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Post by LondonTiger Mon 09 Sep 2019, 12:10 pm

First topic message reminder :

TeamPlayedWonDrawnLostTriesPFPA+/-BPPoints
Japan330098741+46214
Ireland3201117422+52311
Scotland320113982771210
Samoa310275381-2815
Russia3003119125-10600


Japan 30-10 Russia              
Ireland 27-3 Scotland  
Russia 9-34 Samoa                        
Japan 19-12 Ireland                          
Scotland 34-0 Samoa
Ireland 35-0 Russia
Japan 38-19 Samoa
Scotland 61-0 Russia
 

                                       
                     
12 October 2019         Ireland v Samoa                         Fukuoka Hakatanomori Stadium, Fukuoka
13 October 2019         Japan v Scotland                         International Stadium Yokohama, Yokohama


Two games left. If Ireland get a TBP win on Saturday they qualify for the quarter finals irrespective of the result on Sunday. Any other result and they need to wait and see what happens between Japan and Scotland.
Any win for Japan and they will top the group (in fact a draw or losing with two bonus points will guarantee the same)
Most interesting scenario is if Ireland win without a bonus point - opening up a chance for Scotland to top the group if all 3 teams end up on 15pts and Scotland are able to keep their points difference ahead of Ireland.


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Post by LondonTiger Wed 18 Sep 2019, 9:28 am

JAPAN 

1 Keita Inagaki
2 Shota Horie
3 Asaeli Ai Valu
4 Wimpie van der Walt
5 James Moore
6 Michael Leitch (capt.)
7 Pieter Labuschagne
8 Kazuki Himeno
9 Yutaka Nagare
10 Yu Tamura
11 Lomano Lava Lemeki
12 Ryoto Nakamura
13 Timothy Lafaele
14 Kotaro Matsushima
15 William Tupou

16 Atsushi Sakate
17 Isileli Nakajima
18 Jiwon Koo
19 Luke Thompson
20 Hendrik Tui
21 Fumiaki Tanaka
22 Rikiya Matsuda
23 Ryohei Yamanaka

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Post by Collapse2005 Wed 18 Sep 2019, 9:33 am

Hang on there is a guy called Wimpie van der Walt? That has to be the best name at the RWC or maybe the guy from Namibia who has an exclamation mark in his name, Prince ǃGaoseb.

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Post by BamBam Wed 18 Sep 2019, 9:47 am

Collapse2005 wrote:Hang on there is a guy called Wimpie van der Walt? That has to be the best name at the RWC or maybe the guy from Namibia who has an exclamation mark in his name, Prince ǃGaoseb.

Reminds me of one of my favourite comedians from years past https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4okFm62gxk

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Post by tigertattie Wed 18 Sep 2019, 12:00 pm

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Collapse2005 wrote:Hang on there is a guy called Wimpie van der Walt? That has to be the best name at the RWC or maybe the guy from Namibia who has an exclamation mark in his name, Prince ǃGaoseb.

Reminds me of one of my favourite comedians from years past https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4okFm62gxk

Trevor Noah is better. I beleive his Mum is a from a branch of Bhantu speaking Xhosa people. He sings a song with clicks and its strangly melodic

https://vimeo.com/313627459
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Post by Tramptastic Wed 18 Sep 2019, 12:08 pm

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BamBam wrote:
Collapse2005 wrote:Hang on there is a guy called Wimpie van der Walt? That has to be the best name at the RWC or maybe the guy from Namibia who has an exclamation mark in his name, Prince ǃGaoseb.

Reminds me of one of my favourite comedians from years past https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4okFm62gxk

Trevor Noah is better. I beleive his Mum is a from a branch of Bhantu speaking Xhosa people. He sings a song with clicks and its strangly melodic

https://vimeo.com/313627459

Did you see Sbu N'kosi's try against Argentina that had Xhosa commentary? The commentary was absolutely fantastic, much better than our usual guff!

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Post by tigertattie Wed 18 Sep 2019, 12:18 pm

Tramptastic wrote:
tigertattie wrote:
BamBam wrote:
Collapse2005 wrote:Hang on there is a guy called Wimpie van der Walt? That has to be the best name at the RWC or maybe the guy from Namibia who has an exclamation mark in his name, Prince ǃGaoseb.

Reminds me of one of my favourite comedians from years past https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4okFm62gxk

Trevor Noah is better. I beleive his Mum is a from a branch of Bhantu speaking Xhosa people. He sings a song with clicks and its strangly melodic

https://vimeo.com/313627459

Did you see Sbu N'kosi's try against Argentina that had Xhosa commentary? The commentary was absolutely fantastic, much better than our usual guff!

