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Post by wales606 Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:22 am

First topic message reminder :

Keeping organised the ins and outs at the Blues leading into next season.

New Signing
Paetru Tamba (during the season)
Filo Paulo - North Harbour (confirmed)
Matthew Rees (confirmed)
Liam Davies (confirmed - until end of season)
Gethin Jenkins (confirmed)
Miles Normandale (confirmed)
Rhys Gill - Saracens (rumoured) Unlikely
Craig Mitchell - Exeter (rumoured) Unlikely
Adam Warren - Scarlets (rumoured)
Dan Lydiate - Dragons (mentioned) (rumoured)
Scott Williams - Scarlets (rumoured)
James Hook (rumoured - again)
Rodney So’oialo - Honda Heat (rumoured)
Aled Summerhill - Blues Academy
Ben Roach - Blues Academy
Ellis Jenkins - Blues Academy
Tom Pascoe - Blues Academy
Will Thomas - Blues Academy

Departures (all confirmed)
Jamie Roberts - Racing Metro
Ceri Sweeney - Exeter Chiefs
Tom James - Exeter Chiefs
Michael Paterson - Sale Sharks
Jason Tovey - Newport Gwent Dragons
Campese Ma'afu - Nottingham
Ryan Harford - Cardiff RFC
Nathan Trevett - London Welsh
Matthew Screech - Newport Gwent Dragons
Darren Harries - Scarlets
Jake Cooper Wooley - London Wasps
Cory Hill - Cornish Pirates
Petru Tamba - Unattached
Andi Kyriacou - Retired
Xavier Rush


Re-Signings
Alex Cuthbert (3 years)
Scott Andrews (2 years)
Josh Navidi (3 year)
James Down (unknown)
Andreus Pretorious (can't find the article...)
Marc Breeze (unknown)
Lewis Jones (unknown)
Lloyd Williams (3 years)
Tom Williams (3 years)
Rhys Patchell (3 years)
Sam Hobbs (?3 years?)
Rhys Williams (?3 years?)
Tom Davies (?3 years?)
Richard Smith (2 years)


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Post by DeludedOptimistorjustDave Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:29 pm

Well done Cardiff beat the Europe champs and a shocking biased ref!

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Post by whocares Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:29 pm

Well done cardiff, makes the group a little interesting now.

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Post by wales606 Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:29 pm

WOW!

Talk about a test of defence after last week!

Robin Copeland MOTM

Jesus there go my nerves
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Post by The Saint Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:29 pm

Phew. On edge for you lot there. And Glasgow, don't say Cardiff don't do you any favours.

Sean Copeland MOTM....

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Post by VinceWLB Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:29 pm

Glorious result.

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Post by MarcusHalberstram Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:30 pm

Wow! Bravo Blues. Showed some guts in the last five mins too.

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Post by BigTrevsbigmac Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:30 pm

Come on Exeter!

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Post by flyhalffactory Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:30 pm

TJ wrote:Good win blues.  Does Glasgow a favour does it not?
Certainly does do Glasgow a favour whey hey!!.......... Good win again for Cardiff and another one for the Rabo!
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Post by Artful_Dodger Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:30 pm

Woah. What a result for the Blues.

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:31 pm

I hope Copeland gets caped soon by ireland.

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Post by TJ Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:31 pm

DeludedOptimistorjustDave wrote:Well done Cardiff beat the Europe champs and a shocking biased ref!
will you stop whinging about the ref being biased. Its a load on nonsense and make Welsh supporters look really really stupid.

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Post by rodders Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:31 pm

Wow amazing result! Well done Blues!

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Post by asoreleftshoulder Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:32 pm

Great result,I had backed Toulon to win -11 but with 5 minutes left I knew they wouldn't do it so wanted Cardiff to beat them.Top result and really shakes up the pool.

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Post by 21st Century Schizoid Man Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:34 pm

That ref joins others from his country at being incompetent. Still very well played Cardiff clap 
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Post by George Carlin Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:35 pm

The Saint wrote:Phew. On edge for you lot there. And Glasgow, don't say Cardiff don't do you any favours.
 Wouldn't dream of it, Saint. Come on you mighty Blues! Cardiff Blues Season Thread (Toulon fall in Cardiff) - Page 20 Smiley14
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Post by VinceWLB Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:36 pm

From losing to Zebre to this, amazing.

