606V2 Keeper League 2012 – NFL.com Fantasy Football Homepage

by crazy_dave23 Tue 21 Aug 2012, 10:14 pm

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606V2 Keeper League 2012 – NFL.com Fantasy Football League Homepage
http://606v2k.league.fantasy.nfl.com (ID 1016967)

606V2 West 2012 League
http://606v2W.league.fantasy.nfl.com (ID 346169)
https://www.606v2.com/t33655-606v2-west-2012-nflcom-fantasy-football-homepage (2012 West League Thread)
https://www.606v2.com/t13037-606v2-west-2011-nflcom-fantasy-football-homepage (2011 West League Thread)

606V2 East 2012 League
http://606v2E.league.fantasy.nfl.com (ID 384548)
https://www.606v2.com/t34054-606v2-east-2012-nflcom-fantasy-football-homepage (2012 East League Thread)
https://www.606v2.com/t13121-606v2-east-nflcom-fantasy-football-homepage (2011 East League Thread)

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2012 Playoffs

Final
Sri Lanka Rams (Barney92) 127.88 vs 93.70 Prestige Worldwide (RDuncan8)

3rd Place Game
Corn on the Schaub (crazy_dave23) 149.56 vs 87.24 They Put a hole in the roof (Forward Pass)

Semi Finals
Sri Lanka Rams (Barney92) 147.54 vs 67.46 They Put a hole in the roof (Forward Pass)
Corn on the Schaub (crazy_dave23) 91.50 vs 102.98 Prestige Worldwide (RDuncan8)

Consolation Playoffs
5th Place Game
BamBam’s Warriors (bambamwillis) 110.16 vs 85.08 Thunder and Lightning (thunder and lightning)

7th Place Game
Memphis Hound Dogs (Mikeygnfl) 93.60 vs 90.32 Enter RG3 (number-25)

Semi Finals
Memphis Hound Dogs (Mikeygnfl) 76.24 vs 77.32 Thunder and Lightning (thunder and lightning)
BamBam’s Warriors (bambamwillis) 97.36 vs 47.70 Enter RG3 (number-25)

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2012 Standings

See Spoiler Below for Final League Standings:

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Keeper Rules

- 3 players per year max.
- Can keep players twice (so three years total per guy) before forcible release.
- Players take the value of there draft round in the first redraft.
- Players move up in value by 5 rounds for the second redraft, or as high as they can go otherwise.
- If you end up with stacked picks (multiple players as keepers who count as the same round) they build up backward. e.g. if my keepers are draft picks 3, 4 and 5 I would loose draft picks 3, 4 and 5 in the first redraft and 1, 2 and 3 in the second as each player would be upgraded to an effective 1st rounder by the 5 round rule and therefore stack up.
- Undrafted players are valued at round 10 for the first redraft.
- Traded players initially count as there drafted position with the +5 rule in effect for all subsequent years.
- Years of eligibility are team specific, based on the round value of the player when traded to you. e.g. if a player is drafted in round 12 and is kept by another team for one season they will be valued as a round 7 pick when traded in year two due to the +5 rule.
- Abuse of the above rule by trading away a player over the keeper period only to get them back afterward will invalidate the resetting of two year eligibility.
- Once a player has no eligibility left on a given team they will count as a 1st rounder if traded away to somebody else and retained

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League History

Awards
2012 Champion: Sri Lanka Rams: Barney92 (13-1-0) + (2-0-0)
2012 2nd Place: Prestige Worldwide: RDuncan8 (8-6-0) + (1-1-0)
2012 3rd Place: Corn on the Schaub: crazy_dave23 (11-3-0) + (1-1-0)
2012 Regular Season Champion: Sri Lanka Rams: Barney92 (13-1-0)
2012 Highest Scoring Team: Corn on the Schaub: crazy_dave23 (1459.68)
2012 Highest Scoring Week: Corn on the Schaub: crazy_dave23 (Week 16, 149.56)

Name Changes
None

Owner Changes
Flynn it to Win It (2012 Draft thru Week 12): cherriesfan ---> Flynn it to Win it (2012 Week 13 onward): TM Moot

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2012 Draft Info

The 2012 draft took place on Sunday 2nd September 2012 at 8:30pm BST, with the 1st round order selected at random and then the snake format doing the rest.

