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Post by BoxingFan88 Sat 11 May 2013, 6:12 pm

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Has Anyone seen the latest ring magazine ratings?

Absolutely shocking...

1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Andre Ward
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Wladimir Klitchsko
5. Abner Mares
6. Adrien Broner
7. Sergio Martinez
8. Manny Pacquiao
9. Tim Bradley
10. Saul Alvarez

I don't even know where to start with this, over to you.

Adrien Broner above Manny Pacquiao? Who the hell has he beat? Saul Alvarez makes the cut, but Froch or Donaire don't

Laughable.

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Post by davidemore Sun 12 May 2013, 6:25 pm

WHERE THE **** IS RIGO, FROCH AND JUST ABOUT ANYONE ELSE WHO CAN CLAIM TO HAVE PUNCHED A MAN IN THE FACE?

This list is BS.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sun 12 May 2013, 8:06 pm

Mine would be nothing like this:

Mayweather
W.Klitschko
Andre Ward
Juan Manuel Marquez
Carl Froch
Rigondeux
Pacquiao
Donaire
Bradley
Mares

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Post by manos de piedra Sun 12 May 2013, 8:46 pm

A bit generous to Wlad and Froch there for me!

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Post by Diamond in the rough Sun 12 May 2013, 9:31 pm

I wouldn't put froch in the top 10 at all like him and that but just not in top 10 p4p would make a bigger case for broner than froch

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Post by BoxingFan88 Sun 12 May 2013, 9:41 pm

mobilemaster8 wrote:Mine would be nothing like this:

Mayweather
W.Klitschko
Andre Ward
Juan Manuel Marquez
Carl Froch
Rigondeux
Pacquiao
Donaire
Bradley
Mares

Right names, wrong order Smile

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Post by Makaveli Sun 12 May 2013, 10:07 pm

Id have it

Mayweather
Andre Wardl
Carl Frotch
Wladmir Klitscho
Marquez
Rigondeux
Bradley
Donaire
Pacquiao
Mares

The reason i have Froch aboe Wlad is his faught better opposition recently than Wlad has

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Post by azania Sun 12 May 2013, 10:26 pm

Froch at 3? Wow. Above JMM? Rigo?

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Post by Makaveli Sun 12 May 2013, 11:02 pm

Why not? marquez was losing to pacman till he pulled put that punch, and fair play rigo did well against donnaire but he did get dropped and that punch donnaire knocked him down with was from an awkward position maybe that says more about donnaire power than rigos frailty, but atleast We know froch is alot more durable.

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Post by Makaveli Sun 12 May 2013, 11:03 pm

my opinions might change after kessler froch and rigo vs mares but for now thats my rankings

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun 12 May 2013, 11:15 pm

Don't really like doing p4p lists, rather concentrate on ranking the best fighters in each weight category, but might as well go for it

1.) Floyd
2.) Ward
3.) JMM
4.) Martinez
5.) Rigo
6.) Wlad
7.) Donaire
8.) Pacquiao
9.) Bradley
10.) Mares

Broner and Canelo are on the fringes and fighters like Viloria and Guerrero needs to regroup after recent losses

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Post by azania Mon 13 May 2013, 12:26 am

Makaveli wrote:Why not? marquez was losing to pacman till he pulled put that punch, and fair play rigo did well against donnaire but he did get dropped and that punch donnaire knocked him down with was from an awkward position maybe that says more about donnaire power than rigos frailty, but atleast We know froch is alot more durable.
JMMwon in devastating fashion. That's the bottom line.

You could argue thst Froch lost to Dirrell and was losing to Thompson and decked by him also. JMMhas been consistent in winning. Froch hasn't. I'd have Frock at 10 at best.

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Post by Makaveli Mon 13 May 2013, 2:48 pm

Your forgetting how easily he beat Bute, id say he won that fight in devastating fashion

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Post by Diamond in the rough Mon 13 May 2013, 2:55 pm

WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:Don't really like doing p4p lists, rather concentrate on ranking the best fighters in each weight category, but might as well go for it

1.) Floyd
2.) Ward
3.) JMM
4.) Martinez
5.) Rigo
6.) Wlad
7.) Donaire
8.) Pacquiao
9.) Bradley
10.) Mares

Broner and Canelo are on the fringes and fighters like Viloria and Guerrero needs to regroup after recent losses


There are 4 welterweights in your top 10 although its hard to argue I would still put alverez in as he is number 1 MW in the world rather than number 4 ww in the world! Broner is also a 2 weight world champ and was the man in both weights

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Mon 13 May 2013, 3:43 pm

azania wrote:
Makaveli wrote:Why not? marquez was losing to pacman till he pulled put that punch, and fair play rigo did well against donnaire but he did get dropped and that punch donnaire knocked him down with was from an awkward position maybe that says more about donnaire power than rigos frailty, but atleast We know froch is alot more durable.
JMMwon in devastating fashion. That's the bottom line.

You could argue thst Froch lost to Dirrell and was losing to Thompson and decked by him also. JMMhas been consistent in winning. Froch hasn't. I'd have Frock at 10 at best.

Never heard of Thompson. Is he in your p4p top 5??

I remember he fought Taylor though. It was watched by the whole of Puerto Rico down South America way.
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Post by azania Mon 13 May 2013, 3:57 pm

Cheers. Taylor.

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Mon 13 May 2013, 4:20 pm

Diamond in the rough wrote:
WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:Don't really like doing p4p lists, rather concentrate on ranking the best fighters in each weight category, but might as well go for it

1.) Floyd
2.) Ward
3.) JMM
4.) Martinez
5.) Rigo
6.) Wlad
7.) Donaire
8.) Pacquiao
9.) Bradley
10.) Mares

Broner and Canelo are on the fringes and fighters like Viloria and Guerrero needs to regroup after recent losses


There are 4 welterweights in your top 10 although its hard to argue I would still put alverez in as he is number 1 MW in the world rather than number 4 ww in the world! Broner is also a 2 weight world champ and was the man in both weights

Yea I know that's why I like to stick to rating per division. Mayweather has to be there, pacquiao was/is still one of the best fighters in the world and looked good before losing to another great fighter, JMM was the best LW and would still beat any of the LWW's and WW's today and bradley likewise. Welterweight is just a stacked division, and the TopRank fighters are the best fighters there (excluding Floyd obviously)

Broner and Canelo are on the finges as both have only 1 really good name on there CV's with DeMarco and Trout respectively. Neither divisions are as stacked as Welter and SFW was especially poor

I can see JMM and Pacquiao falling out of the top 10 in the next 12-18 months whether by there own doing or by others doings better.

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