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Post by Guest Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:37 pm

TJ wrote:
DeludedOptimistorjustDave wrote:Well done Cardiff beat the Europe champs and a shocking biased ref!
will you stop whinging about the ref being biased.  Its a load on nonsense and make Welsh supporters look really really stupid.
Not sure how it makes me look stupid (as a welsh supporter)? The poster, yes. But me? No no no.

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Post by TJ Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:38 pm

Fair enough Griff - apologies.

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Post by asoreleftshoulder Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:39 pm

Griff wrote:
TJ wrote:
DeludedOptimistorjustDave wrote:Well done Cardiff beat the Europe champs and a shocking biased ref!
will you stop whinging about the ref being biased.  Its a load on nonsense and make Welsh supporters look really really stupid.
Not sure how it makes me look stupid (as a welsh supporter)? The poster, yes. But me? No no no.
Just goes to show the strength of the Rabo League  Wink


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Post by Cardiff Dave Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:39 pm

wales606 wrote:YES!!!!!!!!!

CARDIFF RFC FLYHALF!!! IT'S GARETH DAVIES!

Copeland must start everygame

And take a bow Cory Allen
I don't believe it. I just don't believe it.
Fantastic!!!!
Not a great game, but who cares. WE WON!!!

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Post by Guest Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:40 pm

Only messing TJ, I know what you meant! People tend to get tarred with the same brush often enough on here.

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Post by Cardiff Dave Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:45 pm

The Saint wrote:Patchell again showing why he shouldn't be in the Wales autumn squad.
He's only 20 so I would give it at least a couple of seasons before he gets anywhere near the senior Welsh squad.
He defo had a Norton Knightmare today and he'll have a few more no doubt.

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Post by wales606 Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:46 pm

[quote="Cardiff Dave"]
The Saint wrote:Norton Knightmare
Shocked Shocked Shocked 

Nowhere near that bad!
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Post by Cardiff Dave Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:51 pm

wales606 wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
The Saint wrote:Norton Knightmare
Shocked Shocked Shocked 

Nowhere near that bad!
Aye you're right. I keep forgetting how bad SNK was.

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Post by The Saint Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:57 pm

TJ wrote:
DeludedOptimistorjustDave wrote:Well done Cardiff beat the Europe champs and a shocking biased ref!
will you stop whinging about the ref being biased.  Its a load on nonsense and make Welsh supporters look really really stupid.
Only if you're stupid enough to read too much into it, just like you have done.

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Post by The Saint Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:00 pm

Cardiff Dave wrote:
The Saint wrote:Patchell again showing why he shouldn't be in the Wales autumn squad.
He's only 20 so I would give it at least a couple of seasons before he gets anywhere near the senior Welsh squad.
He defo had a Norton Knightmare today and he'll have a few more no doubt.
This is what I've been saying, becuase he was pretty poor in Japan as well. Tovey is No.3 fly-half. I hope him and Lewis Evans finally get some Wales recognition this year, it's long overdue.

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Post by Totalflanker Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:11 pm

Cracking result - well done Cardiff! Makes the pool very interesting. one win a piece if Glasgow pull it off tomorrow, Exeter in the driving seat if it goes the other way!

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Post by Coleman Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:29 pm

BLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS!

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Post by maestegmafia Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:37 pm

The Saint wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
The Saint wrote:Patchell again showing why he shouldn't be in the Wales autumn squad.
He's only 20 so I would give it at least a couple of seasons before he gets anywhere near the senior Welsh squad.
He defo had a Norton Knightmare today and he'll have a few more no doubt.
This is what I've been saying, becuase he was pretty poor in Japan as well. Tovey is No.3 fly-half. I hope him and Lewis Evans finally get some Wales recognition this year, it's long overdue.
Feel like Rees is getting in the way of Jonny Evans who also shows serious promise.

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Post by Coleman Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:41 pm

I hope i'm not alone in feeling that Breeze was an unsung hero for us today. I rate him very highly and would like see see him starting more.

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Post by VinceWLB Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:46 pm

Breeze did well but for me Bradley Davies was immense in the front 5.
Bourrust pretty much saved the Blues' scrum when he came on.

