Summer Transfer Thread 16/17

[Guest]

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Swansea agree deal for Fernando Llorente. Pretty so-so nowadays

[Crimey]

Can't believe Arsenal are making the same mistake again of not buying much.

[Hero]

Even more worrying for them is that apparently both Sanchez and Ozil turned down contract extensions over the summer, lose those two and it's not looking good.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

The slightly sad thing is that I completely can believe it.

Mustafi and Lacazette could turn them into title winners. But, well, Arsene

[Hero]

It must be the most frustrating thing to be an Arsenal fan, knowing that you can quite easily clean up on the Premier League at present with so many other clubs in a state of rebuilding and all you need is 1 or 2 pieces to the jigsaw and that you have more than enough finance to go big on those pieces yet end up with mediocre offerings instead and fail once more.

[Guest]

The quite easily clean up the PL phase was last year. Arsene & Arsenal have now missed the boat

[Ent]

Arsenal aren't good enough and need a lot more than 1 or 2 players.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Where? Because I see a very good goalkeeper, some might say still the best in the league (not I), Koscielny and Bellerin possibly get in a best Prem XI, Xhaka, Cazorla, Ramsey, Ozil, Sanchez are all fantastic players, backed up by Walcott, the Ox, Wilshere, Coquelin, Elneny and Iwobi. And Giroud and Welbeck are decent options up front.

Monreal is solid enough that really I could only see a need for a top class centre back and a top class striker. If they had Alderweireld and Lacazette they would look scary to me.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Also:

Sunderland have agreed fees with Manchester United for defenders Paddy McNair and Donald Love.

Borja Baston - Swansea City medical for Atletico Madrid striker in deal worth a club record £15m.

Tottenham's Head of Recruitment on the way out, heading to Leicester (I think I read)

[Ent]

Where? Because I see a very good goalkeeper, some might say still the best in the league (not I), Koscielny and Bellerin possibly get in a best Prem XI, Xhaka, Cazorla, Ramsey, Ozil, Sanchez are all fantastic players, backed up by Walcott, the Ox, Wilshere, Coquelin, Elneny and Iwobi. And Giroud and Welbeck are decent options up front.

Monreal is solid enough that really I could only see a need for a top class centre back and a top class striker. If they had Alderweireld and Lacazette they would look scary to me.

3 defenders.

2-3 midfielders

Striker (though giroud under rated).

Loads of squad players.

Arsenals players are severely over rated for those that have achieved little in the game.

Even Sanchez who is a top player was fairly anonymous last season.

[GSC]

Think Ramsey is being heavily overrated.

Not a big fan of Koscielny personally, think he cracks easily under pressure.

[Guest]

Breaking news, Paul Pogba has said he thinks he might have a biscuit later.

[Fernando]

Bourbon or Custard Cream?

[Guest]

He hasn't said, no doubt there'll be further updates as he narrows the choice down. If he's considering having a hot drink as well then I'm sure the internet will go into meltdown.
Kardashian shows us her t!ts and f@nny again vs Pogba and the Great biscuit Adventure

[Fernando]

I wonder what his choice for biscuit if dunked is?

[nadeem2099]

Heard Pogba's a fan of the old hobknobs.

[Fernando]

Kaveh from Sky
Arsenal negotiations to sign Valencia defender Shkodran Mustafi are ongoing. Will cost about £30m, Been left out Valencia squad for their friendly tonight.

Well that's a plus side If get that done get a forward and a back up defender

Everton paying £9m not £12m for Ashley Williams

[Guest]

Heard Pogba's a fan of the old hobknobs.

Soon to be renamed Pognobs

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Think Ramsey is being heavily overrated.

Not a big fan of Koscielny personally, think he cracks easily under pressure.

Ramsey as an option in a squad is better depth than most sides in the league. Every side, I think.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Where? Because I see a very good goalkeeper, some might say still the best in the league (not I), Koscielny and Bellerin possibly get in a best Prem XI, Xhaka, Cazorla, Ramsey, Ozil, Sanchez are all fantastic players, backed up by Walcott, the Ox, Wilshere, Coquelin, Elneny and Iwobi. And Giroud and Welbeck are decent options up front.

Monreal is solid enough that really I could only see a need for a top class centre back and a top class striker. If they had Alderweireld and Lacazette they would look scary to me.

3 defenders.

2-3 midfielders

Striker (though giroud under rated).

Loads of squad players.

Arsenals players are severely over rated for those that have achieved little in the game.

Even Sanchez who is a top player was fairly anonymous last season.

Sanchez was injured. They got second last year, arguably without their most influential player for the run-in (Cazorla)

They need a bit of depth in defence, but you surely cant think this Man United team is that much better than Arsenal?

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Think Ramsey is being heavily overrated.

Not a big fan of Koscielny personally, think he cracks easily under pressure.

Ramsey as an option in a squad is better depth than most sides in the league. Every side, I think.

And I didnt even say he was that good!

[nadeem2099]

Heard Pogba's a fan of the old hobknobs.

Soon to be renamed Pognobs

With a nice helping of Hot Poglate or a Poguccinno to help swallow the bitter taste down.