See spoiler below for First Round Picks:

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Summaries of the full draft and the first three picks per team will follow below.

2013 Draft Order
The 2013 Draft Order depends on the results of the 2012 season and resulting Championship Playoffs. The order for round 1 is as follows.
1. Flynn it to win it - TM Moot (previously owned by cherriesfan)
2. The Diddley Poos - GB1919
3. Second Hand Secondary - Take it to the house
4. Flying High - Dominic Dicoco
5. Thunder and Lightning - thunder and lightning
6. Enter RG3 - number-25
7. BamBam’s Warriors - bambamwillis
8. Memphis Hound Dogs - mikeygnfl
9. They Put a hole in the roof - Forward Pass
10. Corn on the Schaub - crazy_dave23
11. Prestige Worldwide - RDuncan8
12. Sri Lanka Rams - Barney92

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2012 Draft Analysis

See Spoiler Below for Draft Analysis:

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by GB1919 Sun 09 Sep 2012, 7:30 pm

I'm pretty pleased with my late decision to swap in Garcon for Bowe so far.

by crazy_dave23 Sun 09 Sep 2012, 8:20 pm

Maybe I should have started MJD over Jennings after all... Never trust the NFL Fantasy Live Crew over your own judgement

Then again... still winning thanks to Atlanta

by mikeygnfl Sun 09 Sep 2012, 9:19 pm

I've got 6 players vs Jordy Nelson to overturn a 70 point deficit. Game On!

by Number-25 Mon 10 Sep 2012, 3:35 pm

Tight finish in store for me and Bambam tonight. I'm 13 points or so up (can't remember exactly how many!) but only have Janikowski to play while Bambam has DMac. Come on Seb.... give me 7 field goals!!!!

by Forward Pass Mon 10 Sep 2012, 4:10 pm

I only need 'Law Firm' to score 35 points tonight

Terrible start in this league for me

by BamBam Mon 10 Sep 2012, 5:29 pm

Number-25 wrote:Tight finish in store for me and Bambam tonight. I'm 13 points or so up (can't remember exactly how many!) but only have Janikowski to play while Bambam has DMac. Come on Seb.... give me 7 field goals!!!!

Me and Seabass have history in fantasy .. He owes me a rubbish performance after scoring something like 18 fantasy points against me last year to give me a loss Doh

Should be very close, hopefully DMC runs wild!

by BamBam Mon 10 Sep 2012, 5:31 pm

Just noticed that I'm up 30 points in the West league, and the Tankers have DMC so I don't want him to run too wild, a nice 25 points should do it Very Happy

by crazy_dave23 Mon 10 Sep 2012, 10:10 pm

Beaten Cherries with Ray Rice to spare (could always go negative... Rolling Eyes

)

Slightly hollow victory as he is still away as noted previously, but it's not like his side is full of bye weeks or duff starters.
It was all about Matt Ryan!

by thunder and lightning Mon 10 Sep 2012, 10:49 pm

40 points + Ronnie Brown going up against Gates and Rivers tonight, could be a close one, fingers crossed I can hold on.

by mikeygnfl Mon 10 Sep 2012, 11:58 pm

A disappointing week for me in this league (unless AJ Green finds 40 points from somewhere).

by Dominic Dicoco Tue 11 Sep 2012, 4:27 pm

thunder and lightning wrote:40 points + Ronnie Brown going up against Gates and Rivers tonight, could be a close one, fingers crossed I can hold on.

Pretty dissapointing from all three players!

by Number-25 Tue 11 Sep 2012, 4:53 pm

bambamwillis wrote:
Number-25 wrote:Tight finish in store for me and Bambam tonight. I'm 13 points or so up (can't remember exactly how many!) but only have Janikowski to play while Bambam has DMac. Come on Seb.... give me 7 field goals!!!!

