Klitschko vs Povetkin : Is a shock on the cards?

by **Union Cane** Mon 30 Sep 2013, 3:04 pm

First topic message reminder :

I'm surprised that there isn't more excitement around this, after all it is the biggest and some would say most competitive heavyweight title fight in years.

Ordinarily I would say Wlad walks it; carries Povetkin to the second half then dispatches him for KO number 52.

However, I have an inkling that this could be different.

Povetkin's management have paid a hell of a lot to put this fight on in Moscow. Wlad is the away fighter for once, and no doubt there will be several types of shenanigan going on to try to unsettle the champ beforehand.

There are alleged links between Povetkin's backers and the Russian Mafiya. Are judges Gimla, Feldman and Verbeke beyond their influence? There have been some crazy scorecards handed in recently, so who knows. "But surely it won't go to the cards" I hear you cry.

Well, Wlad is not an inside fighter, we all know this. Will referee Luis Pabon take a dimmer than usual view of any holding by the champion? Warnings perhaps? Docked points? Will they try all they can to rattle Wlad and throw him off his stride?

It is all conjecture of course, but they surely haven't put up $23,000,000 to see their boy get pancaked.

I could be totally wrong, but I feel Wlad will need a knockout to get a draw.

by monty junior Fri 04 Oct 2013, 2:37 pm

Wlad weighed in at 241 pounds, whilst Povetkin as usual look's a bit fleshy at 225.

Usual moronic pre fight predictions from Atlas and Witherspoon predicting Povetkin to win by KO.

Of course the same Mr Atlas said before they fought Derrick Jefferson was better than Klitschko Rolling Eyes

by monty junior Fri 04 Oct 2013, 2:40 pm

hazharrison wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
hazharrison wrote:
Scottrf wrote:Fury wouldn't last a round against Wlad.
Ah those famed Klitschko first round knockouts.
He hasn't fought Fury.
If Tony Thompson terrified Wladimir, don't expect me to believe Fury wouldn't. He'd be even cagier than usual.

What is your proof of Tony featherduster Thompson terrified Wladimir egg

quit with hating the champ. Terrified him so much he got put to sleep twice?!

by monty junior Fri 04 Oct 2013, 2:42 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Povetkin looks like a roly poly white slob with zero skill.........and he's the best opponent out there.......

Bruno ko 2 Povetkin................For me which says it all about the Klits and their reigns......

Wish we had superstar's like Leon Spinks and Shannon Briggs around these days.

by catchweight Fri 04 Oct 2013, 2:49 pm

Briggs is still doing the rounds. Might be Wlads next opponent?

by catchweight Fri 04 Oct 2013, 2:53 pm

I can feel Witherspoons pain when he talks about the heavyweights nowadays. He would have dominated this group.

by monty junior Fri 04 Oct 2013, 2:53 pm

Has he left the hospital yet?

by catchweight Fri 04 Oct 2013, 2:57 pm

Would that stop him? I think Wlads last opponent was a cancer victim.

by Guest Fri 04 Oct 2013, 2:58 pm

I can see it now, "Wlad ducks Diabetics, will only consider Cancer"

by Scottrf Fri 04 Oct 2013, 2:58 pm

catchweight wrote:Would that stop him? I think Wlads last opponent was a cancer victim.

Classy.

by catchweight Fri 04 Oct 2013, 3:00 pm

How so?

by Guest Fri 04 Oct 2013, 3:03 pm

Ignore Scott he's looking at the post as anti-Wlad as opposed to being pro-Tim

by Scottrf Fri 04 Oct 2013, 3:04 pm

Points scoring with that, really?

by catchweight Fri 04 Oct 2013, 3:05 pm

By pointing out a fact?

