Scotland V USA 27th September

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SCOTLAND V USA
27 September 2015
KO: 14:30 BST
Elland Road, Leeds

Live on ITV

Referee: Chris Pollock
Touch judges: John Lacey, Mike Fraser
Television match official: Ben Skeen

A. Head to Head

4 Played 4
4 Won 0
0 Drawn 0
0 Lost 4

C. Teams

SCOTLAND

15 Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors) – 34 caps; 9 tries, 1 pen, 48 points
14 Sean Maitland (London Irish) – 17 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
13 Mark Bennett (Glasgow Warriors) – 10 caps; 5 tries, 25 points
12 Peter Horne (Glasgow Warriors) – 11 caps, 1 try, 1 con, 1 pen, 10 points
11 Tim Visser (Harlequins) – 21 caps; 9 tries, 45 points
10 Finn Russell (Glasgow Warriors) – 12 caps; 2 tries, 2 cons, 14 points
9 Henry Pyrgos (Glasgow Warriors) CAPTAIN – 16 caps; 4 tries, 20 points

1 Ryan Grant (Glasgow Warriors) – 24 caps
2 Ross Ford (Edinburgh Rugby) – 90 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
3 Jon Welsh (Newcastle Falcons) – 8 caps, 1 try, 5 points
4 Richie Gray (Castres) – 47 caps, 2 tries, 10 points
5 Grant Gilchrist (Edinburgh Rugby) – 11 caps, 1 try, 5 points
6 Alasdair Strokosch (Perpignan) – 46 caps, 2 tries, 10 points
7 Ryan Bloody Wilson (Glasgow Warriors) – 12 caps
8 Josh Strauss  (Glasgow Warriors) – 1 cap

16 Kevin Bryce (Glasgow Warriors) – 2 caps
17 Alasdair Dickinson (Edinburgh Rugby) – 48 caps, 2 tries, 10 points
18 Willem Nel (Edinburgh Rugby) – 4 caps
19 Tim Swinson (Glasgow Warriors) – 13 caps
20 Fraser Brown (Glasgow Warriors) – 11 caps
21 Greig Laidlaw (Gloucester) – 42 caps; 3 tries, 48 cons, 92 pens, 387 points
22 Duncan Weir (Glasgow Warriors) – 19 caps, 1 try, 6 cons, 9 pens, 1 drop, 47 points
23 Matt Scott (Edinburgh Rugby) – 30 caps, 3 tries, 15 points

USA

(Yes I know she was born in Ukraine but who cares!

1. Eric Fry
2. Phil Thiel
3. Titi Lamositele
4. Hayden Smith
5. Greg Peterson
6. Al McFarland
7. Andrew Durutalo
8. Samu Manoa

9. Mike Petri
10. AJ MacGinty
11. Blaine Scully
12. Thretton Palamo
13. Seamus Kelly
14. Takudzwa Ngwenya
15. Chris Wyles (C)

16. Zach Fenoglio
17. Olive Kilifi
18. Chris Baumann
19. Cameron Dolan
20. John Quill
21. Danny Barrett
22. Shalom Suniula
23. Folau Niua

Matt Nonu doing exactly what I said - need to do something different pounding their line!

Scotland seems rather conservative in their play. The American physicality seems to me to have thrown Scotland off their plan just a bit. Credit to the Eagles for hanging in. The American fly half is poor. But their mid-field defense is very good.

By the way, when I said take 3 points I didn't mean it....

funnyExiledScot wrote:By the way, when I said take 3 points I didn't mean it....

Funny

I'd get Ford off

Bennett down now. Please God no!!

Great defence from Dickinson there.

We're hanging on a bit here!

Thank God we've got WP Nel

RDW_Scotland wrote:I'd get Ford off

Who for? The bench is empty

tigertattie wrote:

RDW_Scotland wrote:I'd get Ford off

Who for? The bench is empty

Kevin Bryce

What a huge shift from Ford

RDW_Scotland wrote:

tigertattie wrote:

RDW_Scotland wrote:I'd get Ford off

Who for? The bench is empty

Kevin Bryce

Shows what I know eh!

Clever from Swinson in that build up.

Job done. Fingers, toes and other appendages crossed that Finn is fit for next weekend!

doctor_grey wrote:Scotland seems rather conservative in their play.  The American physicality seems to me to have thrown Scotland off their plan just a bit.  Credit to the Eagles for hanging in. The American fly half is poor.  But their mid-field defense is very good.

