Life without the Kiltschkos.

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Just a hypothetical here, and entirely a pointless one at that. Say the Klitschkos were to disappear overnight and everyone is willing to fight everyone else (I know, crazy, right?). All the belts are now vacant. Who do we feel would emerge as the top dog after the dust settles? Or, if you fancy sitting on the fence, which four fighters would you have holding a belt each? Would Fury beat Haye? Would Price beat Tyson. Seth Mitchell clean up? Or Pulev? Wilder? Would Povetkin finally step up or would he get beaten to the punch by some of the up-and-comers who’ve emerged whilst he’s been biding his time?

Essentially, this is a ‘out of the current second tier (the first tier being the Ks) crop, who, if thrust into the fray, is best?’ best’ kind of question. Would be interested to see what people think either way.

severe-mma wrote:Haye would smash ol man Vitali to pieces. Why else do you think Vitalis been ducking him? Vitali aint even the third or fourth best heavyweight now. Fury, Price and Haye all smash him.

Do you refuse to listen to people?

vitali offered haye a fight and HAYE pulled out to fight Chisora.

To be fair Az Price is a far more suited fighter to take Vitali out than Fury, the difference in power between the two is obvious.

I'm not saying he had credibility, but he's exposed himself as a WUM saying that Tyson "I forgot how to knock anyone out and labour to a points win" Fury would beat Vitali. Nothing we have seen suggests he would be capable.

Fury does look much better than half a dozen fights ago but I can't really see him ever being a problem for vitali or wlad.

The same can be said for haye.

I think price one day could be capable but vitali will be a long way over the hill by the time that happens as he probably needs another six fights yet.

severe-mma wrote:Haye would smash ol man Vitali to pieces. Why else do you think Vitalis been ducking him? Vitali aint even the third or fourth best heavyweight now. Fury, Price and Haye all smash him.

No one in their right mind believes Vitali is ducking Haye. It has already been established that Haye fought Chisora instead of fighting Vitali. This fight adds nothing to his legacy and he has fought long enough at top level to decide against whether he wants to fight someone who couldn't handle his little brother or not. I actually believe Vitali has a life outside boxing, so Haye is irrelevant to him.

Why is Vitali able to use the shoulder injury as an excuse for a laboured performance against Chisora, but Haye can't do the same with his toe?

I don't buy that they are scared of him, but people's dislike for Haye is pretty evident here.

Lumbering_Jack wrote:Why is Vitali able to use the shoulder injury as an excuse for a laboured performance against Chisora, but Haye can't do the same with his toe?

I don't buy that they are scared of him, but people's dislike for Haye is pretty evident here.

First of all vitali won and haye lost. second of all vitali never used his injury as an excuse he just reported that during the fight he got an injury.

I never said he did use it as an excuse. But his fans certainly do, seems like a case of double standards.

He gave the reason for a laboured performance as an injury. That's an excuse in anyone's book, especially after it only really arose once Haye had blown Chisora away.

seanmichaels wrote:He gave the reason for a laboured performance as an injury. That's an excuse in anyone's book, especially after it only really arose once Haye had blown Chisora away.

Actually bernard boente said he got an injury in the press conference after the vitali chisora fight way before haye fought chisora.I have not seen anything where vitali talked about his injury after the haye chisora fight. As you claim vitali talked about it after haye v chisora can you post a link to where you read this please.

Semantics..........

Whole argument is banal..........

I wonder what effects a boxer more, an injured toe or shoulder, the answer is quite self explanatory really.

Probably Severe-Mma is a Die hard fan. " Make Fists with your Toes" and has taken it literally.