by monty junior Fri 04 Oct 2013, 3:05 pm

It's just so boring to hear these once good fighters constantly blabber on about how rubbish everyone is now and how great it was in their day. Sure there was a deeper pool of heavyweight's but boxing has moved on, guys are bigger stronger and fight in a different way, especially in the HW division with European dominance. Wish they would just let it go, take the credit they deserve for the fights they took part in back in the 80s and give credit to the current best which are the Klitschko's. Was listening to an interview with Earnie Shavers the other day saying nobody would last more than 3 rounds with guys from the 70s, sure plenty would get knocked out if you stand still and don't move but plenty of those guy's have flaws as well, Foreman and Shavers had terrible stamina whilst the latter also had a jaw that would embarrass even Jeremy Williams, Ali had very little punch power, Frazier could do little but throw an excellent left hook. So whilst we maybe lack the great brawls or 50/50 HW title fights of 25+ year's ago these guy's should just suck it up and give credit to guy's who represent the sport well as champion's. They may be not be as exciting but at least they respect the sport enough to avoid coming in 2 stone overweight with a drug addiction.

by Guest Fri 04 Oct 2013, 3:06 pm

Or just pointing out the obvious as it's clearly a reference to Tim's battling spirit (despite him being labelled by some as one of HW boxing's wastes of talent)

by catchweight Fri 04 Oct 2013, 3:11 pm

DAVE667 wrote:Or just pointing out the obvious as it's clearly a reference to Tim's battling spirit (despite him being labelled by some as one of HW boxing's wastes of talent)

I wasnt referring to Witherspoon at all. I meant Wlads last opponent was a cancer victim. The super sensitive on here appear to have found that offensive.

by hazharrison Fri 04 Oct 2013, 3:12 pm

monty junior wrote:
hazharrison wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
hazharrison wrote:
Scottrf wrote:Fury wouldn't last a round against Wlad.
Ah those famed Klitschko first round knockouts.
He hasn't fought Fury.
If Tony Thompson terrified Wladimir, don't expect me to believe Fury wouldn't. He'd be even cagier than usual.
What is your proof of Tony featherduster Thompson terrified Wladimir quit with hating the champ. Terrified him so much he got put to sleep twice?!

Watch the fights man. It's like kindergarten on here.

by catchweight Fri 04 Oct 2013, 3:14 pm

monty junior wrote:It's just so boring to hear these once good fighters constantly blabber on about how rubbish everyone is now and how great it was in their day. Sure there was a deeper pool of heavyweight's but boxing has moved on, guys are bigger stronger and fight in a different way, especially in the HW division with European dominance. Wish they would just let it go, take the credit they deserve for the fights they took part in back in the 80s and give credit to the current best which are the Klitschko's. Was listening to an interview with Earnie Shavers the other day saying nobody would last more than 3 rounds with guys from the 70s, sure plenty would get knocked out if you stand still and don't move but plenty of those guy's have flaws as well, Foreman and Shavers had terrible stamina whilst the latter also had a jaw that would embarrass even Jeremy Williams, Ali had very little punch power, Frazier could do little but throw an excellent left hook. So whilst we maybe lack the great brawls or 50/50 HW title fights of 25+ year's ago these guy's should just suck it up and give credit to guy's who represent the sport well as champion's. They may be not be as exciting but at least they respect the sport enough to avoid coming in 2 stone overweight with a drug addiction.

Do you not think they have a point?

by hazharrison Fri 04 Oct 2013, 3:17 pm

monty junior wrote:It's just so boring to hear these once good fighters constantly blabber on about how rubbish everyone is now and how great it was in their day. Sure there was a deeper pool of heavyweight's but boxing has moved on, guys are bigger stronger and fight in a different way, especially in the HW division with European dominance. Wish they would just let it go, take the credit they deserve for the fights they took part in back in the 80s and give credit to the current best which are the Klitschko's. Was listening to an interview with Earnie Shavers the other day saying nobody would last more than 3 rounds with guys from the 70s, sure plenty would get knocked out if you stand still and don't move but plenty of those guy's have flaws as well, Foreman and Shavers had terrible stamina whilst the latter also had a jaw that would embarrass even Jeremy Williams, Ali had very little punch power, Frazier could do little but throw an excellent left hook. So whilst we maybe lack the great brawls or 50/50 HW title fights of 25+ year's ago these guy's should just suck it up and give credit to guy's who represent the sport well as champion's. They may be not be as exciting but at least they respect the sport enough to avoid coming in 2 stone overweight with a drug addiction.