It shouldn't have surprised Scotland, we all knew that was coming, thats the North American game.

I think Cotter earned his money today, didn't mess about with the substitutions, he pulled the failing players off at half time, no messing around, and probably gave a rocket up the back side to the rest of them. I had it in my mind this would be the upset of the world cup and to be fair at half time it looked like that might happen, but Scotland sorted themselves out. Good win and Scotland roll onwards.

Jon done, but it showed we really don't have much strength in depth.

Grant, Welsh, Wilson, Pyrgos, Horne poor.

Dickinson, Nel, Brown, Scott made a huge difference.

Fingers crossed for Russell, but I don't think it would be a complete disaster for Weir to play next week and Russell to hopefully return for Samoa

Very useful second half. The first choice players coming on made a massive difference, and bearing in mind Hardie and Denton were outstanding against Japan and Jonny Gray was rested, we'll be a different proposition for the Boks.

RDW_Scotland wrote:Fingers crossed for Russell, but I don't think it would be a complete disaster for Weir to play next week and Russell to hopefully return for Samoa

Not sure I can agree on this, the step down is substantial. I'd much sooner have Russell playing

RDW_Scotland wrote:Jon done, but it showed we really don't have much strength in depth.

Grant, Welsh, Wilson, Pyrgos, Horne poor.

Dickinson, Nel, Brown, Scott made a huge difference.

Fingers crossed for Russell, but I don't think it would be a complete disaster for Weir to play next week and Russell to hopefully return for Samoa

We knew Scotland had little strength in their team anyway, we were already certain they had no depth. Today just proved Custier and Barkley should of been included if for nothing else than experience.

TheMildlyFranticLlama wrote:

RDW_Scotland wrote:Fingers crossed for Russell, but I don't think it would be a complete disaster for Weir to play next week and Russell to hopefully return for Samoa

Not sure I can agree on this, the step down is substantial. I'd much sooner have Russell playing

My reasoning being I can't see us beating SA unfortunately - Samoa is still likely to be the key game.

Well I'd just like to say it would have been a different story if we didnt have an unfair 4 day turnaround. Those fresh US legs made us pay in the 2nd half.

JonnyEdinburgh wrote:Well I'd just like to say it would have been a different story if we didnt have an unfair 4 day turnaround. Those fresh US legs made us pay in the 2nd half.

Japan could say the same about us last Wednesday

It is a daft schedule though. I can't see why they can't even things out more

Now the question is whether we commit our best players to the Springbok game.

Can we beat them? I'm really not sure.

What I am sure about having watched both sides is that we are a country mile better than that Samoan team.

Well there's plenty recovery time between the Boks and Samoa so we should just play full strength against both now. That said, if Russell isn't 100% fit for the Boks I'd start with Weir at 10. Habana could use a couple of long range interceptions to improve his stats.

Job done. Scotland are shaping up to be quarter finalists, a bit like Wales .

I thought Visser was good today by the way. Took a couple of good high balls and showed up well in defence. Took his chance as well. That's probably him done for this tournament but a positive contribution nonetheless.

Shifty wrote:

doctor_grey wrote:Scotland seems rather conservative in their play.  The American physicality seems to me to have thrown Scotland off their plan just a bit.  Credit to the Eagles for hanging in. The American fly half is poor.  But their mid-field defense is very good.

It shouldn't have surprised Scotland, we all knew that was coming, thats the North American game.  

I think Cotter earned his money today, didn't mess about with the substitutions, he pulled the failing players off at half time, no messing around, and probably gave a rocket up the back side to the rest of them.  I had it in my mind this would be the upset of the world cup and to be fair at half time it looked like that might happen, but Scotland sorted themselves out.  Good win and Scotland roll onwards.

Agree. Cotter did a very good job. Kept his patience and confidence in his game plan and it worled in the end. No panic. Overall well done. A nice win, comfortabl4e at the end.

Good win for Scotland in the end. Composed when USA had their purple patch and a strong comeback.

Shifty wrote:

doctor_grey wrote:Scotland seems rather conservative in their play.  The American physicality seems to me to have thrown Scotland off their plan just a bit.  Credit to the Eagles for hanging in. The American fly half is poor.  But their mid-field defense is very good.