Me and Seabass have history in fantasy .. He owes me a rubbish performance after scoring something like 18 fantasy points against me last year to give me a loss

Should be very close, hopefully DMC runs wild!

Can't quite believe it but I ended up with the highest score in this league this week! Shocked

I'd love to take all the credit for it but I can' unfortunately.... turns my autopicking hell that I experienced in the draft went in my favour as the 3 guys I started that got autopicked for me (Ridley, Janikowski and Bears D) contributed 41.2 points! Am well pleased with Peterson's performance though - he could be a 2nd round steal (is there such a thing???) if he keeps that up.

by Take it to the house Tue 11 Sep 2012, 5:38 pm

Was a whole 21 points behind RDuncan8 with the Ravens D/ST to go for my team and the Bengals D/ST for his and so very nearly pulled off a victory! Lost by 2 points in the end! Need more points from my RBs though- a measly 8.3 from Turner and Johnson combined. The Falcons look like they're going to pass a lot this year so Turners numbers may stay low but hopefully not

by RDuncan8 Tue 11 Sep 2012, 7:31 pm

Take it to the house wrote:Was a whole 21 points behind RDuncan8 with the Ravens D/ST to go for my team and the Bengals D/ST for his and so very nearly pulled off a victory! Lost by 2 points in the end! Need more points from my RBs though- a measly 8.3 from Turner and Johnson combined. The Falcons look like they're going to pass a lot this year so Turners numbers may stay low but hopefully not

Chin up son! Close one though, didn't think it would finish that close when I checked before monday nights games. Bloody Ravens D!

by Forward Pass Fri 14 Sep 2012, 8:40 am

Week 2 underway
Great start for my team got 32 points from Greenbay D & Kicker Crosby

by Barney92 Sun 16 Sep 2012, 7:00 pm

Good old Spiller. Over 20 points already Smile

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by crazy_dave23 Sun 16 Sep 2012, 7:01 pm

My team is being decidedly average

by BamBam Sun 16 Sep 2012, 7:09 pm

I'm down in every single league I play in, other than one where I have CJ Spiller

by crazy_dave23 Sun 16 Sep 2012, 7:10 pm

bambamwillis wrote:I'm down in every single league I play in, other than one where I have CJ Spiller

I'm just down in every league im in!

by mikeygnfl Sun 16 Sep 2012, 8:27 pm

So many 'big' players not performing yet this season.

by Take it to the house Mon 17 Sep 2012, 12:16 am

Drafting Chris Johnson in the first round seems like a really good idea now Doh

by Take it to the house Mon 17 Sep 2012, 12:19 am

Anyone interested in trading for the RB formerly known as CJ2K?

by crazy_dave23 Mon 17 Sep 2012, 10:17 pm

Take it to the house wrote:Anyone interested in trading for the RB formerly known as CJ2K?

Can't believe I was tempted to go with him in the West league if I hadn't had McCoy fall to me.
I really thought it could only be a one year lockout-holdout thing

by crazy_dave23 Mon 17 Sep 2012, 10:18 pm

Need 12 points off Matt Ryan and Tony Gonzalez for 2-0 Smile

by crazy_dave23 Sun 23 Sep 2012, 4:46 pm

Sorry... I didn't realize we are now trading AARON RODGERS AND ADRIAN PETERSON away just to get RGIII

I know this is a keeper league, so RGIII has increased value, but seriously. This is the top QB and arguably (once health is out of the way) the top RB (especially in a keeper) for a guy who has played two games.

by BamBam Sun 23 Sep 2012, 5:12 pm

I thought the same when I saw the trade this morning, does seem a bit questionable. I don't veto trades, but this definitely seems lopsided!

by crazy_dave23 Sun 23 Sep 2012, 5:40 pm

Quite frankly it's ridiculous.