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Post by wales606 Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:16 pm

Coleman wrote:I hope i'm not alone in feeling that Breeze was an unsung hero for us today. I rate him very highly and would like see see him starting more.
Breeze has had quite a few fantastic games, unfortunately, he follows them with some rather average ones.

I thought Bradley Davies and Copeland were fantastic today, equally Lloyd Williams in the backs.

Bourrust should really be our starting THP, I don't have a clue how Andrews and more importantly Filise! are ahead of him?
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Post by Coleman Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:33 pm

I agree with Borrust, he's a good scrummaging prop and hasn’t had a long run of games. How we won the pen when Andrews got destroyed in the scrum and lifted off of the floor I will never know. Robin is just fantastic; I will be very upset when he leaves us for an Irish province. Very nice to have a good crowd at the CAP, be good if some of them turned up for the less high profile games after that game.

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Post by doctor_grey Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:36 pm

This has to be the shock of the young Heineken Cup season.  I thought Toulon would simply turn it on after the half time break.
But Cardiff simply stayed around, stayed around, and stayed around some more and I started thinking this ain't bad, this ain't bad.  
Then, this wasn't bad.

Good result Cardiff peoples!

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Post by wales606 Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:38 pm

Ponty with a big win over London Welsh today as well,

Dale McIntosh must be having a good day
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Post by Cardiff Dave Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:57 pm

Coleman wrote:I agree with Borrust, he's a good scrummaging prop and hasn’t had a long run of games. How we won the pen when Andrews got destroyed in the scrum and lifted off of the floor I will never know. Robin is just fantastic; I will be very upset when he leaves us for an Irish province. Very nice to have a good crowd at the CAP, be good if some of them turned up for the less high profile games after that game.
That puzzled me too. Also puzzling was the penalty awarded against 1/2p near our own try line.
Marvelous win however, but I have to say that Toulon seemed a tad under par. Reckon they didn't like the monsoon weather.

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Post by Coleman Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:07 pm

For a prop that is the most embracing thing that can happen to you. Andrews technique must have been well off. Only ever seen it happen at amateur level.

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Post by Notch Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:27 pm

Coleman wrote:For a prop that is the most embracing thing that can happen to you. Andrews technique must have been well off. Only ever seen it happen at amateur level.
So bad the referee penalised the loosehead for dangerous play! Smile 

Absolutely delighted with this result. Brilliant stuff. Cardiff, Leinster and Ulster all giving the French a bloody nose on behalf of the Pro12- wins from Munster and Scarlets would round it off recently!
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Post by Cari Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:42 pm

Congratulations Blues! No one was expecting that result I expect. Judging by the amount of people in town, looks like they had full attendance (or near enough) too. Our bus driver did well not to squash anyone on Westgate Street! Very Happy 

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Post by Cardiff Dave Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:17 pm

Coleman wrote:For a prop that is the most embracing thing that can happen to you. Andrews technique must have been well off. Only ever seen it happen at amateur level.
I must say that i've never seen anything like that before. It was a WTF? moment for me. I wasn't at the game and the incident was replayed in slo-mo on the telly. The commentators couldn't believe that Toulon were penalised as Cardiff's scrum was destroyed. From what I could make out it was for dangerous play I think, but what could the Toulon front row have done any different would be my question. Any props on this here forum that can shed any light?

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Post by Cardiff Dave Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:34 pm

"Cardiff hit by flash flooding chaos on Saturday afternoon"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-24595500

Hoping for the same during the return fixture in sunny south of France.

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Post by Jhamer25 Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:41 pm

Wow, but im not going to lie, im not shocked by the win.
Just look at the Blues' team sheet, they have a strong team; fair to say they are 2 or 3 good signings away from being competitive again in Europe.
Bradely Davies and Gethin Jenkins were work horses aroung the pitch, both immense. But Copeland was the star, who ever spotted him out at the Blues from Rotherham must have a bluddy good idea. Why can't we find a player like him. Also a good young looking partnership brewing down Cardiff way I think. So glad that there is some good centers coming though.
Also Copeland, Welsh qualified soon by any chance Whistle

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Post by wales606 Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:43 pm

Jhamer25 wrote:
Also Copeland, Welsh qualified soon by any chance Whistle
Think we will have to wait a while,

