How to score a Carl Froch fight

Just to lighten the mood a little taken from 'chuckhookboxing''


How to score a Carl Froch fight
by
dftaylor

The British Boxing Board of Control (BBBoC) have noticed a level of controversy around the stoppage and scoring of this weekend’s Carl Froch-George Groves IBF title fight at super-middleweight (12st).

While we understand that Mr Groves and his team are disappointed with the conclusion of the fight and the scores the judges had recorded, we wanted to put our criteria on the record. It is fair to say that a Carl Froch fight needs to be scored differently for a number of reasons:

1. Carl Froch is a “warrior”

2. Carl Froch has an “iron chin”

3. Carl Froch is an “international superstar”

4. Carl Froch is the “champion” and any opponent must “take it” from him

We ask that referees and judges keep these issues in mind during a fight. We accept that for the casual hardcore fan however, these reasons may cause confusion as to the specific assessment our judges make during Mr Froch’s fights. To support you, and to offset any suggestion of impropriety (as the Board is and always will be above reproach or suspicion) we have compiled this quick guide to how to score a Carl Froch fight.

The criteria

1. If Carl lands more punches in the round, or the more damaging punches, he wins the round 10-9

2. If Carl’s opponent lands more punches, or the more damaging punches, Carl wins the round because “that’s how he fights”

3. If Carl is boxing on the back foot behind his jab, this is an example of his versatility and he wins the round

4. If Carl’s opponent is boxing on the back foot behind their jab, this is an example of them running away from Carl’s power, and Carl wins the round

5. If Carl punches legal, but non-scoring, areas like arms and gloves, Carl wins the round because he’s doing damage that will “pay off down the stretch”

6. If the opponent punches legal, but non-scoring, areas like arms and gloves, this is because Froch’s defence is “underrated” and his opponent is wearing himself out

7. If Carl knocks his opponent down, he wins the round 10-8 and gains additional “warrior” points* to spend throughout the remainder of the fight

8. If the opponent knocks Carl down and he gets up, this is down to his “iron chin” and Carl receives “warrior” points to spend throughout the remainder of the fight. He loses the round 10-8, but gains additional “iron chin” points. These points can be used to halt the referee from stopping the fight in your opponent’s favour – even if you have taken a career-altering beating.

Using these criteria, you can see it was correct that there was only a two-point margin in Mr Groves favour. It also explains why Howard Foster opted to stop the fight, since the amount of “iron chin” and “warrior points” Mr Froch had accumulated during the prior eight rounds left too large a gap for Mr Groves to overcome. It was the right thing to do because, as you know, the Board’s paramount concern is fighter safety.

We hope this helps with any further discussions you may engage in on this topic.

Yours,

The Board

*”Warrior” points are a relatively new addition to the BBBoC’s scoring criteria and deserve some clarification. We created them to ensure that fighters like Carl Froch, who fight with scant regard for defence or their health, have the opportunity to win fights against more skilled opposition.

For every clean shot or knockdown Carl suffers, or wild swing that he misses, he gets additional credit. He can then use these points to even up the scorecards, overlooking that unfair “defence” criterion, or in some cases encourage the referee to halt the fight in his favour when he lands any series of punches. The opponent’s condition is not a valid concern at this stage, since “warrior” points overrule any concerns about “fitness to continue”

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The funny (or unfunny) thing about this is that it is not exactly a million miles from the truth.

Froch was allowed the chance to carry on fighting because of his rep, and Groves stopped because if his.

Surely though, that's true of most decisions? Ali shouldn't have been allowed to get smacked around for so long against Holmes. What's the bet the ref had it in the back of his mind that he was reffing Ali?

Very good   and very strangely close to the true to a certain degree

Great Post

Iron Chin points....PMSL

hahahaha - brilliant!

That was class

Think there's a few mistakes and omissions:

8. A) Carl doesn't get knocked down, he 'goes to ground'. This is what warriors do in battle. This is also a symbolic gesture of taking his opponent into the trenches. Most opponents aren't man enough to 'go to ground' with Carl. As such the round is 10-8 to froch.

8. b) Should carl injure himself in this brave and dangerous  'going to ground' manouvre, and be unable to continue, the referee will award the fight to froch and may, at his discretion, also shoot the opponent for cowardice in battle.

9. Should Carl's opponent seek to gain an unfair advantage by having bad breath or Inappropriately ginger hair, the referee may stop the contest at any time.

Dftaylor sucks on David Hayes chocolate salty balls.

Froch doesn not get knocked down, it's considered a "tactical withdrawl" and as such he earns extra Warrior points for it.

Come on lads, stop this. You're upsetting Tunes.

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Come on lads, stop this. You're upsetting Tunes.

How does the second sentence encourage us to comply with the first?

Good point Dave.

Just trying to balance the universe here, gimme a break.

Fair enough, Tunes is trying to balance the opinions of the nation by convincing six million people (one by one) that the stoppage was fair.

To be fair, I think he's still trying to convince himself it was fair.

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:To be fair, I think he's still trying to convince himself it was fair.

It isn't working. My dog puts forward better arguments.

The fight couldnt have been more unfair on Groves. The only way he can win is if he stops Froch.

As soon as he takes any decent punishesment, the ref will stop it and if he outboxes Froch the judges find a way for him to lose. Plus Froch is given licence to foul without consequence. Froch might have won anyway. Sadly the most dramatic element of the fight was robbed. But I dont know how anyone can think Groves got a fair shake in this from start to finish. There are people out there claiming he got lucky....

Lumbering_Jack wrote:

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:To be fair, I think he's still trying to convince himself it was fair.

It isn't working. My dog puts forward better arguments.

To be fair, it probably watched the fight from your house rather than from up Froch's bottom

Missed a couple
If Carl hits his opponent with his elbows, that's the same as a legal punch.