I'm sorely tempted to flex my LM muscle and block the thing. Thats how stupid I think this is.

by Barney92 Sun 23 Sep 2012, 5:43 pm

Can't say I'm surprised it hasn't been received well. I do love the offer but I probably would've just done it for either player to be honest. Well maybe Peterson but most definitely Rodgers.

by Forward Pass Sun 23 Sep 2012, 5:49 pm

I normally don't vote against trades but did as soon as I saw this
Its far too one sided

by BamBam Sun 23 Sep 2012, 5:51 pm

I could understand it if it was for one of the guys, especially as keeper rules mean that RG3 could be kept for a 5th round pick, but 2 of the probable 5 or 6 picks next year is crazy

by crazy_dave23 Sun 23 Sep 2012, 5:55 pm

Barney92 wrote:Can't say I'm surprised it hasn't been received well. I do love the offer but I probably would've just done it for either player to be honest. Well maybe Peterson but most definitely Rodgers.

You would love it... your getting the massively favourable side of the deal :p

by mikeygnfl Sun 23 Sep 2012, 6:14 pm

I'm going to take a gamble on Jeffery and Lamar Miller this weekend. Not sure how active Torrey Smith is going to be.

by Number-25 Sun 23 Sep 2012, 6:36 pm

Evenin' all! I see my trade offer to Barney has set tongues wagging!

Here's the thought process - Through 2 weeks, RG3 is the highest scorer in the league. I think he's only going to keep getting better. He wasn't drafted until something like the 5th round which means if I keep him next season I have potentially a 1st round QB for the price of a 5th rounder. If I kept Rodgers next season then that's my 1st round pick gone. With RG3 I get a 1st round QB and I can use my 1st round pick on a RB. I didn't think Barney would want to just swap RG3 for Rodgers given the way both have started this season and also the fact that Griffin will be excellent value next season. I thought I'd have to make him an offer he couldn't refuse so threw in AP because I reckon I can get by with the RBs I have. Also looking ahead to next season, if I keep RG3 and Ryan Matthews then I've got a very good QB/RB combo and still have my 1st and 2nd round picks to augment that further. Keeping Rodgers and AP would cost me a 1st and 2nd round pick next season. I couldn't keep both to be honest. Also, who knows if AP will be the same AP that we've always known? Too early to say if that torn up knee will come back haunt him at some point.

If this was a one season league then I don't make this trade but it's a keeper league and I reckon I can give myself a much better chance of winning next season while still staying competitive this season if I make this trade.

by crazy_dave23 Sun 23 Sep 2012, 6:42 pm

Number-25 wrote:Keeping Rodgers and AP would cost me a 1st and 2nd round pick next season. I couldn't keep both to be honest.

Why ever not? You have three keepers and regardless of them being valued at rds 1 and 2, there studs at there position.
I imagine quite a few people will be keeping there top 2 picks. I will be regardless of what happens this year because i'm not getting anyone better next year than Ray Rice and MJD

Number-25 wrote: I didn't think Barney would want to just swap RG3 for Rodgers given the way both have started this season and also the fact that Griffin will be excellent value next season.

You mean your first offer was AP and Rodgers? Why? I don't think Rodgers for RGIII is a good deal either... regardless of how "bad" Rodgers has been and "good" RGIII has been, one has much more of a history than the other. Why wouldn't you try the straight swap... there is no need to throw in a potentially fantastic RB in as well
Cam Newton was fab at the beginning of last year fantasy wise and has faded... it may happen to RGIII. Rodgers has consistent production, fantastic recievers and has so far played the best defence in the NFL (SF) and a tight rivalry game which is often quite low (relative) scoring. He's not on a bad season yet, certainly keeping him for 3 years as you can here is still literally the best decision you can make.

by Number-25 Sun 23 Sep 2012, 7:15 pm

Well, yeah, of course I could keep Rodgers and AP but there's an opportunity here to potentially get a 1st round QB for a 5th round pick without there being any drop off in production at the QB position this year. This is fantasy football, not actual football so this isn't me making an assessment that I think in actual terms RG3 is as good a QB as Rodgers. In fantasy terms though, RG3 is outplaying him at the moment and there are good signs there to suggest that he will continue to do so. This is a major gamble but isn't this game supposed to be fun???

