England vs India - third ODI

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So here we go again, England have won the toss and decided to bowl first, Cook feeling it isn't easy to defend a score here at the Oval. England make the one change, with Trott coming back into the side for Samit Patel, while India make two changes: Jadeja in for Tiwary to strengthen their bowling, and R.P. Singh for Vinay Kumar.

England team
AN Cook*, C Kieswetter†, IJL Trott, IR Bell, RS Bopara, BA Stokes, TT Bresnan, GP Swann, SCJ Broad, JM Anderson, JW Dernbach

India team
AM Rahane, PA Patel, R Dravid, V Kohli, SK Raina, MS Dhoni*†, RA Jadeja, R Ashwin, P Kumar, MM Patel, RP Singh

Surprised Aaron still not given a go...

So was Jimmy on fire earlier or was it poor batting from India?

Ravindra Jadeja is been unfairly targeted by a section of the Indian supporters for a couple of poor performances in the T-20i games. His inability to hit the long ball at the death also hurt his chances in the past. But since his axing from the side, he has worked on his fitness, and is a stronger player, physically and mentaly.
He was one of the bright spots for KTK in the IPL last season, with bat and ball.

Fascinating stuff: Swanny clearly has realised that Jadeja's uncomfortable off his legs, so he's bowling a much straighter line than he normally would, and it takes Jadeja four balls to get off strike. Canny bowler is Graeme Swann...

eirebilly wrote:So was Jimmy on fire earlier or was it poor batting from India?

bit of both, all wickets were good balls, but only Rahane blameless in his shot selection

the last eight overs have yielded just 18 runs, England pegging India back again

Looks a good pitch this now.

India wise to have that extra bowler.

Yerah true Chelsea, sort of surprising as it looks nice.

Jadeja looks rather knackered out there, not used to playing long innings?

Hasn't played for a while has he

They are struggling to get the score bord going, and something will have to give way soon.
for god's sake, take the stupid powerplay while these 2 are around.

Mad for Chelsea wrote:

eirebilly wrote:So was Jimmy on fire earlier or was it poor batting from India?

bit of both, all wickets were good balls, but only Rahane blameless in his shot selection

Thanks mate, 200 is still a possibility though.

I still think this is in the balance... If Dhoni is there til the end we could still end up chasing 225+

Saying that Jade and Swanny are bowling very nicely

Decent recovery now - Dhoni and Jadeja have played sensibly.

But even if they hit out and plunder 50 odd off the last ten England will have a pretty easy target , given the pitch seems flat enough once the early life has gone. Kumar may nip it about early , but the rest of India's bowlers really don't present much threat.

2-0 I reckon...

Just one from Swanny's last over, and that's a pretty decent spell of 0-31 on a pitch which really didn't offer him much...

India by not taking th PP have allowed England to pretty much shuffle their bowlers as they wish in the last ten overs...

India have recovered well ,but i dont think we are pressuring them enough now

Anything over 200 will be a tricky target for England. This has been an oustanding 100 run partnerhip considering just how deep in trouble India were. Its good to see them fighting.

Jimmy back into the attack

oh i think 225 after the powerplay looks quite likely but you'd have taken that at the start of this surely.

at the oval you'd take 280.

eirebilly wrote:Anything over 200 will be a tricky target for England. This has been an oustanding 100 run partnerhip considering just how deep in trouble India were. Its good to see them fighting.

agreed. do you think 200 is par? bbc reckoned parr was way higher than that.

India in charge then you reckon, just?

India still not really going for it...

PP taken by India at last.

PP taken...

these two now have the highest 6th wicket partnership ever at the oval after india had their worst ever first ten.

they have quite possibly won the match for their team if Billy is right.

trebellbobaggins wrote:these two now have the highest 6th wicket partnership ever at the oval after india had their worst ever first ten.

they have quite possibly won the match for their team if Billy is right.

