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Post by Steffan Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:46 am

Forget too many weight classes, too many belts, too many promoters, too many greedy boxers. In truth, irrelevant of all of this, boxing still has great fights and will continue do so. The real problem in boxing is PAY PER VIEW. Particually in the UK I find

DeGale v Groves

Haye v Harrison

Any Amir Khan fight

Its a disgrace. I dont even have a Sky box because to be honest I hardly watch any TV. So because I dont want to buy a box that enables me to watch a 1970s show repeated (lets be honest thats all Sky shows) and MTV base (hot girls but the music is blugh*) and then pay £15 on top of that basically I am being completely cut off from the sport I love. It comes to something when your getting excited about Fury v Chisora just because its on Channel 5 at a decent time

PPV........taking boxing away from the fans



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Post by pauline1981 Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:22 am

itsa problem but alot of boxing is free to hear on radio

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Post by Steffan Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:00 am

pauline1981 wrote:itsa problem but alot of boxing is free to hear on radio

Have you ever thought about a career in comedy. Thats assuming you dont do it already...

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Post by Young_Towzer Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:08 am

Fury v Chisora on channel five is great, but they hopefully won't be doing that as a 1 off, Khan's fights are a sham, especially trying to justify fighting a shot has been who has always fell short against top fighters, for box office. Nah, i'm no idiot, neither are many boxing fans. Not getting sucked in, DeGale, Groves, Cleverly, Froch all much better value for money than Khan imo.

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Post by BALTIMORA Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:40 am

Khan-Judah's not that bad a fight though, given it's a unification fight...

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Post by Young_Towzer Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:49 am

Khan-Judah's not that bad a fight though, given it's a unification fight...
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Nah, he's shot to bits. If you like it buy it, but i don't get the fuss about a fighter who has been beat by anyone he's ever fought in a big fight who is world class. He's a overrated hasbeen.

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Post by BALTIMORA Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:51 am

Young_Towzer wrote:Khan-Judah's not that bad a fight though, given it's a unification fight...
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Nah, he's shot to bits. If you like it buy it, but i don't get the fuss about a fighter who has been beat by anyone he's ever fought in a big fight who is world class. He's a overrated hasbeen.

But he has a title, so in terms of bargaining chips it gives Khan an extra tick when it comes to negotiating the Bradley fight, and we both know that Khan is all about the $$$. Who else would you have Khan fight at 140?

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:59 am

stef we KNOW this already, did you think you had stumbled upon the answer to boxing problems. You Welsh does news take a littlelonger to reach you guys out there?

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Post by Steffan Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:41 pm

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:stef we KNOW this already, did you think you had stumbled upon the answer to boxing problems. You Welsh does news take a littlelonger to reach you guys out there?

I do try to avoid mentioning nationality on here nowadays. Shame you cant...

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Post by HumanWindmill Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:44 pm

Steffan wrote:
ONETWOFOREVER wrote:stef we KNOW this already, did you think you had stumbled upon the answer to boxing problems. You Welsh does news take a littlelonger to reach you guys out there?

I do try to avoid mentioning nationality on here nowadays. Shame you cant...

Quite right. Steffan has played the game with the ' Welsh Nationalist ' stuff, and we owe him the same.

There's a PM for you, Steffan.

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Post by sittingringside Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:56 pm

It's certainly a problem, but I think it stems from larger problems with promotion and management. Terrestrial t.v won't get involved with boxing while it remains so unreliable in terms of big fights regularly coming off and fighters being matched with a reasonable quality of opposition. Recent events in the boxing world including the ongoing Manny/Floyd saga and the debacle that was Haye vs Harrison can only serve to further convince terrestrial channels to stay away.

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Post by Guest Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:46 pm

Post Fury/Chisora I hope to see an article form Steffan saying that the real problem with boxing is having it shown on Channel Five by a bunch of half literate shaven ******* monkeys.

I remember a few years ago that another channel tried their hand at it. I wanna say it was a Robin Reid fight but I can't be certain. Some young woman was doing interviews and to say she was sh*te would be doing sh*te a grave injustice. As for the main guy, he asked respected boxing journos what it felt like to be "whacked in the face"

It was dire, I can't see channel five being much better!