It shouldn't have surprised Scotland, we all knew that was coming, thats the North American game.  

I think Cotter earned his money today, didn't mess about with the substitutions, he pulled the failing players off at half time, no messing around, and probably gave a rocket up the back side to the rest of them.  I had it in my mind this would be the upset of the world cup and to be fair at half time it looked like that might happen, but Scotland sorted themselves out.  Good win and Scotland roll onwards.

agreed he was very decisive . took 3 mins to pay off.

also not sure he might play visser ahead of lamont. he played pretty well got 1 try and it should have been 2 if hoggie hadnt thrown it at his laces

A quick comment about the Americans.  Although some are still amateurs, they have raised their game in this World Cup and that shows real improvement in their talent levels.  This is the best measuring stick for assessing the American game.  Scotland should have won this match on talent alone.  But the Americans showed they are a streong composed team with some real talent.  It took a patient and well coached Scotland team to hit back quickly in the second half then eventually take control and run out solid winners.  I have to believe this is a good stepping stone for the Americans.  They will, of course, have ups and downs.  But to beat a tier 1 team has to be possible for them in the not too distant future.

doctor_grey wrote:A quick comment about the Americans.  Although some are still amateurs, they have raised their game in this World Cup and that shows real improvement in their talent levels.  This is the best measuring stick for assessing the American game.  Scotland should have won this match on talent alone.  But the Americans showed they are a streong composed team with some real talent.  It took a patient and well coached Scotland team to hit back quickly in the second half then eventually take control and run out solid winners.  I have to believe this is a good stepping stone for the Americans.  They will, of course, have ups and downs.  But to beat a tier 1 team has to be possible for them in the not too distant future.

USA were excellent 1st half. They just couldn't cope when we upped our game - they were barely in the 2nd half.

Ire vs Romania is a bit dull so I'm going to do some player ratings before I go cook myself some dinner.

Stuart Hogg - 4 - terrible game. Worst since his brain fart game v Wales
Sean Maitland - 6.5 - solid enough if unspectacular. Scored a try though
Mark Bennett - 7 - good shift. Decent defence and ran good lines
Peter Horne - 3 - awful. Pointless. Go back to scotstoun
Tim Visser - 6 - see Maitland. Never came looking for work though
Finn Russell - 7 - ran a good game. Hope he heals up
Henry Pyrgos - 5 - bouff. Slow at the ruck. Bad decision making
Ryan Grant -5 - pretty anonymous. Man shamed at scrum time
Ross Ford - 7 - solid. Decent carries. Good defending. Needs to hook though
Jon Welsh - 4 - manshamed at scrums. Did nothing in the loose
Richie Gray - 6 - started coming into things in the second half. Good shift though for 80 mins
Grant Gilchrist -5 - injured early. Not his fault
Alasdair Strokosch - 6 - did what he does. Nothing in attack
Ryan Wilson - 4 - rotten. Not a patch on brown who is supposed to be a hooker now
Josh Strauss - 5 - very quiet. Struggling at international lvl so far


Kevin Bryce - 5 - not on long enough to do much
Alasdair Dickinson - 8 - fixed the scrums. Worked in the loose. Chased more kicks than Maitland
Willem Nel - 9 - see Dickerson, scored a try too
Tim Swinson - 6 - unspectacular
Fraser Brown - 8 - tackled and carried well. Best 'back rower' by a country mile
Greig Laidlaw - 6 - this what laidlaw does.
Duncan Weir - 6 - played ok when he came on. Scored a try
Matt Scott - 8 - all hail the other messiah. Surely showed he's superior to Horne. Scored a try.

I know I'm biased, but Edinburgh, with help from Fraser Brown, totally turned the game and saved Scotland's blushes

Bit harsh of Hogg - he made a couple of high profile errors but also split the defence open, took his high balls well and kicked well. He was actually made MOTM!

Id give him 6.5

RDW_Scotland wrote:Bit harsh of Hogg - he made a couple of high profile errors but also split the defence open, took his high balls well and kicked well. He was actually made MOTM!