Go and wash your mouth out (or at least rinse your finger tips). Joe was a nifty pressure fighter with a prodigious punch output.

The 70's guys were far fitter than today's mob. Faster, too. They'd scare the bejesus out of Wladimir (who was papping himself late on against Haye whenever he bothered to try throwing a shot).

by Guest Fri 04 Oct 2013, 3:20 pm

Sooooooooooooooo....

Anyone predicting a post fight dust up featuring Haye/Chisora/Fury etc will be more exciting than Saturday's snorefest?

by **rodders** Fri 04 Oct 2013, 3:21 pm

What channel is this on?

by Guest Fri 04 Oct 2013, 3:24 pm

BoxNation I believe

by mobilemaster8 Fri 04 Oct 2013, 3:35 pm

Any pics yet? How did that sloth Povetkin look? Fleshy id imagine?

by Scottrf Fri 04 Oct 2013, 3:38 pm

Weigh in Pics:

by **rodders** Fri 04 Oct 2013, 3:42 pm

DAVE667 wrote:BoxNation I believe

Sh*t. What's the deal with that? How much per month?

by mobilemaster8 Fri 04 Oct 2013, 3:51 pm

£10 a month rodders.

Also, cheers for pics Scott. Ill be tuning in to see this povetkin overhyped bum get destroyed in 6.

Get in.

by monty junior Fri 04 Oct 2013, 3:55 pm

When is the fight due to start fellas?

by **Union Cane** Fri 04 Oct 2013, 4:19 pm

BN coverage starts at 8, Moscow is 3 hours ahead so should be too much waiting.

by **Union Cane** Fri 04 Oct 2013, 4:20 pm

Scottrf wrote:
Weigh in Pics:

Did Povetkin have a training camp? Jesus.

by milkyboy Fri 04 Oct 2013, 5:01 pm

He held it in burger kingski

Looks like he might have over trained

by catchweight Fri 04 Oct 2013, 5:19 pm

Povetkin looks like the fat kid in school who has to play in goals and stands on the side during gym class. This is supposed to be the biggest threat in the division? What a joke. He doesnt look like an athlete. In fact he reminds me of Nicky Piper these days. Just give him a pair of glasses.

by TopHat24/7 Fri 04 Oct 2013, 5:26 pm

David Haye looks an athlete, see how he got on......

by Rowley Fri 04 Oct 2013, 5:28 pm

catchweight wrote:Povetkin looks like the fat kid in school who has to play in goals and stands on the side during gym class.

Aah, happy days.

by monty junior Fri 04 Oct 2013, 5:31 pm

catchweight wrote:
monty junior wrote:It's just so boring to hear these once good fighters constantly blabber on about how rubbish everyone is now and how great it was in their day. Sure there was a deeper pool of heavyweight's but boxing has moved on, guys are bigger stronger and fight in a different way, especially in the HW division with European dominance. Wish they would just let it go, take the credit they deserve for the fights they took part in back in the 80s and give credit to the current best which are the Klitschko's. Was listening to an interview with Earnie Shavers the other day saying nobody would last more than 3 rounds with guys from the 70s, sure plenty would get knocked out if you stand still and don't move but plenty of those guy's have flaws as well, Foreman and Shavers had terrible stamina whilst the latter also had a jaw that would embarrass even Jeremy Williams, Ali had very little punch power, Frazier could do little but throw an excellent left hook. So whilst we maybe lack the great brawls or 50/50 HW title fights of 25+ year's ago these guy's should just suck it up and give credit to guy's who represent the sport well as champion's. They may be not be as exciting but at least they respect the sport enough to avoid coming in 2 stone overweight with a drug addiction.
Do you not think they have a point?

Nope, just bitter old men.

by Champagne_Socialist Fri 04 Oct 2013, 6:13 pm

catchweight wrote:Povetkin looks like the fat kid in school who has to play in goals and stands on the side during gym class. This is supposed to be the biggest threat in the division? What a joke. He doesnt look like an athlete. In fact he reminds me of Nicky Piper these days. Just give him a pair of glasses.