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Post by Sir. badgerhands Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:59 pm

DAVE667 wrote:Post Fury/Chisora I hope to see an article form Steffan saying that the real problem with boxing is having it shown on Channel Five by a bunch of half literate shaven ******* monkeys.

I remember a few years ago that another channel tried their hand at it. I wanna say it was a Robin Reid fight but I can't be certain. Some young woman was doing interviews and to say she was sh*te would be doing sh*te a grave injustice. As for the main guy, he asked respected boxing journos what it felt like to be "whacked in the face"

It was dire, I can't see channel five being much better!

If the commentator used is a slightly brain damaged chimp who spends the whole fight doing monkey screams and chewing the microphone, it'll still be a vast improvement on Jim Watt.

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Post by Guest Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:09 pm

"Therrr jest Arum punches!"

"He's hut, bodly hut nooo! Thus fight's oova!"

"A huv it Dayvud Haye losin thus fight. Noo way he wuns thus wun"

"Dayvud Haye's the champ and wull duzuvved."

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Post by Rowley Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:12 pm

In Watt's defence think with the Haye fight the point he was trying to make was it was unlikely Haye would get the nod in Germany by utilising such passive tactics, a view I did share at the time.

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Post by Michaels, Sean Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:16 pm

Isn't Jim Watt just sh1te in the same way that Murray Walker was sh1te?
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Post by Sir. badgerhands Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:28 pm

Can't put my finger on why I don't like him as a commentator, but I do find him an aching balls of a man.

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:34 pm

I like Jim Watt but Teddy Atlas is the best.

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Post by Guest Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:37 pm

Best for what, random utterances that only vaguely refer to the fight he's watching?

"This guys like a MacDonald's, you gotta buy it but you can take the pickles off if you want..or go to KFC"

WHAT THE **** ARE YOU BABBLING ON ABOUT MAN?

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Post by Rowley Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:40 pm

The absolute worst has to be Colonel Bob Sheridan. The bloke is clearly not a believer in the theory that sometimes it pays to let the action speak for itself he never ever shuts up

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Post by Guest Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:44 pm

At least what he says is coherent, if not surplus to requirements

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Post by eddyfightfan Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:19 pm

channel 5 should get andy grey in, he could cover the womens boxing too- should be entertaining

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Post by tobbox Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:29 pm

rowley wrote:The absolute worst has to be Colonel Bob Sheridan. The bloke is clearly not a believer in the theory that sometimes it pays to let the action speak for itself he never ever shuts up

Agreed - he's cringe-inducing.

Jim Watt's great, leave him alone:)

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Post by BALTIMORA Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:32 pm

DAVE667 wrote:Best for what, random utterances that only vaguely refer to the fight he's watching?

"This guys like a MacDonald's, you gotta buy it but you can take the pickles off if you want..or go to KFC"

WHAT THE **** ARE YOU BABBLING ON ABOUT MAN?

Have you played the last couple Fight Night games? The stuff he spouts in those is awful.

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Post by licence_007 Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:57 pm

DAVE667 wrote:Best for what, random utterances that only vaguely refer to the fight he's watching?

"This guys like a MacDonald's, you gotta buy it but you can take the pickles off if you want..or go to KFC"

WHAT THE **** ARE YOU BABBLING ON ABOUT MAN?

Haha, brilliant. Teddy Atlas is some man. Even on Fight Night his commentary is incredibly daft.

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Post by licence_007 Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:58 pm

Looks like Baltimora beat me to it...should have read the rest of the thread :p

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Post by Guest Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:52 pm

You are right on the money with this one our kid. PPV has killed the sport for the non-purists, let's not forget there are millions of 'em, and when Ali fought Frazier et al way back when, it was an inclusive event.Now there is much less opportunity to find those fans who would follow boxing if only they knew about it.

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Post by Guest Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:56 pm

And it's no good saying terrestrial tv won't touch it...Yeah, thanks to Murdoch!


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Post by Scottrf Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:09 pm

Only just picked up this thread, but it's a bit OTT. There have been 50 something Sky PPVs in 15 years, they have been more common in the past than now.

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