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Post by Seanusarrilius Tue 11 Sep 2012, 3:49 pm

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Ok, here is the conference in full.

Let me say this.

I would prefer him to stay retired, absolutely would, but man Hatton, I wish you well!

http://www.worldboxingnews.net/2012/09/wbn-video-ricky-hatton-comeback-press.html?spref=tw

Wish he knew that we were proud of him tho, depsite his issues, he has my respect


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Post by azania Fri 14 Sep 2012, 9:20 pm

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Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Khan will not be a Great British Hero if he beats Hatton!! What are you on Az!?

Was Oscar a great Mexican hero after beating Chavez?????

Khan will get slated if he fights and beats Hatton, hes hardly a public darling as it is haha

He should be a Great British hero. He has done wonders promoting this country and charitable. He's a great example for youths to follow. A very disciplined man who doesn't drink or party. Devout in his religion and a wonderful ambassador. Not some fat, bear swilling dope head.

1) He does party. Had an awkward explanation to his missus a few months back as he posted a photo of himself in a strip club (excused as a burlesque show) with a wad of cash. This was on Twitter so not surprised you missed it as an example.

2) Hatton was caught snorting only after his career had finished from memory, therefore not really a fair comparison as Khan is still within his therefore keeping himself in good nic.

He was probably helping out a woman in need. I mean when have you heard of Khan chundering on a friday night? Have you seen him with his nose in charlie? Other than his driving skills, he has set an exemplary example for the youth of Britain to follow. Wonderful and positive role model. More kids should be like him.

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Post by azania Fri 14 Sep 2012, 9:21 pm

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rowley wrote:Az, I realised after someone had posted a link to the Daily Mail it was not possible to be embarrased about whatever newspaper you read

Hahaha, truer words have never been spoken

They'd see me on the dole Shah, horrible folk

How do you reconcile your choice of paper to your job? Schizophrenia?!!

Rowley's choice of paper is the Guardian, a paper for tree-hugging immigrant-loving criminal-protecting socialists. His job helping immigrants infiltrate this country is a perfect fit! Whistle

You're making out like being a socialist and helping immigrants is a bad thing. I suppose the EDL are simply good guys out to protect British culture.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 14 Sep 2012, 9:22 pm

Why do you have to be shallow and small minded to dislike Khan???

You like Chisora...are we smallminded and shallow to dislike him...

For me I don't dislike Khan because I don't know him... but I don't particularly respect a guy who makes a lot of money from British fans and then insults them by bringing out the race card when in the USA...

You know your stuff Mate but sometimes I think you only respect "haters"..

and I think you're better than that!!

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Post by azania Fri 14 Sep 2012, 9:23 pm

tunes666 wrote:
compelling and rich wrote:what im really worried about this is how ricky keeps going on about infinished buisness and that he cant retire after the pac thrashing, which tells me hows he going to handle it if he comes back and takes a hiding off someone in his pomp he would have battered, khan being a prime example. he going to keep going because i dont see no fairy tale ending here where he can reclaim a world title and retire
It is known that his training and mental stability was not great for that fight and even before that fight.. It seems Ricky knows that he was not able to give a proper account for him self then... so wants to have another go.

I would think regardless of if he takes a hiding or comes back and kicks some arse, it will put his questions to rest in his head. If he looses then he knows its time to retire and he can let it rest, if he wins then he gets to take in some more success and end his career on a better note than when he was knocked out in 2 rounds.

to look back and see that you ended it when he could have had about 5 or so years left in his career could really do a fighters head in , especially when he ended his career more for out of the ring issues.

I think he will take on a small fight to get rid of the ring rust.. then have a rematch with Paulie M, and IF he wins that fight and wins it with confidence and feels he still has what it takes then he will try and take on one of the big guns...

I don't think its dangerous as I think he will only get in the ring with a top contender if he is doing well enough to merit it... If he was to jump in the ring right away with a champ, or someone like Khan or Brook, then it would be a bit foolish IMO.

Any welter ranked in the top 20 must be chopping at the bits to blast out Hatton. Personally I'd like to see him pose as he did after the Pac fight. The guy should remain retired for the sake of his health and for those small minded football fans who follow him.

