Losing to Wales describe as "Embarrassment".

For world's second best team Wallabies, they describing potential lost to Wales would be embarrassment according to Australian newspaper (I putting the link beneath).

What do colleague posters think about it? My mind is a bit unfair although Australia #2 87.99 and Wales #5 83.32 so because home games Australia by ranking should win by more than 1 try each game. But also compare both teams make the semi-final RWC so maybe can be a bit more closer even though "Aussies" one the last 4 matchings including important world cup playoff and not lost for five years.

"CONCERNS that the Wallabies may suffer an embarrassment similar to losing to Samoa last season and Scotland in 2009 have convinced Test selectors to force key players to back up three times in one week when the international series starts next month.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/union-news/call-of-duty-for-ambushed-wallabies-20120521-1z192.html#ixzz1vflO7DZv
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I think you're reading into it a bit too much.

Well firstly the ranking points mean absolutely nothing. The Aussies are starting to play their famous game of "psyche the opponent through media"

They tend to be very good at that, just look at how they psyched Bruce Lawrence into doing nothing at the RWC.

It was embarressing for them to lose to Samoa, doubt it will be embarressing to lose to Wales, perhaps more infuriating .

If you take out the choice of words by this particular journo, who is particularly arrogant from my recollection. It just sounds like OZ are not going to rest their players against Scotland like previously planned because they have so many injuries that they need their team to have a run out

biltongbek wrote:Well firstly the ranking points mean absolutely nothing. The Aussies are starting to play their famous game of "psyche the opponent through media"

They tend to be very good at that, just look at how they psyched Bruce Lawrence into doing nothing at the RWC.

It was embarressing for them to lose to Samoa, doubt it will be embarressing to lose to Wales, perhaps more infuriating .

Deep breathing excercise please Mr biltonguebek. I reading a lot of the posts you are making consider Bruce Lawrence and is look a bit like some kind of obsessive. If you start making the legend about Australia control the pscyhe then will only be making the other fans more nervous about play them.

Me obsessive?

no mate, Bruce is my dearest friend.

Sounds more like they want to give both scotland and wales the utmost respect, because if they don't, and play 'embarressingly' poorly like they did against Samoa and Scotland, they'll blow it and start the year with questions being asked. Deans is already under pressure, he doesn't want to add to it by taking any team lightly.

Losing to any tier one team is not really embarressing, perhaps the manner in which you do, can be.

Yeah losing to Wales will be an embarassment - that is a gaff of the old Gatland proportions - I'm sure the welsh players will enjoy seeing that.

LOL Biltong you're still so bitter you still call him Bruce instead of Bryce. I actually know some naughty words in Afrikaans you'd like to call him. Think you're just as bitter as us post 07, if not more!

Losing to Samoa is more of an embarrassment than losing to Wales. Fortunately my team hasn't lost to either in my lifetime!

Best example of media manipulation was Campo before the 91 final. Having beaten the 2nd best team there in the semi, he goaded the 3rd best into playing an unfamiliar game and grabbed the spoils.

I remember the day we lost to Wales (yeah, even though it is now a distant memory), I was never so angry in my life (apart of course when bruce, well...).

We had a perfect record against wales, it was actually a good game, but nevertheless, I was very, very angry.

We'll be embarrassed losing to any of the home nations mate no matter how good the game is. I'm with you there mate. It's not about the quality of the side it's more being bitter about not doing justice to the players who brought that record about.

Absolutely, it is unacceptable to be the team that breaks the proud tradition of having a perfect record.

biltongbek wrote:Absolutely, it is unacceptable to be the team that breaks the proud tradition of having a perfect record.

Have to disagree totally with that. I have a feeling this welsh side is going to break a proud record that the likes of Gareth Cooper et al worked so hard for to preserve

How dare they say such a thing.

RubyGuby wrote:

biltongbek wrote:Absolutely, it is unacceptable to be the team that breaks the proud tradition of having a perfect record.

Have to disagree totally with that. I have a feeling this welsh side is going to break a proud record that the likes of Gareth Cooper et al worked so hard for to preserve

ruby, there are two sides to a record mate, I am all for improving on a record.

What's that coming over the hill it's GEORGE NORTH, GEORGE NORTH!!!!

RubyGuby wrote:What's that coming over the hill it's GEORGE NORTH, GEORGE NORTH!!!!

So you're still on about that, eh?

I know you love it Bilt

Halfpenny’s been banging on about wanting respect from SH teams, the easiest way to get that is to beat them on their own door step, and Wales haven't beaten Aus since 1969 (source BBC, haven't checked it so it might be wrong) and have never beaten NZ or SA.

I wish them well this summer.

Then again it would be a shame if Wales won the series the year before the Lions tour there.

C'mon Aus.

well if what you say is true- I hope wales can stuff em

We beat Aus in 1987 albeit in N Z and again in 2008 in Cardiff. All this is media hype anyway - The coaches and players know there is very little between these sides and it should be a cracking series.

RubyGuby wrote:We beat Aus in 1987 albeit in N Z and again in 2008 in Cardiff. All this is media hype anyway - The coaches and players know there is very little between these sides and it should be a cracking series.

Who's counting?

I'm counting, last time I checked it was 12-19 another GS and a scratch on the Range Rover

Ouch!

I'm serious a Welsh series win would mean the Lions tour next year would be a damp squib.

Once a jolly swagman camped by a billabong,
Under the shade of a coolibah tree.
He sang and he watched and waited 'til his billy boiled,
"You'll come a-waltzing, Matilda, with me."

sorry you beat aus when??

were you even born then dude?

Good luck anyway- i will be supporting all european teams this summer

Bless, aint that sweet. The NH supporting each other like that, you'll all need it

That's 1 EBOP

So 1969 was the last time Wales beat Australia in Australia. Can anyone confirm this?

