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Post by beshocked Thu 05 Apr 2012, 10:06 pm

First topic message reminder :

This match needs a thread. I feel like this game has been brushed under the carpet by many.

Two of the teams on the rise.

The 2010-11 Aviva Premiership champions vs the 2009-10 Top 14 champions.

Both 2nd respectively in their domestic leagues.

Both with a fair few players who featured in the 6 nations.

Some very fascinating battles to look forward to such as Barritt vs Fofana, Strettle vs Malzieu, Goode vs Byrne, Borthwick vs Hines, Farrell vs Rougerie etc.

There is so much class in the Clermont squad but if Parra doesn't play what do they do at scrum half?

I feel that if Saracens are to win they need Brits and Joubert in particular to fire on all cylinders and Barritt to shut down the Clermont attack.

If Parra is injured they need to put as much pressure as possible on the Clermont halfbacks.

Thoughts?

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Post by nathan Sun 08 Apr 2012, 4:56 pm

did stevens just win a pen!!!! wow lol

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 08 Apr 2012, 4:57 pm

nathan wrote:
trebellbobaggins wrote:Oh god, like Quins the other day another English team are getting buried.

I worry ths our prem is just too weak, nobody is good enough at the mo.

which is the same after every world cup....

It's impressive the young side we we building when we have no really good sides at the mo. let's hope they can fix it.

I actually hope the French sides start to go bust and level the playing field as nobody can match their pie in the sky money at the mo.

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Post by LondonTiger Sun 08 Apr 2012, 4:57 pm

nathan wrote:did stevens just win a pen!!!! wow lol

Like christmas it comes but once a year.

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Post by nathan Sun 08 Apr 2012, 4:58 pm

LondonTiger wrote:
nathan wrote:did stevens just win a pen!!!! wow lol

Like christmas it comes but once a year.

laughing

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Post by eirebilly Sun 08 Apr 2012, 4:59 pm

Superb kick clap
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Post by Guest Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:00 pm

haven't noticed the off the ball stuff myself Billy.

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Post by eirebilly Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:00 pm

And an even better one...
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Post by Guest Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:01 pm

wow, what a kick by James!

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Post by eirebilly Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:02 pm

rugbydreamer wrote:haven't noticed the off the ball stuff myself Billy.

Just keep your eye on Farrell. There has been a little even the French commentary have said it
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Post by nathan Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:03 pm

eirebilly wrote:
rugbydreamer wrote:haven't noticed the off the ball stuff myself Billy.

Just keep your eye on Farrell. There has been a little even the French commentary have said it

do you mean illegal of the ball stuff?

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Post by Guest Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:04 pm

Farrell's eyes aren't as bad as Mieres'. His really freak me out.

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Post by nathan Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:04 pm

at least you can tell cudmore isn't french as he's not rolling around the floor.

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Post by nathan Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:05 pm

Risca Rev wrote:Farrell's eyes aren't as bad as Mieres'. His really freak me out.

Mylers for NH are pretty bad too, looks like he should be licking windows.

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Post by eirebilly Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:05 pm

nathan wrote:
eirebilly wrote:
rugbydreamer wrote:haven't noticed the off the ball stuff myself Billy.

Just keep your eye on Farrell. There has been a little even the French commentary have said it

do you mean illegal of the ball stuff?

Yes, there has been a bit. The French commentators have said that it appears as if they are trying to rough him up to put him off his game
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Post by Artful_Dodger Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:05 pm

Jamie Cudmores brother is Colossus in the X-Men apparently.

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Post by nathan Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:06 pm

eirebilly wrote:
nathan wrote:
eirebilly wrote:
rugbydreamer wrote:haven't noticed the off the ball stuff myself Billy.

Just keep your eye on Farrell. There has been a little even the French commentary have said it

do you mean illegal of the ball stuff?

Yes, there has been a bit. The French commentators have said that it appears as if they are trying to rough him up to put him off his game

ah i see, always wondered why the captain doesn't mention these things to the ref. He might look out for it then.

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Post by eirebilly Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:07 pm

Farrell also threw a punch so he hasnt been that affected LOL
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Post by eirebilly Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:11 pm

Hodgson Sad
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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:11 pm

Blatant blocking ignored, good old frenchy Rolland as bad as ever.

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Post by nathan Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:11 pm

really not going well for sarries today, very sloppy play by them.

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Post by Guest Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:12 pm

got to say, this has been the most enjoyable QF of the weekend to watch so far.

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Post by nathan Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:12 pm

trebellbobaggins wrote:Blatant blocking ignored, good old frenchy Rolland as bad as ever.

surely the touch judge should of seen it...

