
3 Andre Ward
4 Bernard Hopkins
5 Floyd mayweather
6 donaire
7 rigendoux
8 Timothy Bradley
9 canelo alvarez
10 Vitali Klitschko
11 Abner Mares
12 Robert Guerrero
13 Yuriorkis Gamboa
14 David Haye
15 Adonis Stevenson

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!!!                

catchweight wrote:I couldnt be bothered doing a list. I think its pointless to be honest. Just pointing out what I consider to not make sense.

So you can't be arrised to contribute just sit there making snidey remarks to pull apart other people's lists? What are you, 12??

mobilemaster8 wrote:

Champagne_Socialist wrote:1 Wladimir Klitschko.
2 Manny Pacquio
3 Andre Ward
4 Bernard Hopkins
5 Floyd mayweather
6 donaire
7 rigendoux
8 Timothy Bradley
9 canelo alvarez
10 Vitali Klitschko
11 Abner Mares
12 Robert Guerrero
13 Yuriorkis Gamboa
14 David Haye
15 Adonis Stevenson

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!!!                

You not met C_S on the boxing boards before......??

catchweight wrote:How are you supposed to interpret these lists? Is it not supposed to be who you think the 15 best fighters in the world is?

It is, but it is a mythical/ disputable subject. Hence, why a voting system is used to ascertain the overall result.

Try posting a top 15, it's not as easy as you think. There are many subjectivities- the only two I'm reasonably confident on is the top 2!

TopHat24/7 wrote:

catchweight wrote:I couldnt be bothered doing a list. I think its pointless to be honest. Just pointing out what I consider to not make sense.

So you can't be arrised to contribute just sit there making snidey remarks to pull apart other people's lists? What are you, 12??

No just genuinely curious about how people go about acheiving these bizzare rankings. But thanks.

All Time Great wrote:It’s time to vote for the 606V2 POUND FOR POUND Top 15 rankings (Q4 2013).

Rules:
-Only 1 post per 606 member.
-Only active fighters allowed (must of fought in the last 18 months unless officially retired)
-Outlandish listings will be DQ.
-A fighter needs two individual votes to have his points included.

Does that include C_S having K-bot #1???  

TopHat24/7 wrote:

mobilemaster8 wrote:

Champagne_Socialist wrote:1 Wladimir Klitschko.
2 Manny Pacquio
3 Andre Ward
4 Bernard Hopkins
5 Floyd mayweather
6 donaire
7 rigendoux
8 Timothy Bradley
9 canelo alvarez
10 Vitali Klitschko
11 Abner Mares
12 Robert Guerrero
13 Yuriorkis Gamboa
14 David Haye
15 Adonis Stevenson

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!!!                

You not met C_S on the boxing boards before......??

Not on this level though Toppy! ha!

I know he has some obscure views on some aspects..........but that list made me choke on my coffee and nearly fall off my chair..........proper cheered me up. Especially considering the Wladamir beef in the posts further up the thread.......then BANG........his list pops up with Wlad at 1!!! Class.

TopHat24/7 wrote:

All Time Great wrote:It’s time to vote for the 606V2 POUND FOR POUND Top 15 rankings (Q4 2013).

Rules:
-Only 1 post per 606 member.
-Only active fighters allowed (must of fought in the last 18 months unless officially retired)
-Outlandish listings will be DQ.
-A fighter needs two individual votes to have his points included.

Does that include C_S having K-bot #1???  

      

Champagne_Socialist wrote:1 Wladimir Klitschko.
2 Manny Pacquio
3 Andre Ward
4 Bernard Hopkins
5 Floyd mayweather
6 donaire

Looking forward to Truss' reaction.......

TopHat24/7 wrote:

Champagne_Socialist wrote:1 Wladimir Klitschko.
2 Manny Pacquio
3 Andre Ward
4 Bernard Hopkins
5 Floyd mayweather
6 donaire

Looking forward to Truss' reaction.......

Was thinking the exact same thing. I may message him this list just for fun.

mobilemaster8 wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:

Champagne_Socialist wrote:1 Wladimir Klitschko.
2 Manny Pacquio
3 Andre Ward
4 Bernard Hopkins
5 Floyd mayweather
6 donaire

Looking forward to Truss' reaction.......

Was thinking the exact same thing. I may message him this list just for fun.

 

mobilemaster8 wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:

mobilemaster8 wrote:

Champagne_Socialist wrote:1 Wladimir Klitschko.
2 Manny Pacquio
3 Andre Ward
4 Bernard Hopkins
5 Floyd mayweather
6 donaire
7 rigendoux
8 Timothy Bradley
9 canelo alvarez
10 Vitali Klitschko
11 Abner Mares
12 Robert Guerrero
13 Yuriorkis Gamboa
14 David Haye
15 Adonis Stevenson

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!!!                

You not met C_S on the boxing boards before......??

Not on this level though Toppy! ha!

I know he has some obscure views on some aspects..........but that list made me choke on my coffee and nearly fall off my chair..........proper cheered me up. Especially considering the Wladamir beef in the posts further up the thread.......then BANG........his list pops up with Wlad at 1!!! Class.

haha

I put Wladimir as number 1 because he has been untouchable at HW for the best part of 10 years, easily beating his two biggest rivals in Haye and Povetkin who couldn't land anything meaningful on him the whole fight.

