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WBO Mandatory - Wlad vs Haye II on the cards?

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Post by Union Cane Mon 29 Oct 2012, 1:21 pm

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Provided that he can get past Mariusz Wach, there are rumours that a mandatory challenger for the WBO portion of Wlad's belt collection is on the verge of being announced.

The opponent will be one of the WBO top three ranked contenders, namely Denis Boytsov, Seth Mitchell or David Haye.

The idea of a Wlad vs Haye re-match frankly fills me with dread, the idea of all the name calling and posturing, followed by another risibly inept performance and excuses galore is definitely not an enticing prospect.

Mitchell and Boytsov are unbeaten, but also untested, and with neither troubling the 6'3" mark on the wallchart it seems more than likely that any problems they could pose the champion could be dealt with by the usual leaning and holding tactics.

Mitchell is due to fight long-time Klitschko sparring partner Jonathon Banks next month, so a win there would move him into prime position I would think, although UDAR's 3rd place finish may have finally squashed hopes of Haye vs Vitali, so the Hayemaker hype-machine may grind into action and press for the re-match that surely nobody wants to see.

This could all be irrelevant though, if 6'7 Pole Mariusz Wach has his way two weeks from now.

What say you, 606v2?
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Post by Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake Sun 04 Nov 2012, 7:28 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2227616/Im-A-Celebrity--Get-Me-Out-Here-David-Haye-Helen-Flanagan-Charlie-Brooks-years-line-up.html

I'm most disappointed that The Rock is considering it Sad

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Post by TheMackemMawler Sun 04 Nov 2012, 9:27 pm

azania wrote:
TheMackemMawler wrote:I may be wrong, but wasn't Vitali a replacement for Lewis' original contender? A contender who wasn't much cop. A person Lewis was supposed to annihilate? Because of this wasn't Lewis under prepared for the Vit challenge?

Lewis would tailor a fight strategy to that of the opposition. He was very versatile. Whereas Vitali only has one way of fighting. In a rematch Vit would have fought the exactly same. However, had Lewis known, from the beginning, that Vit would be in the opposing corner, then he may well have fought a different fight.

These facts make it difficult to predict the winner of a rematch, though I'd sway toward Lewis. I think at 38yo he didn't fancy the toughest fight of his career.


They both had to change opponents. Vit was supposed to be on the undercard. Like a true pro he trained like he was fighting for the world title. Lewis was supposed to fight Kirk Johnson and like the fool that he can be, he didn't train as hard as he should have.

The deal was for Vitali to fight Lewis in the next match. I wasn't surprised Lewis retired after. I reckon Vitali would have knocked him out.

A change in opponent wouldn't effect Vit as much as much as it would Lewis. Vit can only fight one way whereas Lewis boxers to his opponent's type. Lewis, after the first fight, would have had a better showing in the second. He would have known what to expect and adjusted. Vitali would have done EVERYTHING identical to the first fight. However, no manner of adjustment by Lewis would have made a rematch an easy nights work. Lewis knowing he would be in the fight of his life at the age of 38 he chose to retire. Some would say sensible; others cowardly.
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Post by azania Sun 04 Nov 2012, 9:39 pm

Sensible. He would have lost a rematch.

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Post by tunes666 Mon 05 Nov 2012, 12:33 am

rycoys wrote:
azania wrote:Wlad was better on the night because he is a better boxer. He is better on any night you care to name.
i am not doubting wlads ability am just saying if wlad was not so much bigger and taller then haye and was not allowed to foul by useing hes forearms the fight would be alot closer , meanig there is not a gulf in class in terms of boxing!!
thats not only umprovable but also irelivant..

A boxer is judged on his ability to use his strengths.. you could say if David was heavier and taller then he would not be as quick... so on.. Why cant other boxers as big as Wlad do what he does?




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