That would be great to listen to.

I also love the South American foot commentary. I swear one of thos guys are going to give themselves a heart attack on air one day!
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Post by Old Man Wed 18 Sep 2019, 12:33 pm

Some tries with Xhosa commentary

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Post by Old Man Wed 18 Sep 2019, 12:35 pm

More Xhosa commentary

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Post by maestegmafia Fri 20 Sep 2019, 11:48 am

Good start by the ruskies

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Post by Duty281 Fri 20 Sep 2019, 11:53 am

Japan look a bit nervous.

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Post by maestegmafia Fri 20 Sep 2019, 11:54 am

Try Russia...!

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Post by Guest Fri 20 Sep 2019, 11:54 am

Jeepers, wake up Japan

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Post by maestegmafia Fri 20 Sep 2019, 11:55 am

Looks like Lyn Jones has done some good work in Russia

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Post by LondonTiger Fri 20 Sep 2019, 11:55 am

Worst attempt to catch a ball ever?

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Post by maestegmafia Fri 20 Sep 2019, 12:00 pm

Good work by the Japanese, resulting in a try too

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Post by maestegmafia Fri 20 Sep 2019, 12:07 pm

Really good game so far... Russia looking surprisingly good in the first quarter.

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Post by LondonTiger Fri 20 Sep 2019, 12:12 pm

Japan look too frantic, Russia extremely naive. They could have been penalised at every breakdown pretty much. They look athletic but with little rugby nous.

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Post by maestegmafia Fri 20 Sep 2019, 12:17 pm

Nigel’s call of “yews” seems to be very quick. I thought the player was allowed 5 seconds to clear the ball?

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Post by maestegmafia Fri 20 Sep 2019, 12:20 pm

LondonTiger wrote:Japan look too frantic, Russia extremely naive. They could have been penalised at every breakdown pretty much. They look athletic but with little rugby nous.

First game nerves, Russia’s biggest game ever. We can cut them all some slack.

Russian centres are tearing through the Japs Backline with ease...

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Post by maestegmafia Fri 20 Sep 2019, 12:22 pm

This is a team ranked 10th vs the team ranked 20th. So far there is little between them which is a superb advert for the future of the game.

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Post by Duty281 Fri 20 Sep 2019, 12:25 pm

Japan not exactly playing like the 1/500 favourites they were pre-match! So many handling errors and poor kicking out of hand. Really warming to the Russians, they're giving this a proper go.

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Post by LondonTiger Fri 20 Sep 2019, 12:27 pm

maestegmafia wrote:This is a team ranked 10th vs the team ranked 20th. So far there is little between them which is a superb advert for the future of the game.

Russia are giving this there all, but we are still talking about a team that was thrashed by Italy and lost to Jersey. Japan are largely architects of their own woes right now, aided by some weird decisions from the ref.

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Post by maestegmafia Fri 20 Sep 2019, 12:27 pm

Duty281 wrote:Japan not exactly playing like the 1/500 favourites they were pre-match! So many handling errors and poor kicking out of hand. Really warming to the Russians, they're giving this a proper go.

Considering they are the lowest ranked nation in Japan they are playing a good game.

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Post by TightHEAD Fri 20 Sep 2019, 12:33 pm

That was a try for me, he kept in contact with the ball and grounded it.
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Post by BigGee Fri 20 Sep 2019, 12:34 pm

Japan making right hard work if this so far, but you expect they may well pull away later on

Nothing much for Ireland or Scotland to be worried about so far. Japan clearly got the nerves though and are likely to improve with some game time.

Samoa unlikely to be to scared about either of these teams on this showing either

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Post by maestegmafia Fri 20 Sep 2019, 12:38 pm

LondonTiger wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:This is a team ranked 10th vs the team ranked 20th. So far there is little between them which is a superb advert for the future of the game.

Russia are giving this there all, but we are still talking about a team that was thrashed by Italy and lost to Jersey. Japan are largely architects of their own woes right now, aided by some weird decisions from the ref.

In the same vein England thrashed Ireland by more than they thrashed Italy, you wouldn’t conclude from that that Italy are a superior team to Ireland. There have been far too many variables in warm ups to base how good teams are due to selections and where each team are as a squad when they play a match

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Post by BigGee Fri 20 Sep 2019, 12:40 pm

A better try, Japsn definitely got the legs out wide if they can use them

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Post by maestegmafia Fri 20 Sep 2019, 12:42 pm

Loving the lads dressed as Russian cosmonauts in the crowd

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Post by SecretFly Fri 20 Sep 2019, 12:42 pm

These Japanese lads are hard on the gas. Hope they have a tanker waiting for the rest of the pool.