Id give him 6.5

agreed must have been watching another game, the scores are all over the place if u ask me

strauss was a 7. 11 tackles none missed 2nd highest carries.

cotter gets a 9 for the subs,

RDW_Scotland wrote:

doctor_grey wrote:A quick comment about the Americans.  Although some are still amateurs, they have raised their game in this World Cup and that shows real improvement in their talent levels.  This is the best measuring stick for assessing the American game.  Scotland should have won this match on talent alone.  But the Americans showed they are a streong composed team with some real talent.  It took a patient and well coached Scotland team to hit back quickly in the second half then eventually take control and run out solid winners.  I have to believe this is a good stepping stone for the Americans.  They will, of course, have ups and downs.  But to beat a tier 1 team has to be possible for them in the not too distant future.

USA were excellent 1st half. They just couldn't cope when we upped our game - they were barely in the 2nd half.

Agree. And to be up at halftime is a great improvement for them. In the past, they would have been down by two or three scores by halftime.

Who knows what the Springboks have in their tank now, especially with Jean De Villiers out injured. An opportunity for Scotland?????

tigertattie wrote:Ire vs Romania is a bit dull so I'm going to do some player ratings before I go cook myself some dinner.

Stuart Hogg - 4 - terrible game. Worst since his brain fart game v Wales
Sean Maitland - 6.5 - solid enough if unspectacular. Scored a try though
Mark Bennett - 7 - good shift. Decent defence and ran good lines
Peter Horne - 3 - awful. Pointless. Go back to scotstoun
Tim Visser - 6 - see Maitland. Never came looking for work though
Finn Russell - 7 - ran a good game. Hope he heals up
Henry Pyrgos - 5 - bouff. Slow at the ruck. Bad decision making
Ryan Grant -5 - pretty anonymous. Man shamed at scrum time
Ross Ford - 7 - solid. Decent carries. Good defending. Needs to hook though
Jon Welsh - 4 - manshamed at scrums.  Did nothing in the loose
Richie Gray - 6 - started coming into things in the second half. Good shift though for 80 mins
Grant Gilchrist -5 - injured early. Not his fault
Alasdair Strokosch - 6 - did what he does. Nothing in attack
Ryan Wilson - 4 - rotten. Not a patch on brown who is supposed to be a hooker now
Josh Strauss - 5 - very quiet. Struggling at international lvl so far


Kevin Bryce - 5 - not on long enough to do much
Alasdair Dickinson - 8 - fixed the scrums. Worked in the loose. Chased more kicks than Maitland
Willem Nel - 9 - see Dickerson, scored a try too
Tim Swinson - 6 - unspectacular
Fraser Brown - 8 - tackled and carried well. Best 'back rower' by a country mile
Greig Laidlaw - 6 - this what laidlaw does.
Duncan Weir - 6 - played ok when he came on. Scored a try
Matt Scott - 8 - all hail the other messiah. Surely showed he's superior to Horne. Scored a try.

I know I'm biased, but Edinburgh, with help from Fraser Brown, totally turned the game and saved Scotland's blushes

That's not an assessment of the match; it's a totally one-eyed disregard of what happened! You did actually watch the game, did you?

RDW_Scotland wrote:Bit harsh of Hogg - he made a couple of high profile errors but also split the defence open, took his high balls well and kicked well. He was actually made MOTM!

Id give him 6.5

It's all well and good splitting open defences but if you can't pass properly then it's a failure. I thought Hogg was v poor today, made a lot of school boy errors.

Definitely a game of two halfs today.
First half we were shockingly bad. 2nd half was a big improvement from the majority of the team.
The main area we failed in the first half was the back row. There was no go forward from them. Very little ball carrying.
The breakdown America won easily as wilson was far too slow to be able to compete.
We really struggled without a natural 7. Why on earth cotter picked wilson and strokosh in the squad is beyond me.
Ford had a very good shift, one of the best I've seen for a while. Dickinson and nel made a big difference at the scrum and also in open play. Both carried v well and hit the rucks hard.
Scott also made a big difference with some great lines being run.

Hopefully Russell and gilchrist aren't serious injuries and will be fit for South Africa.
I would play the full strength team next week. The South Africa game is definitely winnable.

doctor_grey wrote:

RDW_Scotland wrote:

doctor_grey wrote:A quick comment about the Americans.  Although some are still amateurs, they have raised their game in this World Cup and that shows real improvement in their talent levels.  This is the best measuring stick for assessing the American game.  Scotland should have won this match on talent alone.  But the Americans showed they are a streong composed team with some real talent.  It took a patient and well coached Scotland team to hit back quickly in the second half then eventually take control and run out solid winners.  I have to believe this is a good stepping stone for the Americans.  They will, of course, have ups and downs.  But to beat a tier 1 team has to be possible for them in the not too distant future.

