Hearn Meets Haymon to Discuss the Future of Boxing: Satan's Spawn

It's troubling to say the least.

Not since the days of Don King and Arum working together have I been so concerned for the future of boxing.

With these two we could be seeing all sorts of god awful matchups. Why? Well, here are some of my most major concerns:

1. Hearn wants to move into the American market. What this means is he wants to put the Rose's and Mitchell's of this world on awful cards stateside against guys that will club them half dead -- and he'll want to sell it as a big, meaningful fight. No one will care about these 90/10 certainties.

2. Haymon is in a war with GBP and TR. This means the likelihood of him matching his stable against anyone we've heard of is slimmer than a super models waistline.

3. Haymon and Hearn want leverage, not to establish top cards in prime areas of the States. This relationship is business driven, not sport driven. They'll work together in the sense that they'll plan how to manipulate big days for small fights: pitiful.

4. Al Haymon gave us Salka v Garcia -- Hearn gave us the Magnificent Seven -- what are these two capable of?

5. Neither of them know how to match make.

Thoughts appreciated posters.

I think its good if they work together after all i want to see Brook v Khan etc so i think its good

who else can they deliver?

Not sure what the problem is emore? Two promoters working together means we don't have these silly standoffs of fighters not fighting because who they're promoted by.

Thought magnificent 7 was a warren card.

Same here ENT, wasn't the magnificent 7 the last big one he did on sky (sure Enzo Mac was on it???)

Second that.

Pretty sure I went to a Mag-7 Warren card at Wembley Arena a few years back. Clev 'headling' and I think Kevin Mitchell (when he was decent) was on the undercard.

Just checked, this was the card:

Wembley Arena, Wembley, London, United Kingdom view

Kevin Mitchell W Ignacio Mendoza KO 2 12x3


Nathan Cleverly W Antonio Brancalion TKO 5 12x3


Dereck Chisora W Carl Baker TKO 2 10x3


Jamie Cox W Michael Frontin PTS 8 8x3


James DeGale W Matthew Barr TKO 2 6x3


Frankie Gavin W Peter McDonagh PTS 6 6x3


Vinny Mitchell L Jon Baguley TKO 4 6x3


Liam Walsh W Sid Razak TKO 4 6x3


Ryan Walsh W Ian Bailey PTS 6 6x3


Michael Walsh W Najah Ali TKO 3 6x3


George Michael Carman W Matt Seawright PTS 4 4x3

As if by magic, I've taken a bit of a disliking to Eddie Hearn, I hope it passes because for the most part, I thought he was alright. With the Bellew-Cleverly card being so terrible, he has kind of shown what his priorities are...

I don't knock anyone for trying to make money but it seems Eddie is as hard-wired to money grabbing as Frank Warren is, which is sad

Haha fish    eyes automatically turns into Frank Warren, genius!

It was the Darren Barker card, something Seven, look for it, may not have been magnificent but it was something or other.

Them working is a good thing i think

no it isn't Haymon is the devil.

In the next 2 years De La Hoya will be finished.

He won't win his case with Schaffer who will soon become CEO of Matchroom Sports.

Eddie will side with Al Haymon and the DARK SIDE of the force will establish itself as THEE power in boxing

Only 1 man will stand in their way....

BOB ARUM.

There's a case with dracula?

Haymon is a divisive character here in North America. 2013 he gave fans some good fights, but in 2014 he has fed them utter rubbish. Truly awful fights like Garcia v Salka have been far too common. Some say he his running out his Showtime commitments until he can start is deal on American network TV. others say he was terrible at HBO and will be terrible for the sport in the future. He is adored by his fighters as he maximizes their purses and takes a lower commission. He has blocked several attempts by Jay Z's company, who offered Thurman $5 million for three fights and were still turned down. You think boxing is a muddle in the UK, it is an utter mess in the states. Oscar is the one promoter who is willing to work with one and all, but a lot of his fighters aren't even contracted with Goldenboy and have management contracts with Haymon. We will need to see what 2015 brings there. What this means with Hearn, I don't know. He has obviously decided Haymon is the future (see yesterday's IFLTV interview). Hopefully it just means he matches his fighters with theirs more.

