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Post by Pot Hale Mon Mar 28, 2022 3:21 am

First topic message reminder :

In addition to three tests, Ireland are playing 2 non-test matches against NZ Māori.  Farrell plans to take an expanded squad as a result that will allow him see a few other non-regulars perform. The newer ones may only be required for the 2 NZ Māori matches

Assuming current injuries allow some players to travel, the touring squad will likely include most of the 6N picks plus some more - up to say 42 players.  
Ireland will likely win two of the matches and things will likely go to the third test to decide matters.

Forwards 22
7 Props - Furlong, Porter, Bealham, O’Toole, Loughman?
3 Hookers - Sheehan, Herring, Heffernan?
6 Locks - Ryan, Henderson, Beirne, Baird, Treadwell, J McCarthy?
6 B/rows - VdF, Conan, Coombes, Doris, O’Mahony, Timoney? Prendergast?
Backs 20
4 SH Gibson-Park, Murray, Casey
4 10s Sexton, Carbery, H Byrne?
5 Centres Aki, Henshaw, Ringrose, Hume? Frawley?
7 Back-threes - Keenan, Lowe, Hansen, Lowry? J O’Brien?


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Post by Collapse2005 Thu Jun 30, 2022 4:42 pm

Surprised Healy has made the bench, thought he would be on a plane home after his injury on Wed. No real surprises in the Ireland team other than that other than maybe O'Mahony for Conan. Earls is the only player starting both games so hope he has a better day on Saturday.

Interesting to see how Leicester Fainga'anuku goes. Kinda thought we might see Mo'unga at fly half instead of Barrett however Beauden Barrett joins his two brothers to make three brothers in one team. Thats pretty mental. Think they have only started 5 games together but played in 13.

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Post by sensisball Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:57 pm

Scott Barrett at 6 is a big bonus for Ireland. Remember he played there against England in 2019 SF loss and looked lost
Unless of course he has been playing there in super rugby this season?
Otherwise, it seems like an odd selection.

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Post by Maine man Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:50 pm

sensisball wrote:Scott Barrett at 6 is a big bonus for Ireland. Remember he played there against England in 2019 SF loss and looked lost
Unless of course he has been playing there in super rugby this season?
Otherwise, it seems like an odd selection.

Pretty sure he's played 2nd row most of the season.
That NZ backline looks frighteningly good. I think Ireland's lack of pace out wide is going to be exposed. Also shows lack of depth on the wing not helped with injuries because imo Earls should be nowhere near the 23 if everyone was fit.

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Post by Collapse2005 Thu Jun 30, 2022 7:19 pm

Earls is a good player but I think Hansen or Conway are better options now. Maybe even Balacoune.

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Post by Maine man Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:31 pm

Collapse2005 wrote:Earls is a good player but I think Hansen or Conway are better options now. Maybe even Balacoune.

Totally agree. I'm not a huge Hansen fan. I think Conway is quality though. Balacoune just is pure gas that I feel Ireland don't have. I just think age is catching up with Earls.

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Post by Collapse2005 Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:20 pm

sensisball wrote:Scott Barrett at 6 is a big bonus for Ireland. Remember he played there against England in 2019 SF loss and looked lost
Unless of course he has been playing there in super rugby this season?
Otherwise, it seems like an odd selection.

Thats true. That was the last time he started at 6 for the ABs and Hanson actually said it was a mistake later on.

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Post by Collapse2005 Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:46 pm

Trivia:
What was the last test side to keep NZ scoreless? Its only happened 8 times ever in test matches albeit Munster also kept NZ scoreless in the 70s.

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Post by Collapse2005 Sat Jul 02, 2022 2:04 am

Looks like Ronan O'Gara and Scott Robertson will coach the BaBas in November v the Abs.

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Post by RDW Sat Jul 02, 2022 6:07 pm

Absolutely huge game this! I fear for Ireland but it would be amazing if they put in a classic mega intensity performance.

Game on!

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat Jul 02, 2022 6:15 pm

Morning all. Good game so far. No prisoners at every ruck!

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Post by RDW Sat Jul 02, 2022 6:16 pm

Ooft great try Ireland! I thought they made a mistake earlier in the play not going left when ABs were short on numbers but they kept patient. Great finish Earls.

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Post by Collapse2005 Sat Jul 02, 2022 6:16 pm

Great start

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Post by RDW Sat Jul 02, 2022 6:18 pm

James Low being used as a prominent kicking option - adds extra variety certainly

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Post by Collapse2005 Sat Jul 02, 2022 6:19 pm

All kicking from the Abs, all the rugby being played by Ireland so far.