USA were excellent 1st half. They just couldn't cope when we upped our game - they were barely in the 2nd half.

Agree.  And to be up at halftime is a great improvement for them.  In the past, they would have been down by two or three scores by halftime.  

Who knows what the Springboks have in their tank now, especially with Jean De Villiers out injured.  An opportunity for Scotland?????

De Allande and Kriel are far more dangerous I think - I'd rather be facing De Villiers!

Majestic83 wrote:Definitely a game of two halfs today.
First half we were shockingly bad. 2nd half was a big improvement from the majority of the team.
The main area we failed in the first half was the back row. There was no go forward from them. Very little ball carrying.
The breakdown America won easily as wilson was far too slow to be able to compete.
We really struggled without a natural 7. Why on earth cotter picked wilson and strokosh in the squad is beyond me.
Ford had a very good shift, one of the best I've seen for a while. Dickinson and nel made a big difference at the scrum and also in open play. Both carried v well and hit the rucks hard.
Scott also made a big difference with some great lines being run.

Hopefully Russell and gilchrist aren't serious injuries and will be fit for South Africa.
I would play the full strength team next week. The South Africa game is definitely winnable.

Agreed - those selections are looking completely unfathomable now. Confirmed our worst fears!

RDW_Scotland wrote:

Majestic83 wrote:Definitely a game of two halfs today.
First half we were shockingly bad. 2nd half was a big improvement from the majority of the team.
The main area we failed in the first half was the back row. There was no go forward from them. Very little ball carrying.
The breakdown America won easily as wilson was far too slow to be able to compete.
We really struggled without a natural 7. Why on earth cotter picked wilson and strokosh in the squad is beyond me.
Ford had a very good shift, one of the best I've seen for a while. Dickinson and nel made a big difference at the scrum and also in open play. Both carried v well and hit the rucks hard.
Scott also made a big difference with some great lines being run.

Hopefully Russell and gilchrist aren't serious injuries and will be fit for South Africa.
I would play the full strength team next week. The South Africa game is definitely winnable.

Agreed - those selections are looking completely unfathomable now. Confirmed our worst fears!

Neither of them offer anything positive to Scotland's performance. It will have an effect on the rest of the team as they will know they aren't up to scratch.
The rest of the squad he picked is good, it's just that back row selection that's way off, for cotter being an ex back row you'd think he'd be more clued up.

We could have had Barclay and Harley in the squad as quality alternatives. What a waste. I hope that Cotter learns from these selection mistakes.

Congrats Scotland. Was worried for you at one point but your class showed there in the second half. Job done!

Majestic83 wrote:

RDW_Scotland wrote:

Majestic83 wrote:Definitely a game of two halfs today.
First half we were shockingly bad. 2nd half was a big improvement from the majority of the team.
The main area we failed in the first half was the back row. There was no go forward from them. Very little ball carrying.
The breakdown America won easily as wilson was far too slow to be able to compete.
We really struggled without a natural 7. Why on earth cotter picked wilson and strokosh in the squad is beyond me.
Ford had a very good shift, one of the best I've seen for a while. Dickinson and nel made a big difference at the scrum and also in open play. Both carried v well and hit the rucks hard.
Scott also made a big difference with some great lines being run.

Hopefully Russell and gilchrist aren't serious injuries and will be fit for South Africa.
I would play the full strength team next week. The South Africa game is definitely winnable.

Agreed - those selections are looking completely unfathomable now. Confirmed our worst fears!

Neither of them offer anything positive to Scotland's performance. It will have an effect on the rest of the team as they will know they aren't up to scratch.
The rest of the squad he picked is good, it's just that back row selection that's way off, for cotter being an ex back row you'd think he'd be more clued up.

On the plus side at worst Wilson will only feature on the bench going forward, do our best back row is good. The problem comes if there are injuries.

I'd rather Fraser Brown in the back row than any of those two!