Just because he does not have the body of Bruno or Haye does not mean anything.

by Hammersmith harrier Fri 04 Oct 2013, 6:35 pm

Ali had punch power, he just rarely needed to use it.

by Boxtthis Fri 04 Oct 2013, 6:55 pm

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
catchweight wrote:Povetkin looks like the fat kid in school who has to play in goals and stands on the side during gym class. This is supposed to be the biggest threat in the division? What a joke. He doesnt look like an athlete. In fact he reminds me of Nicky Piper these days. Just give him a pair of glasses.
Just because he does not have the body of Bruno or Haye does not mean anything.

Yeah, it's more the fact that he's not a very good boxer that is his main issue. I see a classic Wlad performance here. Povetkin gets sickened by jabs and then more and more straight rights. Gets waved off mid to late rounds.

by Mr Bounce Fri 04 Oct 2013, 10:03 pm

I think Povetkin is going to do one of two things: He will either have the fight of his life and lose a close but Unanimous Decision, or he will choke and be KO'd by the end of the 8th.

Whichever happens, it will be business as usual for Wlad. I don't think he will be beaten durng this reign - he'll just get bored.

by catchweight Fri 04 Oct 2013, 10:37 pm

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
catchweight wrote:Povetkin looks like the fat kid in school who has to play in goals and stands on the side during gym class. This is supposed to be the biggest threat in the division? What a joke. He doesnt look like an athlete. In fact he reminds me of Nicky Piper these days. Just give him a pair of glasses.
Just because he does not have the body of Bruno or Haye does not mean anything.

I think Il go with the safe option that hes another poor athlete with limited skills and a body that suggests hes not dedicated.

by Champagne_Socialist Sat 05 Oct 2013, 12:12 am

catchweight wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
catchweight wrote:Povetkin looks like the fat kid in school who has to play in goals and stands on the side during gym class. This is supposed to be the biggest threat in the division? What a joke. He doesnt look like an athlete. In fact he reminds me of Nicky Piper these days. Just give him a pair of glasses.
Just because he does not have the body of Bruno or Haye does not mean anything.
I think Il go with the safe option that hes another poor athlete with limited skills and a body that suggests hes not dedicated.

My guess is that you are a middle aged mad who is nostalgic about life and so you insult the current HW scene because you are having a mid life crisis and it makes you feel good about your youth.

by azania Sat 05 Oct 2013, 12:19 am

Pov is a beast. Great fighter. Just like mormeck was like tyson. Wlad said so therefore it must be true.

by catchweight Sat 05 Oct 2013, 12:27 am

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
catchweight wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
catchweight wrote:Povetkin looks like the fat kid in school who has to play in goals and stands on the side during gym class. This is supposed to be the biggest threat in the division? What a joke. He doesnt look like an athlete. In fact he reminds me of Nicky Piper these days. Just give him a pair of glasses.
Just because he does not have the body of Bruno or Haye does not mean anything.
I think Il go with the safe option that hes another poor athlete with limited skills and a body that suggests hes not dedicated.
My guess is that you are a middle aged mad who is nostalgic about life and so you insult the current HW scene because you are having a mid life crisis and it makes you feel good about your youth.

Id say you probably have your head stuck so far up Klitschkos ass you wouldnt have a clue what a decent heavyweight looks like.

by Champagne_Socialist Sat 05 Oct 2013, 12:34 am

catchweight wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
catchweight wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
catchweight wrote:Povetkin looks like the fat kid in school who has to play in goals and stands on the side during gym class. This is supposed to be the biggest threat in the division? What a joke. He doesnt look like an athlete. In fact he reminds me of Nicky Piper these days. Just give him a pair of glasses.
Just because he does not have the body of Bruno or Haye does not mean anything.
I think Il go with the safe option that hes another poor athlete with limited skills and a body that suggests hes not dedicated.
My guess is that you are a middle aged mad who is nostalgic about life and so you insult the current HW scene because you are having a mid life crisis and it makes you feel good about your youth.
Id say you probably have your head stuck so far up Klitschkos ass you wouldnt have a clue what a decent heavyweight looks like.

the 80's and 90's are never coming back so just accept the fact your youth has ended and you are middle aged. There is a thread about it on the off topic section you should have a read through it, it may help you get over your mid life crisis.

by Hammersmith harrier Sat 05 Oct 2013, 12:35 am

I don't think not rating the K bros has anything to do with being middle aged or nostalgic, they just aren't that good.

by Champagne_Socialist Sat 05 Oct 2013, 12:38 am

Hammersmith harrier wrote:I don't think not rating the K bros has anything to do with being middle aged or nostalgic, they just aren't that good.