Nah, you have to remember that whatever the par score is, you can usually add a few to it with India's bowling anyway. And this is much better than a 200 pitch IMO. Fine over by Dernbach there, just three from it...

Why on earth should 200 - or 225 be a winning score here ?

Certainly there was some early life but since these two settled in there has been little enough help for the bowlers. I honestly can't see England having much trouble knocking off 220 or whatever.

Dhoni out ... 220 looks unlikely now...

Yes that's the one we wanted Dhoni out

Bresnan back, and Dhoni is gone first ball, hitting it straight up in the air and it's an easy catch for captain Cook at mid-off. Good knock by the Indian skipper, but both he and Jadeja have got badly bogged down in the last 10-15 overs or so...

Dhoni gone, India should just about get about 200.

Fighting 50 from Ravindra Jadeja. He may not have set the world on fire in this knock, but a valuable contribution nevertheless.
Now he'll have to bat through, as MSD finds the filder atempting a big one. Ravichandran Ashwin's the new man.

see as soon as they try to go for it they blow it. the steady approach that got the hundred was unexciting but it worked. had dhoni hit out earlier he'd have gone earlier.

hope eng watch and learn.

agreed alfie but Billy thinks 200 is a challenge here. Seems to me the early conditions have gone and it's flat but we might be proved wrong by Kumar.

there's nothing exciting about Bresnan's death bowling, but it's full, it's straight and it's very hard to get away. I feel him and Dernbach complement each other very nicely in the last few overs of an innings.

I think that anything above 200 will be tricky trebbs but not unchaseable looking at the conditions. Lets not forget that India are the best in the world at ODI's so they know how to close out and win tight ODI matches.

Not sure on Dernache. Looked fairly poor again today.

This talk fo the new Gough is way premature.

I think Billy is having a touch of the trebells there

One would never have gone broke betting on England making a meal of ODI chases in recent years , but I would be astonished if they were to mess this up against such a modest Indian attack. Batting is looking fairly easy now.

Jade Dernbach at the death is very overrated.

Dreadful over from Dernbach, his lines and lengths all wrong, and India pick up 19 from it

the sky cameras spend a hell of a lot more time on the india than eng supporters in this series.. cutting to them going mental after every ball. they didn't seem to do that for engs fans when they were winning the other day sadly.

i do think our fans could learn a lot. they were very quiet early but going insane now.

i guess it's a lucrative area so they want to serve them well.

Mad for Chelsea wrote:Dreadful over from Dernbach, his lines and lengths all wrong, and India pick up 19 from it

it was dire.. shows he is a rookie.

initiave with india now. Shooting past the Billy win mark of 200.

if at the start you'd say "chase 220", eng would have felt they'd done ok in the field.

Yeah they really hexed Dernbach with that article didn't they ? Taken a bit of hammer in the last couple of games - that last over going for 19!

alfie wrote:I think Billy is having a touch of the trebells there

One would never have gone broke betting on England making a meal of ODI chases in recent years , but I would be astonished if they were to mess this up against such a modest Indian attack. Batting is looking fairly easy now.

Now that you say it........... I have turned into trebbs

England losing the plot

Get Anderson/Broad on.

200 and three overs to go

Well done Jadeja and Ashwin .

Another horror over like Derbach's last and we could be chasing 240 ...

However let's not get over-excited here, even 225 is I feel well below par on this pitch, especially against this Indian bowling attack...

At last this game will be competitive.

Jimmy has the wrong field here. Jadeja is an off side player for heavens sake !

this is quite remarkable, the last three overs have gone for 44, and it's hardly like Jadeja and Ashwin are the two biggest hitters in the world, shocking bowling from England I'm afraid...

england need a good shouting at over that awful pp.

they handed this game back to india. very very poor.

looks a good batting track but the billy score says 200 is beyond them so they really need to look at their pp bowling.

42 off the last 3 overs. Well done India

Yes it should be a good contest now