Perhaps we should rap him in a Welsh flag and keep him away from the cameras whenever the Blues travel to Ireland?
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Post by Cardiff Dave Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:46 pm

Jhamer25 wrote:Wow, but im not going to lie, im not shocked by the win.
Just look at the Blues' team sheet, they have a strong team; fair to say they are 2 or 3 good signings away from being competitive again in Europe.
Bradely Davies and Gethin Jenkins were work horses aroung the pitch, both immense. But Copeland was the star, who ever spotted him out at the Blues from Rotherham must have a bluddy good idea. Why can't we find a player like him. Also a good young looking partnership brewing down Cardiff way I think. So glad that there is some good centers coming though.
Also Copeland, Welsh qualified soon by any chance Whistle
You must be the only person on the planet then who wasn't shocked.
Yes 2 or 3 good signings would make us more competitive, but on the other hand we are 2 or 3 injuries away from being uncompetitive. Strength in depth is what we lack and I would urge the Cardiff suits to release the necessary funds to bring in players of the same ilk as Copeland and Navidi ie not current internationals or expensive superstars, but good players who give their all nonetheless. Both of the aforementionment were magnificent yesterday as were our younger players, but I fear our scrum is the weakest link. We've needed a class TH for donkey's. Let's get one asap.

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Post by Jhamer25 Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:45 pm

Cardiff Dave wrote:
Jhamer25 wrote:Wow, but im not going to lie, im not shocked by the win.
Just look at the Blues' team sheet, they have a strong team; fair to say they are 2 or 3 good signings away from being competitive again in Europe.
Bradely Davies and Gethin Jenkins were work horses aroung the pitch, both immense. But Copeland was the star, who ever spotted him out at the Blues from Rotherham must have a bluddy good idea. Why can't we find a player like him. Also a good young looking partnership brewing down Cardiff way I think. So glad that there is some good centers coming though.
Also Copeland, Welsh qualified soon by any chance Whistle
You must be the only person on the planet then who wasn't shocked.
Yes 2 or 3 good signings would make us more competitive, but on the other hand we are 2 or 3 injuries away from being uncompetitive. Strength in depth is what we lack and I would urge the Cardiff suits to release the necessary funds to bring in players of the same ilk as Copeland and Navidi ie not current internationals or expensive superstars, but good players who give their all nonetheless. Both of the aforementionment were magnificent yesterday as were our younger players, but I fear our scrum is the weakest link. We've needed a class TH for donkey's. Let's get one asap.
I guess i am an optimistic person. I eve said before the game that Cardiff had a descent chances, still thought Toulon would win but
You are right though about 2 or 3 injuries away from being uncompetative but then agaisnt these days with the french teams, no other tm is going to have really strength in depth because no one can afford it anymore apart from the french. I mean imaging us with John Davies, Pristland, Liam Willimas, Ospreys without Alyn Wyn, Adam Jones, Richard Hibbard.
Your main priority though (as you said) is a strong scrummaging tighhead, i would recommend Pat Cilliiers.

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Post by Jhamer25 Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:49 pm

wales606 wrote:
Jhamer25 wrote:
Also Copeland, Welsh qualified soon by any chance Whistle
Think we will have to wait a while,

Perhaps we should rap him in a Welsh flag and keep him away from the cameras whenever the Blues travel to Ireland?
Sounds like a good plan to me Very Happy 

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Post by XR Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:35 am

Bradley Davies linked with Leicester, Gloucester and Saracens in the rugby paper this weekend. Out of contract this summer.

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Post by brennomac Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:14 am

All credit to the blues for turning over Toulon, and no doubt everybody outside Toulon has a feeling of schadenfreund about their humbling. Thought Toulon were pathetic, just let Wilko kick, kick and kick more. They were cocky, complacent and a team with all the hallmarks of a bunch of obscenely-paid mercenaries. Wonder how comic book guy feels after that and all the money he p1sses into that team - if Toulon now end up with an away QF then they are very beatable.

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Post by TJ Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:19 am

It blows the group wide open. Well done Blues. More unexpected results in the HC. Its what we like

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Post by George Carlin Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:25 am

Great game by the Blues - why has it taken until now to put that performance together? They can really kick on from here.

The Galactico bubble has been well and truly popped now. Glasgow will be thinking about what they can do to them at home.
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