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Post by azania Fri 14 Sep 2012, 9:26 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Why do you have to be shallow and small minded to dislike Khan???

You like Chisora...are we smallminded and shallow to dislike him...

For me I don't dislike Khan because I don't know him... but I don't particularly respect a guy who makes a lot of money from British fans and then insults them by bringing out the race card when in the USA...

You know your stuff Mate but sometimes I think you only respect "haters"..

and I think you're better than that!!

If people dislike Khan even more for beating up Hatton then they are small minded`and extremely shallow.

Why are you so obsessed with race? Relax my little icalla.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 14 Sep 2012, 9:27 pm

Personally I wouldn't like to see him blasted out...from what I here he's a good man who has a lot of time for his fans....

Probably why you want him blasted out...

Must be lonely for you on top of the mountain Az...everybody who doesn't agree with you is shallow and smallminded....

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 14 Sep 2012, 9:28 pm

I'm not obsessed by race kiddo...but like most on here I can see right through you....

It's not an altogether pleasant sight...

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Post by azania Fri 14 Sep 2012, 9:29 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Personally I wouldn't like to see him blasted out...from what I here he's a good man who has a lot of time for his fans....

Probably why you want him blasted out...

Must be lonely for you on top of the mountain Az...everybody who doesn't agree with you is shallow and smallminded....

That's what I like about you TRUSS. You make shyte up as you go along.

Hatton has a massive fan base. He's also a junkie. Not my type of person.

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Post by azania Fri 14 Sep 2012, 9:31 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I'm not obsessed by race kiddo...but like most on here I can see right through you....

It's not an altogether pleasant sight...

Now you see what the problem here is. You bait me, you insult me and when I respond I get banned.

For the record I think you're a lovely bloke. thumbsup

Just misguided like a lot of your compatriots.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 14 Sep 2012, 9:35 pm

Don't want to argue with you Az....Just get tired with people who see things in Black and white all the time......

Not everybody who liked Hatton is smallminded and not everybody who hates Khan is shallow and smallminded...

Just wish you'd stop generalising.......and smell the coffee sometimes!!


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Post by azania Fri 14 Sep 2012, 9:39 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Don't want to argue with you Az....Just get tired with people who see things in Black and white all the time......

Not everybody who liked Hatton is smallminded and not everybody who hates Khan is shallow and smallminded...

Just wish you'd stop generalising.......and smell the coffee sometimes!!


Agreed Trussy. There are shades of gray which many refuse to see even when its right in front of them.

Never said everyone who liked Hatton was small minded. Believe this or not, I wanted him to beat Floyd. Love coffee, just not the American excuse for coffee. Italian or Ethiopian coffe.

A side note. Do you realise that coffee originated from Ethiopia when (3000 years ago) a goat herder say his flock eating these beans and they got all excited. He tried it himself.......and the rest is history. True fact.

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Post by eddyfightfan Fri 14 Sep 2012, 11:05 pm

i think the division is stacked enough for hatton to fight credible but winnable fighters. khan, witter, morales, zab judah, mccloskey, frankie gavin, malinaggi, vargas, zavick, ortiz and even brook possibly (although i think brook probably beats hatton) are decent fighters for all involved.

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Post by azania Fri 14 Sep 2012, 11:19 pm

If Hatton makes 140 then I'll forfeit something.

If you think he can beat any of the above then i'll give him all the credit he deserves.

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Post by owen10ozzy Fri 14 Sep 2012, 11:30 pm

azania....clearly you have been trying some of the stuff Ricky had during his retirement...

Are you saying that Hatton cannot beat the likes of...

Witter....Frankie Gavin...Judah...McCloskey...Malignaggi ....

Bar perhaps Ortiz I would give Hatton a very good chance of beating all of them.

You really do come out with some guff mate!

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Post by azania Fri 14 Sep 2012, 11:39 pm

owen10ozzy wrote:azania....clearly you have been trying some of the stuff Ricky had during his retirement...

Are you saying that Hatton cannot beat the likes of...

Witter....Frankie Gavin...Judah...McCloskey...Malignaggi ....

Bar perhaps Ortiz I would give Hatton a very good chance of beating all of them.

You really do come out with some guff mate!