I'm not saying everyone who has a negative view of the klitschkos are nostalgic but in this case the poster clearly is due to his numerous other posts.

by catchweight Sat 05 Oct 2013, 12:41 am

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
catchweight wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
catchweight wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
catchweight wrote:Povetkin looks like the fat kid in school who has to play in goals and stands on the side during gym class. This is supposed to be the biggest threat in the division? What a joke. He doesnt look like an athlete. In fact he reminds me of Nicky Piper these days. Just give him a pair of glasses.
Just because he does not have the body of Bruno or Haye does not mean anything.
I think Il go with the safe option that hes another poor athlete with limited skills and a body that suggests hes not dedicated.
My guess is that you are a middle aged mad who is nostalgic about life and so you insult the current HW scene because you are having a mid life crisis and it makes you feel good about your youth.
Id say you probably have your head stuck so far up Klitschkos ass you wouldnt have a clue what a decent heavyweight looks like.
the 80's and 90's are never coming back so just accept the fact your youth has ended and you are middle aged. There is a thread about it on the off topic section you should have a read through it, it may help you get over your mid life crisis.

Haha yeah sure a mid life crisis is these days is pointing out that Povetkin has saggy moobs and is a pile of crap. I think Il just get a new car instead. State of you. I bet you wet yourself when Klitschko comes out to big fireworks and think hes great when he jabs some useless punch bag to death. Maybe you should go watch a few past heavyweights. It might get your head out of Klitschkos ass for a while.

by Champagne_Socialist Sat 05 Oct 2013, 12:46 am

catchweight wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
catchweight wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
catchweight wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
catchweight wrote:Povetkin looks like the fat kid in school who has to play in goals and stands on the side during gym class. This is supposed to be the biggest threat in the division? What a joke. He doesnt look like an athlete. In fact he reminds me of Nicky Piper these days. Just give him a pair of glasses.
Just because he does not have the body of Bruno or Haye does not mean anything.
I think Il go with the safe option that hes another poor athlete with limited skills and a body that suggests hes not dedicated.
My guess is that you are a middle aged mad who is nostalgic about life and so you insult the current HW scene because you are having a mid life crisis and it makes you feel good about your youth.
Id say you probably have your head stuck so far up Klitschkos ass you wouldnt have a clue what a decent heavyweight looks like.
the 80's and 90's are never coming back so just accept the fact your youth has ended and you are middle aged. There is a thread about it on the off topic section you should have a read through it, it may help you get over your mid life crisis.
Haha yeah sure a mid life crisis is these days is pointing out that Povetkin has saggy moobs and is a pile of crap. I think Il just get a new car instead. State of you. I bet you wet yourself when Klitschko comes out to big fireworks and think hes great when he jabs some useless punch bag to death. Maybe you should go watch a few past heavyweights. It might get your head out of Klitschkos ass for a while.

The past is never coming back!!