With regards chucking in AP from the start, I hate it when people muck about making trades and waste your time by trying to get guys on the cheap. I personally wouldn't have traded RG3 for Rodgers at this moment in time given how fast a pace RG3 has set off at. I felt I would have to come up with a deal that Barney couldn't refuse and I felt I could spare AP although it will leave me crossing my fingers the rest of this season that the rest of my RBs can stay healthy. Again, isn't this supposed to be fun. If it all works out then I look like a genius. If it doesn't then I'm a donkey! As the saying goes though, better to regret something you have done than something you wish you'd done.

Having said all that, RG3 hasn't got off to the most dazzling start tonight Laugh

by mikeygnfl Sun 23 Sep 2012, 7:44 pm

1.74 pts for RG3 at half time.

by Number-25 Sun 23 Sep 2012, 9:33 pm

mikeygnfl wrote:1.74 pts for RG3 at half time.

And he finished with 25.34. Wink

by mikeygnfl Mon 24 Sep 2012, 2:39 pm

Disappointed to lose in the end. Was low enough in the waivers to pick up Andre Brown (25 pts) and then I left Torrey Smith on the bench (24 pts) as I weren't sure of his status and he was my last player to play.

On the upside going forward I did have the second highest score of the week in the league (so far anyway).

by crazy_dave23 Mon 24 Sep 2012, 10:42 pm

This is literally the only league I have anything resembling a team in!
3-0 Very Happy

Also the only team in which I don't have Jay Cutler... there's a link

by thunder and lightning Wed 26 Sep 2012, 12:02 am

Looking to trade a WR or two for a decent RB, send me an offer if you have more RBs than you can shake a stick at.

by crazy_dave23 Wed 26 Sep 2012, 8:39 pm

So the trade of the century has gone through then!

by mikeygnfl Sun 30 Sep 2012, 8:55 pm

I'm on 62 points so far from just Cam Newton, Torrey Smith and Greg Zuerlein and I dropped Jackie Battle my roster.

by crazy_dave23 Sun 30 Sep 2012, 8:57 pm

You're doing a bit good today then Mike!
The Jackie Battle thing is just comical... just when you think it's Ryan Matthews time...

by crazy_dave23 Sun 30 Sep 2012, 8:58 pm

I totally forgot I left Tashard Choice in my Flex. I was supposed to go hunting for somebody else if Jackson and Spiller were active Sad

by mikeygnfl Sun 30 Sep 2012, 9:01 pm

crazy_dave23 wrote:You're doing a bit good today then Mike!
The Jackie Battle thing is just comical... just when you think it's Ryan Matthews time...

I only picked him up before last weekend then let him go again as I thought Matthews would be back in. Good to see Cam back in big points again though.

by Barney92 Mon 01 Oct 2012, 12:47 pm

The two people I've traded with came up against each other this week. Good old Cedric Benson helped get what should be the win for the Memphis Hound Dogs.

by Number-25 Tue 02 Oct 2012, 11:50 pm

Well, in the battle of the teams that Barney has traded with, I lost by 4 points. Happy enough though that it wasn't anything to do with the Mike Ditka-esque blockbuster trade I made for RG3. He was everything I hoped he would be. My decision to go with Pitta and Finley instead of playing Denarius Moore instead of Pitta cost me the win. Thought I'd go with Pitta while he was hot knowing that at some point on that Baltimore offense he would cool down. Just didn't bank on him scoring zero points on the weekend that he did finally cool down. Hey ho, I still scored over 110 points and when that happens and you lose, you just have to congratulate the other guy clap

by Barney92 Wed 03 Oct 2012, 12:03 am

Yeah you were unlucky with that goalline fumble. If he had just managed to get in there you might have come out with a win and an even better result of the trade.

by crazy_dave23 Wed 03 Oct 2012, 9:10 am

Thought I'd complete the Set with Jay Cutler... I think I now own him in every single league I have... 3 times as a backup, once as a starter

I like his matchup against Detroit in week 7 when Matty Ice is on a bye... certainly a crippled Jake Locker wasn't going to help me

by Number-25 Sun 07 Oct 2012, 10:52 pm

Not havin a great night. RG3 left his game in the 3rd quarter Laugh

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