GS-blah. We did 3 in 5 years

EBOP wrote:Bless, aint that sweet. The NH supporting each other like that, you'll all need it

No, worries, EBOP, there is solidarity in the south as well.

I'm sure there will be hundreds if not thousands of Welshmen wishing England well in SA!

I know we will need it, however i dont think all fans are like me!!

biltongbek wrote:

EBOP wrote:Bless, aint that sweet. The NH supporting each other like that, you'll all need it

No, worries, EBOP, there is solidarity in the south as well.

For sure biltong, we're with ya. There's nothing more galling than losing to the NH, just unacceptable. We all must do our bit to keep em ranked 4 and below.

lol bopy..

EBOP wrote:

biltongbek wrote:

EBOP wrote:Bless, aint that sweet. The NH supporting each other like that, you'll all need it

No, worries, EBOP, there is solidarity in the south as well.

For sure biltong, we're with ya. There's nothing more galling than losing to the NH, just unacceptable. We all must do our bit to keep em ranked 4 and below.

Absolutley, especially at home.

We now just need to get argentina into 4th and then world order has been restored.

Wales are the current Grand Slam champions of Europe. It would be more embarassing to lose to Scotland for example. Or Ireland. England not so much because they've done it recently- albeit with a different coach/players

To be honest I think they're pretty much the same level of embarrassment from my point of view. Scotland Ireland Wales now that it's been 60 years Italy Argentina. I'll be spewing when one of those knocks us over. Though the English really love rubbing it in so I lump them in for pure annoyance factor

Haha liking Argentina there at 4th!

ireland beat em up didnt they!!

england have beaten them way more than they havent in recent years- and in a game i would very much back england at present.

The problem with wales is aus are becoming a 'somewhat' bogey team. like ireland were for england- allthough both teams relatively evenly matched - aus have the edge mentally.

But wales are way to good to keep losing - surely. Aus seems to be the easiest scalp to get for NH sides

Oh well then, it looks as though we will have to go out and embarrass them then.

mystiroakey wrote:ireland beat em up didnt they!!

england have beaten them way more than they havent in recent years- and in a game i would very much back england at present.

The problem with wales is aus are becoming a 'somewhat' bogey team. like ireland were for england- allthough both teams relatively evenly matched - aus have the edge mentally.

But wales are way to good to keep losing - surely. Aus seems to be the easiest scalp to get for NH sides

Ireland 'munstered' them in the WC - when was the last time Ireland beat Oz downunder ?

disneychilly wrote:To be honest I think they're pretty much the same level of embarrassment from my point of view. Scotland Ireland Wales now that it's been 60 years Italy Argentina. I'll be spewing when one of those knocks us over. Though the English really love rubbing it in so I lump them in for pure annoyance factor

Haha liking Argentina there at 4th!

To be honest I feel that way with pretty much every team except the All Blacks.

Yeah, that was funny biltong SANZARG ranked 1-4, imagine that, ouch!

EBOP wrote:Yeah, that was funny biltong SANZARG ranked 1-4, imagine that, ouch!

I think they should call it.

ARGH SANZAR again!

munkian wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:ireland beat em up didnt they!!

england have beaten them way more than they havent in recent years- and in a game i would very much back england at present.

The problem with wales is aus are becoming a 'somewhat' bogey team. like ireland were for england- allthough both teams relatively evenly matched - aus have the edge mentally.

But wales are way to good to keep losing - surely. Aus seems to be the easiest scalp to get for NH sides

Ireland 'munstered' them in the WC - when was the last time Ireland beat Oz downunder ?

yep i suppose- but it was neutral, so that ranks a better win than a home one- and as its a WC game it has even more importance- ranking wise and prestige wise than an away win!

Think it was 1979 when Ireland won in Australia against the Wallabies.

Biltong we're the same. It's why our teams are the two best in history. The sting of defeat is intolerable.

Oakey Eden Park looked like a home game for you lot to be honest

disneychilly wrote:Think it was 1979 when Ireland won in Australia against the Wallabies.

Biltong we're the same. It's why our teams are the two best in history. The sting of defeat is intolerable.

Are you also very angry, frustrated feel like you want to go onto the field and do it yourself when things go wrong?

Maybe I am a little over the top, I also refuse to watch the Springboks play with someone that doesn't know rugby and will somewhere along the line ask a stupid question or make a comment out of ignorance, I just want to the out of them. especially when my team is playing poorly.

Sometimes, though I am only 75 kilos so wanting to go out on the field and do it yourself moments are confined to when All Blacks mess up catching simple passes, kicking for touch or passing. I bet however gutted you were when Nonu got through Smit in Soweto that you wouldn't have wanted to tackle Ma'a in his stead!

Yeah I try and stay away from people that are ignorant and/or don't care in big games. I was with my mate's Irish gf in 07 and I had to tell her that if she gave me a sympathetic pat she'd lose her hand!

I dated a Zimbabwean with SA flatmates for a while and watched a couple of games with them. I shut up as we were winning and I was a guest (!) but the SA guys liked analysing what both teams were doing. I also find that if I offer educated tactical views on where the game was won and lost and what both teams should be doing instead of HAHA FU we won you suck I won't get lynched. It's more fun that way.

Yeah, we do tend to analyse the game quite a bit, but it is polite not to gloat anyway.

As far as Nonu goes, I wanted to smack smit against the head, but if I recollect it must have once again been Morne steyn missing a touch kick that should first of all not have been kicked, and not gone straight into the hands of a New Zealander intent on winning a match they shouldn't have.

Actually I was very impressed with Dagg for remembering the rules on that kick, spreading his legs putting one in touch whilst picking up the moving ball. Yes it was Steyn's kick. Though there was a forward pass in the buildup to McCaw's try.