I thought Strokosch played well today; Harley, Barclay or Brown would have been better but nevertheless he wasn't too bad. I may be wrong but I think he made more tackles than anyone else
The Boks have real injury troubles but we need to bear in mind that this game is still very much do or die for them, if we win we aw through, and if Japan beat Samoa they could be on three wins as well so it is going to be an immensely brutal match and if we pull it off it'll be one of Scotland's greatest ever wins. That said Samoa haven't looked dangerous at all so far, our best possible result would be to top the group and face Wales in the quarters.

Well....

All my mocking of Frodo the Glacial has returned to bite me on the bum.

I'm not referring to his good showing today, though I think if he'd played first half and Henners second the game would have played out pretty much the same, but instead to something much more deeply unsettling.

As the cameras zoomed in for a close up of Frodo preparing for his last conversion MrsPip wandered into the living room,

"He's rather good looking for a rugby player"

"Who? Frodo?"

"I don't care what you call him: he's a bit of alright."




P.S. Doc Grey, as the kids say, "Your mum".

I only saw the first half live but have now seen the second half on the i-player gizmo.
It confirmed that Welsh is honking at international level. Contrary to what quite a few folk have said, I though Ryan Wilson did ok. The backrow did not work well as a unit, though hence why the US won so many turnover. Pyrgos was ok but Laidlaw (again) brought a bit of reassurance to a team that could have otherwise panicked - well by that, I mean he was slower than Pyrgos which stopped any harem-scarem stuff.
We have down a 180 degree turn. Until recently, our forwards carried the backs but now, with our toils in the scrum and defending the rolling maul, the backs need to wave their magic to keep us in the game. Odd.

I'm in the process of re-watching it and from some of the player ratings on here either me or all of you are on drugs.

I think we all agree everyone in the first half was either rank or average.

In the second half I would rate

Good - Dickinson, Nel, Swinson, Strauss, Brown, Laidlaw, Scott and Hogg
Decent - Ford, Gray, Russell, Horne, Bennett, Visser and Maitland

I thought Swinson and Strauss were good. The first 3 tries all came off the back of yards made by those 2 in midfield. The second one was helped by Strauss literally picking up Fraser Brown who was carrying the ball and carrying him 5yds over the gainline.

I'm starting to get annoyed by Richie Gray. He gave away at least half of our penalties today and seems incapable of clearing out at rucks. Now that he has retired from carrying the ball, what else is he there for?

I do agree with the stuff on Stroker and Wilson though. It says something that our second string hooker is a better back rower than both of them

tigertattie wrote:Ire vs Romania is a bit dull so I'm going to do some player ratings before I go cook myself some dinner.

Stuart Hogg - 4 - terrible game. Worst since his brain fart game v Wales
Sean Maitland - 6.5 - solid enough if unspectacular. Scored a try though
Mark Bennett - 7 - good shift. Decent defence and ran good lines
Peter Horne - 3 - awful. Pointless. Go back to scotstoun
Tim Visser - 6 - see Maitland. Never came looking for work though
Finn Russell - 7 - ran a good game. Hope he heals up
Henry Pyrgos - 5 - bouff. Slow at the ruck. Bad decision making
Ryan Grant -5 - pretty anonymous. Man shamed at scrum time
Ross Ford - 7 - solid. Decent carries. Good defending. Needs to hook though
Jon Welsh - 4 - manshamed at scrums.  Did nothing in the loose
Richie Gray - 6 - started coming into things in the second half. Good shift though for 80 mins
Grant Gilchrist -5 - injured early. Not his fault
Alasdair Strokosch - 6 - did what he does. Nothing in attack
Ryan Wilson - 4 - rotten. Not a patch on brown who is supposed to be a hooker now
Josh Strauss - 5 - very quiet. Struggling at international lvl so far


Kevin Bryce - 5 - not on long enough to do much
Alasdair Dickinson - 8 - fixed the scrums. Worked in the loose. Chased more kicks than Maitland
Willem Nel - 9 - see Dickerson, scored a try too
Tim Swinson - 6 - unspectacular
Fraser Brown - 8 - tackled and carried well. Best 'back rower' by a country mile
Greig Laidlaw - 6 - this what laidlaw does.
Duncan Weir - 6 - played ok when he came on. Scored a try
Matt Scott - 8 - all hail the other messiah. Surely showed he's superior to Horne. Scored a try.

I know I'm biased, but Edinburgh, with help from Fraser Brown, totally turned the game and saved Scotland's blushes

T!t !