He'll beat Witter even after a night out. Judah? Not a chance. McKloskey? Perhaps. Frankie? Well he's green, has issues out of the ring, so perhaps. Paulie? Doubtful.

Ricky is deluding himself if he thinks he can come back and be remotely successful. His style lends itself to a short career in the first place. With the beating Pac gave him and his less than healthy lifestyle, he better stay retired.

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Post by owen10ozzy Sat 15 Sep 2012, 1:09 am

McCloskey...Perhaps? ...Judah...Not chance....

Seriously you need to check yourself into a hospital and get yourself tested pal.

Judah has been past it for about 7 years...McCloskey barely got past Prescott & was an embarassment against Khan. As soon as Hatton got him on the ropes he would retreat into his shell until the ref stopped it for throwing nothing back!!

Paulie - The guy has one a title at 147 and all of sudden he is back to be a top level fighter...he isn't and never was. The guy got mopped by Khan and was resoundingly beaten by Hatton first time around. He does not posses the power to keep Hatton off him if they met again and for me loses, by stoppage, once again.

I'm coming on here and saying that Hatton is capable of beating the very elite that Light welter/Welter has to offer but none of those guys are that and if Hatton is even 75% of the fighter he was then he has the beating of all of them..


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Post by azania Sat 15 Sep 2012, 1:20 am

Its not about how far those guys have slipped. Its how far Ricky has slipped. He went into a guiness bottle and came out a druggie. He ate for england and partied like its 1999. He has nothing left.

You're assuming that when he steps through the ropes he will be something like he was 4 years ago. If he is, then he beats all of them including Khan. I have serious reservations he will be a quarter of the fighter who was starched by Paq.

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Post by owen10ozzy Sat 15 Sep 2012, 1:56 am

Here is some more stuff for Ricky...who thankfully it would seem is being realistic and is making sure he shakes of ring rust before even thinking about getting in with any of the top guys....

Even those who are against his comeback or the man himself have to admit that the way he is going about this is right. I also like the fact he is showing the fight game and others boxers alot of respect with some of comments...

Taken from the bbc:

Ricky Hatton has ruled out taking on Paulie Malignaggi unless he can prove himself in November's comeback fight.

WBA welterweight champion Malignaggi, who lost to the Manchester-based boxer in 2008, is interested in a rematch.

But Hatton told BBC Radio 5 live: "I have already been linked with fights with Paulie Malignaggi, Amir Khan, Kell Brook and all these guys.

"But there is no point in talking about any of them until I show what I have still got left on 24 November."

Hatton confirmed on Friday that he would be coming out of retirement for a welterweight fight against an as yet unnamed opponent at the Manchester Arena.

There has been speculation he could take on American Malignaggi, Bolton's former light-welterweight world champion Khan or unbeaten Sheffield fighter Brook.

"I don't deserve to be talked about in the same bracket as them at the moment," Hatton insisted. "But if I come back in the manner I expect to - and believe me, I will - then we can start talking about these guys.

"I am a realist. I have got to convince everyone not by words, but by fighting."

Malignaggi, beaten by Hatton in Las Vegas four years ago, told BBC Radio 5 live: "I'd love to get the chance to set the record straight if it comes to that.

"If it doesn't, if Ricky doesn't look good in his comeback or things don't go that way, then all the respect to Ricky.

"He's earned the right to make any decision he wants. What he says and what he does should be respected, no matter what."

That victory over Malignaggi was the last of Hatton's 45 career wins to date.

The Briton, who held the WBA and IBF light-welterweight and WBA welterweight titles, was knocked out in the second round of his IBO light-welterweight title fight against Manny Pacquiao in Las Vegas the following May, and confirmed his retirement last year.

"I have done a lot of hard thinking and a lot of hard work and to say I want to come back with a vengeance is an understatement," added Hatton, who believes his time spent helping train other fighters will aid his own return to the ring.

"Part of my problem throughout my career was that I was so aggressive. I wanted to kill everyone I was in against. I used to fight them like they'd stolen my dinner money.

"I have always had good boxing ability but never really used it because the red mist would set in.

"But hopefully with this new approach to life and my training, this new relaxedness, this good place all-round that I am in, that my boxing - from a technical point of view - will come out more and more.