by catchweight Sat 05 Oct 2013, 12:47 am

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
catchweight wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
catchweight wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
catchweight wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
catchweight wrote:Povetkin looks like the fat kid in school who has to play in goals and stands on the side during gym class. This is supposed to be the biggest threat in the division? What a joke. He doesnt look like an athlete. In fact he reminds me of Nicky Piper these days. Just give him a pair of glasses.
Just because he does not have the body of Bruno or Haye does not mean anything.
I think Il go with the safe option that hes another poor athlete with limited skills and a body that suggests hes not dedicated.
My guess is that you are a middle aged mad who is nostalgic about life and so you insult the current HW scene because you are having a mid life crisis and it makes you feel good about your youth.
Id say you probably have your head stuck so far up Klitschkos ass you wouldnt have a clue what a decent heavyweight looks like.
the 80's and 90's are never coming back so just accept the fact your youth has ended and you are middle aged. There is a thread about it on the off topic section you should have a read through it, it may help you get over your mid life crisis.
Haha yeah sure a mid life crisis is these days is pointing out that Povetkin has saggy moobs and is a pile of crap. I think Il just get a new car instead. State of you. I bet you wet yourself when Klitschko comes out to big fireworks and think hes great when he jabs some useless punch bag to death. Maybe you should go watch a few past heavyweights. It might get your head out of Klitschkos ass for a while.
The past is never coming back!!

Wow a genius to boot. The educatonal system in Klitschkos rectum is better than I thought.

by Champagne_Socialist Sat 05 Oct 2013, 12:49 am

catchweight wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
catchweight wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
catchweight wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
catchweight wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
catchweight wrote:Povetkin looks like the fat kid in school who has to play in goals and stands on the side during gym class. This is supposed to be the biggest threat in the division? What a joke. He doesnt look like an athlete. In fact he reminds me of Nicky Piper these days. Just give him a pair of glasses.
Just because he does not have the body of Bruno or Haye does not mean anything.
I think Il go with the safe option that hes another poor athlete with limited skills and a body that suggests hes not dedicated.
My guess is that you are a middle aged mad who is nostalgic about life and so you insult the current HW scene because you are having a mid life crisis and it makes you feel good about your youth.
Id say you probably have your head stuck so far up Klitschkos ass you wouldnt have a clue what a decent heavyweight looks like.
the 80's and 90's are never coming back so just accept the fact your youth has ended and you are middle aged. There is a thread about it on the off topic section you should have a read through it, it may help you get over your mid life crisis.
Haha yeah sure a mid life crisis is these days is pointing out that Povetkin has saggy moobs and is a pile of crap. I think Il just get a new car instead. State of you. I bet you wet yourself when Klitschko comes out to big fireworks and think hes great when he jabs some useless punch bag to death. Maybe you should go watch a few past heavyweights. It might get your head out of Klitschkos ass for a while.
The past is never coming back!!
Wow a genius to boot. The educatonal system in Klitschkos rectum is better than I thought.

Like I said you need to get over your mid life crisis.

by catchweight Sat 05 Oct 2013, 12:55 am

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
catchweight wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
catchweight wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
catchweight wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
catchweight wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
catchweight wrote:Povetkin looks like the fat kid in school who has to play in goals and stands on the side during gym class. This is supposed to be the biggest threat in the division? What a joke. He doesnt look like an athlete. In fact he reminds me of Nicky Piper these days. Just give him a pair of glasses.
Just because he does not have the body of Bruno or Haye does not mean anything.
I think Il go with the safe option that hes another poor athlete with limited skills and a body that suggests hes not dedicated.
My guess is that you are a middle aged mad who is nostalgic about life and so you insult the current HW scene because you are having a mid life crisis and it makes you feel good about your youth.
Id say you probably have your head stuck so far up Klitschkos ass you wouldnt have a clue what a decent heavyweight looks like.
the 80's and 90's are never coming back so just accept the fact your youth has ended and you are middle aged. There is a thread about it on the off topic section you should have a read through it, it may help you get over your mid life crisis.
Haha yeah sure a mid life crisis is these days is pointing out that Povetkin has saggy moobs and is a pile of crap. I think Il just get a new car instead. State of you. I bet you wet yourself when Klitschko comes out to big fireworks and think hes great when he jabs some useless punch bag to death. Maybe you should go watch a few past heavyweights. It might get your head out of Klitschkos ass for a while.
The past is never coming back!!
Wow a genius to boot. The educatonal system in Klitschkos rectum is better than I thought.
Like I said you need to get over your mid life crisis.

Listening to your retardedness is making me feel a whole lot better already. What a come back. Wow that really told me. Are you going to have all your friends over to watch Klitschko against saggy jubblies and high five each other when his entrance music starts playing?

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