Every 2 punches that Carl throws which narrowly miss, count as 1 power punch landed.

If carl doesnt land cleanly, he did land cleanly and your tv is on the blink

Warrior Points are transferable...but not between fighters. They are however transferable between a fighter and referee who may use aforementioned Warrior points to absolve himself of making a reasoned decison and simply ending the fight in favour of the person* who gave him Warrior points.

*Please note only Carl Froch is allowed Warrior Points

Eyetoldyouso wrote:Missed a couple
If Carl hits his opponent with his elbows, that's the same as a legal punch.

Every 2 punches that Carl throws which narrowly miss, count as 1 power punch landed.

When he hits you with his elbows, they are known famously by Jim Watt as "Ahhhhrrrruuuummm punches!!!"

Do warrior points carry over to the next fight?

Can Froch claim a rematch victory over Groves now and save everybody the bother of having to watch the inevitable late stoppage?

Haha quality guys!

Warriors Points can also be used retrospectively

Froch's record now reads "Ward/Froch (Froch wins by KO in Rd 1, 2 and 3)"

Theres a few I'd like to add

If Carl approaches his corner and looks tired it means he has expended more energy than his opponent because he is such a warrior and nobody can work harder than Carl Froch so this makes it a round to Froch

Carl keeps a diary of how he trained for the fight, this gives him additional points in the fight to draw upon his "exceptional" preparation. He can spend these points at any time.

When throwing punches, if Carl connects with a jab it is classified as a power punch, if he throws an uppercut it is always deemed to have landed and if his opponent lands a power punch judges are to follow the mathematical rule that 9 are required to land before it is classified as a jab.

The referee may stop the fight at any time and for any reason as long as it is in favour of Carl Froch.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

If Carl Froch hits the canvas, he has not been knocked down.... He has just taken the fight into the TRENCHES!!

SugarWarrior wrote:If Carl Froch hits the canvas, he has not been knocked down.... He has just taken the fight into the TRENCHES!!

     

Cracking thread  

Have the decency to laugh at my original comments mm8, as well as the plagiarised one.

Like carl 'the cobblers' froch I have a fragile ego and need constant reassurance of my greatness. I need to feel the love. I need hug points. 

Appologies Milky - didn't see your thread.....seems like taking it to the trenches was an obvious one, but that's what warriors do!!!

When Carl throws a "bomb" its so fast and powerful, he Quantum Leaps into the past into the body of THE ULTIMATE WARRIOR and is faced with the task of coming from behind on normal points against Hulk Hogan...he makes up the deficit by using his Warrior Points rebate from the Jermain Taylor fight added to the normal points he has to win via steel chair to the side of the Hulksters head.

If Carl Frochs loses a Fight - the winners name is now carl froch

If in the build up to a Carl Froch fight an opponent has the audacity to say that they think they can beat 'The International Superstar'....then the referee can stop the fight at anytime due to the challenger being 'disrespectful and cheeky to a great warrior'!!

Carl Froch has just stated that he likes Evander Holyfield's shorts that had the word "WARRIOR" emblazoned on then. Froch claims that as Holyfield was called "The Real Deal" he was therefore unworthy of the "WARRIOR" tag and has put a bid in to claim any "Warrior points" that these shorts may have entitled Holyfield to.

***Breaking News***

Mr Carl Froch, the independant adjudicator on the "Evander Holyfield Warrior shorts" claims panel has found overwhelming in favour of Carl Froch. It's appears Carl's claim was won by 57 votes to nil despite Mr Froch being the only person on the panel.

SugarWarrior wrote:Appologies Milky - didn't see your thread.....seems like taking it to the trenches was an obvious one, but that's what warriors do!!!

Only obvious to comic geniuses, sugar warrior!

I do the same thing all the time, not offended, just thought I'd get frochlike needy on a froch p*ss take thread.

Mere mortals may observe, but never comment on a Carl Froch fight as they are not 'warriors and have never been in battle in the ring'!!

JabMachineMK2 wrote:
When throwing punches, if Carl connects with a jab it is classified as a power punch, if he throws an uppercut it is always deemed to have landed and if his opponent lands a power punch judges are to follow the mathematical rule that 9 are required to land before it is classified as a jab.

Scary thing is this is actually how Tunes sees it.......

Carl Froch Facts:

1. Jesus walked on water, Carl Froch swims through land

2. Carl Froch can win a game of Connect 4 in three moves

3. The original title for Alien vs. Predator was Alien and Predator vs Carl Froch

In a Carl Froch fight: the referee must be ready to stop the fight at any time as Carl Froch's next punch could be THE ONE that ends his opponents career!!!

The most important rule about Carl Froch is that you can not speak about Carl Froch.

The second rule is not to talk about him.

Carl Froch can slam a revolving door

Carl Froch once punched a man in his soul

Someone should send the link to this thread to George Groves. I'm sure he'd enjoy it. Funny as it is, it's quite accurate.

The bogey man sleeps with the light on because he's afraid that Carl Froch is under his bed.

1) If Froch gets dropped, he is actually suckering his opponent into the trenches +1 Warrior pts

2) if Froch's opponent gets dropped, the poor soul can be declared defeated, due to a trench drowning (+2 Warrior points for Carl if he dropped his opponent after he was dropped, as this means Carl successfully suckered the man into the the trenches)

SugarWarrior wrote:In a Carl Froch fight: the referee must be ready to stop the fight at any time as Carl Froch's next punch could be THE ONE that ends his opponents career!!!

 

Carl Froch earns extra Warrior points every time he mentions the word "Warrior" his current toal stands at 8474763638493837483938, I have no idea how may he's accumlated prior to today but they'll be added to the total