The crud ones no one cares about fighting his elite stable, great.

King and Arum have brought us some brilliant fights...

Said it before unless you are a ruthless S.O.B then Promoting isn't for you...

You have to be tough because you spend 99% of the time negotiating..

All about the deal....Everything thing else like the Computer say's in ALIEN is a secondary priority..

TRUSS, no offence, but we know this.

Haern should be meeting with Haymon. Whether we like it or not Haymon looks like he will be a player for some time now, particularly as Arum and King cannot go on forever (have we been saying that for 20 years?) For too long as British fight fans we have moaned our fighters not leaving these shores or fighting the top names from overseas, anything that ensures Hearn will buck this trend moving forward is welcome in my eyes.

Hearn needs to work on his match making and 50/50 fights long before he hops it to the US to chase the dream. He is still learning.

DDG - Promoters have their own teams of matchmakers, Hearn isn't sat there in his office as we speak thinking to himself "Hmmmmm, who shall I put Burns up against next... hang on, let me check boxrec rankings!"

200k buys for Clev-Bell..

No he's just graduated !;

Captain he is always saying that in interviews, so, i fear you are wrong.

200k for Mr Winklechops???

Chris Eubank said he son was the second coming of Leonard! FFS man, don't believe everything anyone says!

I can 100% guarantee he has matchmakers

and he needs to fire them, and stop telling them to get his guys PR profile raised.

Saturday 6 December 2014

York Hall, Bethnal Green, London, United Kingdom
commission: British Boxing Board of Control
promoter: Eddie Hearn (Matchroom Boxing)
matchmaker: Neil Bowers
television: United Kingdom SKY

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Pulled from boxrec via the world of googling "matchroom matchmaker".

His guys have done a pretty good job to be fair. 200k still bought it, me included. He's got title fights for boxers who you would've thought such a shot at a big name would be out of reach... obviously doing something right now he's the dominant force this side of the pond.

he's turning into something he is not. someone i don't know. I loved Eddie once.

Your problems are....1. You get too invested....2. Everything is always black and white...

Sometimes you've got to just go with the breeze..

Best advice my old Pops gave me...If you can't do anything about a problem don't waste time thinking about it !!

I like that advice, and you strike many true chords Truss.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Sometimes you've got to just go with the breeze..

Tell me about it, went crosswind wazzing on the walk home from the pub in the park the other night and wazzed all over myself.

Hearn has bought us far better cards/fights than fish-eyes has done in recent years, hence why he's the #1 promoter on these shores nowadays.

@ The mods - why don't we do a Q&A with him? I'll get my questions in now:

1) Have you indeed made roughlove to an Irishman recently going by the name of Strongback? He holds some sort of grudge against you

2) Fancy a beer sometime?

3) Ever thought about holding weekly shows (for a 12 week season or so) that are on terrestrial i.e. "Thursday Night Showdowns - TNS" to help promote up and coming young fighters?

I'd ask him this:

Eddie, why have you turned into a money grubbing ****** all of a sudden, divorce pending or something?

Eddie's doing what all rich kids do.

Three years ago Eddie said he needed time to learn. Now he's selling punnets of strawberries on the street like a true barrow boy. Give it two more years and the transformation into fully fledged crook will be complete.

What's the alternative to Hearn?

Would people rather we revert back to the days when Frank Warren had a monopoly on top British fighters?

Did people prefer the endless stream of mismatches? Like seeing Khan or Cleverly or Degale fight a tomato can whose brand you've never once heard of in your life?

Yes. Surprise, surprise, Hearn is in it primarily for the same thing as any promoter. But at least he delivers on some decent matches that are actually half intriguing to watch.

Hearn is doing great things for boxing in this country, at the end of the day he's a businessman but he knows how to play the game.

A promoter who puts together a huge fight everyone wanted to see in the Groves/Froch rematch then made it readily available and affordable for 80,000 fans is definitely the spawn of satan.