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Post by eirebilly Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:13 pm

rugbydreamer wrote:got to say, this has been the most enjoyable QF of the weekend to watch so far.

Headscratch
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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:15 pm

nathan wrote:
trebellbobaggins wrote:Blatant blocking ignored, good old frenchy Rolland as bad as ever.

surely the touch judge should of seen it...

The sky guys saw it but the touchies didn't it seems.

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Post by nathan Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:15 pm

stevens lucky to get that!! neither had a bind!

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Post by nathan Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:16 pm

trebellbobaggins wrote:
nathan wrote:
trebellbobaggins wrote:Blatant blocking ignored, good old frenchy Rolland as bad as ever.

surely the touch judge should of seen it...

The sky guys saw it but the touchies didn't it seems.

well they probably have a better view!!

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Post by eirebilly Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:17 pm

Sarries still very much in this Smile

Only in France can players get interviewed on their way to the dressing rooms at half time.
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Post by Guest Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:18 pm

eirebilly wrote:
rugbydreamer wrote:got to say, this has been the most enjoyable QF of the weekend to watch so far.

Headscratch

why Headscratch ?

Some great runs by both sets of backs, really high paced game, am really enjoying it!

Mun v Uls and Edi v Tou were great but for other reasons, more tense and nervy then this one. And the Leinster one was too one sided for me Smile

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Post by eirebilly Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:20 pm

Ok, i think that its been rather ordinary if i may be honest dreamer. All 3 other matches have had much more in them. The headscratch was a bit rude so i apologise OK
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Post by Guest Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:21 pm

I think it's because I'm more of a neutral in this one Billy, don't really have anything invested in it.

there's been some lovely bits of skill, and I feel it's more end to end then any of the others.

Shows how differently we can all see games I guess! Smile

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Post by eirebilly Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:22 pm

Just admit that you're wrong and i am right dreamer and we can all move forward Wink
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Post by nathan Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:23 pm

Girlfriend just mentioned that Will Greenwood sounds like Mathew Kelly. Didn't even cross my mind before but it does!!

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Post by eirebilly Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:31 pm

Ok, come on Sarries Very Happy
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Post by eirebilly Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:32 pm

What a dive by the Clermont player...
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Post by Guest Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:33 pm

eirebilly wrote:Just admit that you're wrong and i am right dreamer and we can all move forward Wink

Laugh no chance of that I'm afraid Wink

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Post by nathan Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:33 pm

oh come on parra!! lol

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Post by Artful_Dodger Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:34 pm

rofl @ Parra

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Post by eirebilly Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:34 pm

It was Parra taking the dive and even the Fench commentators are laughing about it.
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Post by Guest Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:35 pm

That dive by Parra was amazing

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Post by eirebilly Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:35 pm

Good try by Clermont clap
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Post by nathan Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:35 pm

eirebilly wrote:It was Parra taking the dive and even the Fench commentators are laughing about it.

what annoys the hell out of me is nothing is done about it. the ref's job is hard enough as it is. He should of been binned.

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Post by Looseheaded Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:35 pm

Parra's a world class jeb. Should be some form of citing or punishment against this.

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Post by Guest Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:36 pm

waheeeey Lee Byrne!!

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Post by eirebilly Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:36 pm

nathan wrote:
eirebilly wrote:It was Parra taking the dive and even the Fench commentators are laughing about it.

what annoys the hell out of me is nothing is done about it. the ref's job is hard enough as it is. He should of been binned.

It was shocking, really they should look at this as well. Its the height of bad sportsmanship.
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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:36 pm

Well that's sealed it. Shame but English rugby needs a long hard rethink I think.

Dumped out of every level in Europe, not even able to compete in the challenge cup now the French have woken up to it. Dark times ahead.

But Lancaster showed home grown talent is there in the kids, so where is it going wrong?


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Post by Feckless Rogue Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:37 pm

Why did the IRFU prevent Leinster from re-signing Hines? He's class. The fact that we've brought in an equally foreign and even older Brad Thorn now, makes it even more baffling.
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Post by eirebilly Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:40 pm

Good DG, it has to be said


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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:40 pm

It was, it's a mauling,

These guys will be tough for Leinster at home.

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Post by eirebilly Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:43 pm

Sarries need points here
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Post by nathan Sun 08 Apr 2012, 5:45 pm

eirebilly wrote:
nathan wrote:
eirebilly wrote:It was Parra taking the dive and even the Fench commentators are laughing about it.

what annoys the hell out of me is nothing is done about it. the ref's job is hard enough as it is. He should of been binned.

It was shocking, really they should look at this as well. Its the height of bad sportsmanship.

i hope he gets cited.

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