TopHat24/7 wrote:

Champagne_Socialist wrote:1 Wladimir Klitschko.
2 Manny Pacquio
3 Andre Ward
4 Bernard Hopkins
5 Floyd mayweather
6 donaire

Looking forward to Truss' reaction.......

Not sure why you would wish a ruptured spleen on anyone, but each to their own.

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

mobilemaster8 wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:

mobilemaster8 wrote:

Champagne_Socialist wrote:1 Wladimir Klitschko.
2 Manny Pacquio
3 Andre Ward
4 Bernard Hopkins
5 Floyd mayweather
6 donaire
7 rigendoux
8 Timothy Bradley
9 canelo alvarez
10 Vitali Klitschko
11 Abner Mares
12 Robert Guerrero
13 Yuriorkis Gamboa
14 David Haye
15 Adonis Stevenson

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!!!                

You not met C_S on the boxing boards before......??

Not on this level though Toppy! ha!

I know he has some obscure views on some aspects..........but that list made me choke on my coffee and nearly fall off my chair..........proper cheered me up. Especially considering the Wladamir beef in the posts further up the thread.......then BANG........his list pops up with Wlad at 1!!! Class.

haha

I put Wladimir as number 1 because he has been untouchable at HW for the best part of 10 years, easily beating his two biggest rivals in Haye and Povetkin who couldn't land anything meaningful on him the whole fight.

Unfair technicality maybe, but actually he's never fought his biggest rival.

Also, 10 years ago he was getting flattened by Sanders and Brewster, defeats he failed to avenge.

I have made a new list

1 Wladimir Klitschko.
2 Manny Pacquio
3 Chris john
4 Andre Ward
5 Floyd mayweather
6 Hopkins
7 donaire
8 Timothy Bradley
9 canelo alvarez
10 Vitali Klitschko
11 Abner Mares
12 Robert Guerrero
13 Yuriorkis Gamboa
14 David Haye
15 rigendioux

Forgot about Chris John who isthe undefeated world champion

TopHat24/7 wrote:

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

mobilemaster8 wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:

mobilemaster8 wrote:

Champagne_Socialist wrote:1 Wladimir Klitschko.
2 Manny Pacquio
3 Andre Ward
4 Bernard Hopkins
5 Floyd mayweather
6 donaire
7 rigendoux
8 Timothy Bradley
9 canelo alvarez
10 Vitali Klitschko
11 Abner Mares
12 Robert Guerrero
13 Yuriorkis Gamboa
14 David Haye
15 Adonis Stevenson

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!!!                

You not met C_S on the boxing boards before......??

Not on this level though Toppy! ha!

I know he has some obscure views on some aspects..........but that list made me choke on my coffee and nearly fall off my chair..........proper cheered me up. Especially considering the Wladamir beef in the posts further up the thread.......then BANG........his list pops up with Wlad at 1!!! Class.

haha

I put Wladimir as number 1 because he has been untouchable at HW for the best part of 10 years, easily beating his two biggest rivals in Haye and Povetkin who couldn't land anything meaningful on him the whole fight.

Unfair technicality maybe, but actually he's never fought his biggest rival.

Also, 10 years ago he was getting flattened by Sanders and Brewster, defeats he failed to avenge.

So if we were doing this list in 2003 then Wlad would not be my #1 but we are doing this list at the end of 2013

Champagne_Socialist wrote:I have made a new list

1 Wladimir Klitschko.
2 Manny Pacquio
3 Chris john
4 Andre Ward
5 Floyd mayweather
6 Hopkins
7 donaire
8 Timothy Bradley
9 canelo alvarez
10 Vitali Klitschko
11 Abner Mares
12 Robert Guerrero
13 Yuriorkis Gamboa
14 David Haye
15 rigendioux

Forgot about Chris John who isthe  undefeated world champion

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Seriously this is brilliant. Chris John ahead of Mayweather/Ward?!


This is seriously funny but I presume your taking the Michael?

Can't believe no one else is even putting Chris John in their top 15.

mobilemaster8 wrote:

Champagne_Socialist wrote:I have made a new list

1 Wladimir Klitschko.
2 Manny Pacquio
3 Chris john
4 Andre Ward
5 Floyd mayweather
6 Hopkins
7 donaire
8 Timothy Bradley
9 canelo alvarez
10 Vitali Klitschko
11 Abner Mares
12 Robert Guerrero
13 Yuriorkis Gamboa
14 David Haye
15 rigendioux

Forgot about Chris John who isthe  undefeated world champion

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Seriously this is brilliant. Chris John ahead of Mayweather/Ward?!


This is seriously funny but I presume your taking the Michael?

No you are right he is number 6 not 3, I will change it

1. Floyd
2. Ward
3. Bradley
4. Wladimir Klitscho
5. Sergio Martinez
6. Danny Garcia
7. Rigendoux
8. Donaire
9. Pacman
10 Adrien Broner
11 Abner Mares
12 Yukki Gamboa
13 Carl froch
14 GGG
15. Addy Stevenson
9.

catchweight wrote:I cant understand how Hopkins can rank above Stevenson on current form. Whats he done in the last three or four years? Points wins over two boxers that were knocked out by Cleverly and Stevenson and lost to Dawson. Hes living off reputation now.

I dont get how Klitschko can be rated above fighters like Rigondeaux, Bradley or Pacquiao unless its in a head to head match. Nowhere near as good a fighter.

Broner? He could barely beat Malignaggi.

Didn't Stevenson only beat a fighter who was coming off the back of a KO to Andre Snored and got shown up by a nearly 50 year old man?