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Post by RDW Sat Jul 02, 2022 6:27 pm

Both set pieces a bit of a shambles

Exciting game though! What an interception from Barrett

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Post by Collapse2005 Sat Jul 02, 2022 6:32 pm

Definitely a forward pass for that try to Leicester F.

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Post by RDW Sat Jul 02, 2022 6:35 pm

Collapse2005 wrote:Definitely a forward pass for that try to Leicester F.

He's got a great name though!

https://twitter.com/TasmanMako/status/1542579054754160640?t=x1zM3JwMuKKkCdT6U5CdAw&s=19

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Post by Collapse2005 Sat Jul 02, 2022 6:35 pm

RDW wrote:
Collapse2005 wrote:Definitely a forward pass for that try to Leicester F.

He's got a great name though!

Yeah is middle names are Wales Twickenham

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Post by RDW Sat Jul 02, 2022 6:43 pm

Intercept try, Sexton off - long way back for Ireland

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Post by Collapse2005 Sat Jul 02, 2022 6:46 pm

We are getting killed now

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Post by RDW Sat Jul 02, 2022 6:47 pm

This could get messy. Class from Barrett

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat Jul 02, 2022 6:50 pm

Yeah could be an absolute thrashing.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat Jul 02, 2022 6:52 pm

Give NZ a sniff and they take it, they’re pretty good…

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Post by MichaelT Sat Jul 02, 2022 6:56 pm

Ireland have fallen apart. They were doing so well but that scoreboard has moved so quickly.

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Post by Collapse2005 Sat Jul 02, 2022 6:57 pm

Ireland havent played that bad, you wouldnt know from the score board.

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Post by Duty281 Sat Jul 02, 2022 6:58 pm

That intercept try knocked everything out of Ireland. NZ have been close to their ruthless best, if that continues it could be 50+ by the end.

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Post by RDW Sat Jul 02, 2022 6:59 pm

Collapse2005 wrote:Ireland havent played that bad, you wouldnt know from the score board.

That's the weird thing they really haven't! ABs ruthless in their execution

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Post by doctor_grey Sat Jul 02, 2022 7:05 pm

Good morning. Just turned this on. Not a good score line to start the international season...

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Post by Collapse2005 Sat Jul 02, 2022 7:11 pm

ABs keep lying on the wrong side of ruck to slow things down

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Post by Collapse2005 Sat Jul 02, 2022 7:13 pm

The good news is it cant be 60-0

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Post by MichaelT Sat Jul 02, 2022 7:14 pm

Great start for Ireland. Good patience.

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Post by RDW Sat Jul 02, 2022 7:19 pm

MichaelT wrote:Great start for Ireland. Good patience.

Watching on delay? Laugh

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat Jul 02, 2022 7:26 pm

Who is the Irish commentator who doesn't know the laws?

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat Jul 02, 2022 7:28 pm

He wants to hope he didn't ground it.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat Jul 02, 2022 7:30 pm

Should be a penalty try then. Better for Ireland.

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Post by Collapse2005 Sat Jul 02, 2022 7:30 pm

Good try

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat Jul 02, 2022 7:30 pm

Oh no. Its Dickson of course

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Post by Collapse2005 Sat Jul 02, 2022 7:33 pm

Mad decision, his head was dragged back in the tackle

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat Jul 02, 2022 7:34 pm

Collapse2005 wrote:Mad decision, his head was dragged back in the tackle
Personally I don't think there's separation when he went to place it either.

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Post by Maine man Sat Jul 02, 2022 7:37 pm

Dickson proves that he's a p1ss poor ref again

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Post by Collapse2005 Sat Jul 02, 2022 7:38 pm

You see them given more often than not. Oh well.

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Post by MichaelT Sat Jul 02, 2022 7:43 pm

RDW wrote:
MichaelT wrote:Great start for Ireland. Good patience.

Watching on delay? Laugh

It was to do with the early try in the second half. Real time.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Jul 02, 2022 7:53 pm

Big wake up call for Ireland who've been comprehensively outplayed in every facet of the game. What's even worrying is this is hardly a vintage NZ side.

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Post by Collapse2005 Sat Jul 02, 2022 7:53 pm

Really annoying how much the ABs get away with lying on the wrong side of the ruck.

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Post by Collapse2005 Sat Jul 02, 2022 7:56 pm

The come back is on

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Post by Collapse2005 Sat Jul 02, 2022 7:58 pm

Finally a yellow for lying on the wrong side, they have only be doing it all match.

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Post by MichaelT Sat Jul 02, 2022 7:58 pm

Great dive by Murray there

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:02 pm

With this many penalties shouldn’t it be another YC?

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Post by Collapse2005 Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:03 pm

Good hustle from Ireland in the 2nd half.

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Post by Collapse2005 Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:05 pm

Thought OMahoney and Carbery played well. Backrow decent too.

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