[GSC]

You said he was a fantastic player

[Dolphin Ziggler]

You said he was a fantastic player

I did haha! But still, he was and is a pretty fantastic player. Hes not world class, but hes another who probably gets into 90% of teams in this league.

I feel like the other teams in the league are being vastly overrated if people think they are that much better than Arsenal

[Fernando]

As long as you don't declare him the worlds best midfielder it's fine

[Guest]

Heard Pogba's a fan of the old hobknobs.

Soon to be renamed Pognobs

With a nice helping of Hot Poglate or a Poguccinno to help swallow the bitter taste down.

Spurs manager has first dibs on that one, but I reckon Pogchester Utd will buy the rights to his name.

"Paul, what else can we possibly do for you?"

"Those compartments in trousers and coats where people keep money and keys, they must now be called Pogets"

"Leave it to us, son!"

[GSC]

I had to leave the office for that one, dammit Dave

[Guest]

There are endless pogabilities

I'm looking forward to Xmas and listening to "Fairytale of New York" by Kirsty McColl and the Pogs

[Fernando]

There are endless pogabilities

I'm looking forward to Xmas and listening to "Fairytale of New York" by Kirsty McColl and the Pogs

I wonder where that will place in the UK Pog 40

[Guest]

There are endless pogabilities

I'm looking forward to Xmas and listening to "Fairytale of New York" by Kirsty McColl and the Pogs

I wonder where that will place in the UK Pog 40

The may even bring back Top of the Pogs

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Pog Rock?

[Fernando]

He's taking over from Eric Clapton in Pog Floyd

[Guest]

Christ, we need the season to start

[Mat]

We've had a bid turned down for Slimani at Sporting. Think this is one we'll be priced out of.

[GSC]

Hull about to be sold to Chinese investors.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

I hope so, for their sake, although not for my antepost bets sake.

Slimani needs to be bought by a Prem club. Near on every side has been linked with him

[Guest]

He's got quite an impressive goal return, but at 28, and never proven himself outside of the Portuguese league, would have me slightly concerned & I bet it reflects in who eventually takes him.

[GSC]

Bony to Everton for 15m apparently

[Guest]

That will mean Lukaku to Chelsea is a certainty, no chance Bony playing second fiddle again.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

We had to wait until the end of the olympics for Calleri...except Argentina need to score 2 in 3 mins to qualify from the group, currently 1-0 down to Honduras.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

And they're out of there!

[Dolphin Ziggler]

[nadeem2099]

Got him in my ff team. Hopefully he settles in quickly and earns me some good points.

[nadeem2099]

Martin Demichelis has left Man City to join Espanyol.

[Ent]

Where? Because I see a very good goalkeeper, some might say still the best in the league (not I), Koscielny and Bellerin possibly get in a best Prem XI, Xhaka, Cazorla, Ramsey, Ozil, Sanchez are all fantastic players, backed up by Walcott, the Ox, Wilshere, Coquelin, Elneny and Iwobi. And Giroud and Welbeck are decent options up front.

Monreal is solid enough that really I could only see a need for a top class centre back and a top class striker. If they had Alderweireld and Lacazette they would look scary to me.

3 defenders.

2-3 midfielders

Striker (though giroud under rated).

Loads of squad players.

Arsenals players are severely over rated for those that have achieved little in the game.

Even Sanchez who is a top player was fairly anonymous last season.

Sanchez was injured. They got second last year, arguably without their most influential player for the run-in (Cazorla)

They need a bit of depth in defence, but you surely cant think this Man United team is that much better than Arsenal?

Sanchez started 37 games for arsenal last season, most players miss a few games injured.

Cazorla has done very well deeper but let's not pretend he's a huge difference maker.

If Uniteds new signings do well then yes I'd say they have a better team than arsenal, that is a big if though.

Arsenal essentially have a good but aging and increasingly error prone goal keeper, 1 decent defender (not top class) 2 top talents who are inconsistent, 8 of the same player in midfield (small, want to go forward, no interest in playing without ball) and giroud.

They've no chance of winning the pl and having missed out this time will be back aiming for fourth every year.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Cech probably second best keeper last year behind De Gea?

And Cazorla certainly is a difference maker, he really makes them tick and does a lot of dirty work you wouldnt expect of him from years gone by. Their fans will tell you much the same.

I think Arsenal are about as good as United, and with a decent centre back and a striker, depending on who, I would possibly say they turn a 6/5 combined XI into a 7/4 win.

[Crimey]

I'd go:

Cech

Bellerin Koscielny Smalling Monreal

Pogba Cazorla

Sanchez - - - -  Ozil - - - - Martial

Ibrahimovic

So 7-4 to Arsenal for me.  

[Dolphin Ziggler]

I'd be going

De Gea, Bellerin, Shaw, Kos, Smalling, Pogba (theyve signed him under the radar), Cazorla, Ozil, Sanchez, Martial and Ibra. But give Arsenal Lacazette and a strong centre back and I may switch two in straight away

[Hammersmith harrier]

Ibrahimovich has been outperforming Lacazette for years in Ligue 1 although that isn't anything compared to Crimey saying he'd have Cech over De Gea.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

At PSG though. And I think Lacazette will do more for Arsenal than Ibra will do for Man United...just the fact of them buying a striker

[Hammersmith harrier]

He might improve them slightly more but he's not a better player.

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