"To be honest you can change your spots, you can live and learn and be more experienced, but basically I like to fight, end of.

"If you buy a ticket for 24 November, you are not going to see a tickling contest. You are going to see me flying at someone, but hopefully with a bit more patience.

"If I lose, I will still be able to retire in a better place. But if I don't give it another go, I am going to spend another three years sulking about it.

"I have got to go in there and find out. There is no point in me telling you how well I am doing in the gym and how sharp I am looking in sparring. The only way I will make people believe in me again is when they see me splatter somebody."

Malignaggi added: "I'm keen and interested in his comeback. I lost to him four years ago. I'm curious to see how he looks on 24 November. Based on how he looks then, it will be a big measuring stick in terms of his name being mentioned with world championship fighters in 2013 and 2014."

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Post by azania Sat 15 Sep 2012, 2:10 am

Good common sense from Ricky. Lets hope he barely wins his comeback fight against a no hoper and then realises he has nothing left and calls it quits before he gets brutalised by a Paulie type fighter.

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Post by KingMonkey Sat 15 Sep 2012, 10:11 am

Sorry guys, I've come in on the back end of all this but do we actually know anything yet? The opponent is TBA, the weight? What channel is broadcasting?

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Post by trottb Sat 15 Sep 2012, 10:15 am

Looks like it will be at 147. SKY seem pretty keen to pick it up. No opponent yet.

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Post by TheMackemMawler Sat 15 Sep 2012, 10:36 am

I think Ricky's punch resistance was beginning to wane even before he retired. 3 and 1/2 year later and it might be shot to pieces.

He's coming back because he can't accept he got sparked, and should he get sparked again.....SELF DESTRUCTION!!


I wish him luck
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Post by Seanusarrilius Sat 15 Sep 2012, 1:45 pm

ESPN reporting Hatton has been fighting with his dad? Things are rocky behind the scenes. Prob doesn't want him coming back

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Post by compelling and rich Sat 15 Sep 2012, 1:47 pm

Seanusarrilius wrote:ESPN reporting Hatton has been fighting with his dad? Things are rocky behind the scenes. Prob doesn't want him coming back

wouldnt suprise me, always thought his dad came across quite well and always tried his best for his son. think only ricky thinks this is a good idea

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Post by TopHat24/7 Sat 15 Sep 2012, 2:57 pm

rowley wrote:
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rowley wrote:Az, I realised after someone had posted a link to the Daily Mail it was not possible to be embarrased about whatever newspaper you read

Hahaha, truer words have never been spoken

They'd see me on the dole Shah, horrible folk

How do you reconcile your choice of paper to your job? Schizophrenia?!!

Rowley's choice of paper is the Guardian, a paper for tree-hugging immigrant-loving criminal-protecting socialists. His job helping immigrants infiltrate this country is a perfect fit! Whistle

Well said, worryingly accurate description of me as well

Haha thought I'd take up Coxy's old mantle as resident Tory boy for a bit ;-)

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Post by jimdig Sat 15 Sep 2012, 3:08 pm

Seanusarrilius wrote:ESPN reporting Hatton has been fighting with his dad? Things are rocky behind the scenes. Prob doesn't want him coming back

It was on the beeb news this morning, the 61 year old was arrested for assaulting the 33 year old on thursday. If Ray can lay a beating on Ricky, doesn't say much for Ricky's comeback.

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Post by owen10ozzy Sat 15 Sep 2012, 3:49 pm

Sean - That story already broke before Hatton announced his return...the papers/people knew about it but have waited to actually break it. Sad reflection on journalism...wait for some news and then attempt to put the shoe in immediately! As a journalist it makes me cringe.

For anyone interested I have just put an article up on the Hitman's return on my sports blog. Link is below for anyone who wishes to have a read:

http://aviewfrommyarmchair.wordpress.com/2012/09/15/ricky-the-hitman-hatton-returns/

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Post by azania Sat 15 Sep 2012, 11:09 pm

Seanusarrilius wrote:ESPN reporting Hatton has been fighting with his dad? Things are rocky behind the scenes. Prob doesn't want him coming back

His dad probably knocked him out. Ricky is now china chinned.

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