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Post by Brendan Fri 20 Sep 2019, 12:42 pm

Russia doing well with European tactics

Japan should have got a yellow for the tackle on the 9 (that was no attempt to wrap) that resulted in the 9 getting a HIA.

Japan are much better going forward but not dealing with the pressure at all.  Until they settle their nerves Russia will stay with them.

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Post by Old Man Fri 20 Sep 2019, 12:42 pm

Japan should break the dam wall at the 60 minute mark, the Russians are sucking deep breaths out there

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Post by TightHEAD Fri 20 Sep 2019, 12:44 pm

Unless the Russians are faking it, drug tests all round if they win this.
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Post by TightHEAD Fri 20 Sep 2019, 12:46 pm

I love how Japan play, they did this at the MS a couple of years back, speed speed speed. Brilliant example to all teams.
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Post by SecretFly Fri 20 Sep 2019, 12:47 pm

TightHEAD wrote:Unless the Russians are faking it, drug tests all round if they win this.

I'll make things easy for you, Tight..... they won't.

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Post by Brendan Fri 20 Sep 2019, 12:47 pm

TightHEAD wrote:Unless the Russians are faking it, drug tests all round if they win this.

Not really they are a big like you expect from eastern Europe.

They have two professional teams who have done alright in Europe except last year


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Post by SecretFly Fri 20 Sep 2019, 12:48 pm

TightHEAD wrote:I love how Japan play, they did this at the MS a couple of years back, speed speed speed. Brilliant example to all teams.

Drug tests all round if they keep it up.

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Post by BigGee Fri 20 Sep 2019, 12:48 pm

They won't win any serious games making this many mistakes though.

I expect if you can slow then down sufficiently they will struggle as well

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Post by maestegmafia Fri 20 Sep 2019, 12:49 pm

TightHEAD wrote:Unless the Russians are faking it, drug tests all round if they win this.

Very strange comment TH, credit where it’s due Russia are playing a good game.

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Post by Old Man Fri 20 Sep 2019, 12:49 pm

I think nerves are high n this opener, they should settle soon

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Post by Brendan Fri 20 Sep 2019, 12:52 pm

maestegmafia wrote:
TightHEAD wrote:Unless the Russians are faking it, drug tests all round if they win this.

Very strange comment TH, credit where it’s due Russia are playing a good game.

Anyone who has bothered to watch T2 rugby knows the Russians were going to be physical. They have good players who can play well enough. They don't have speed

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Post by TightHEAD Fri 20 Sep 2019, 12:56 pm

maestegmafia wrote:
TightHEAD wrote:Unless the Russians are faking it, drug tests all round if they win this.

Very strange comment TH, credit where it’s due Russia are playing a good game.

Really, did you miss all the Olympic drug tests?

Strange comment to ping back to be honest, Russia don't do taking part, they have to win at all costs.
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Post by SecretFly Fri 20 Sep 2019, 1:00 pm

TightHEAD wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:
TightHEAD wrote:Unless the Russians are faking it, drug tests all round if they win this.

Very strange comment TH, credit where it’s due Russia are playing a good game.

Really, did you miss all the Olympic drug tests?

Strange comment to ping back to be honest, Russia don't do taking part, they have to win at all costs.

Or maybe they're just the ones designed to be 'caught'? Politics, Putin, Bad, Bad Russia and all that jazz.


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Post by maestegmafia Fri 20 Sep 2019, 1:02 pm

TightHEAD wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:
TightHEAD wrote:Unless the Russians are faking it, drug tests all round if they win this.

Very strange comment TH, credit where it’s due Russia are playing a good game.

Really, did you miss all the Olympic drug tests?

Strange comment to ping back to be honest, Russia don't do taking part, they have to win at all costs.

So you accuse all Russians of cheating, of taking performance enhancing drugs to win at all costs?

I’m not convinced they are still in the match because of drug taking, more like their higher turn over rate and Japanese mistakes...

From a libel point of view probably an opinion best kept to yourself.

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Post by Brendan Fri 20 Sep 2019, 1:04 pm

TightHEAD wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:
TightHEAD wrote:Unless the Russians are faking it, drug tests all round if they win this.

Very strange comment TH, credit where it’s due Russia are playing a good game.

Really, did you miss all the Olympic drug tests?

Strange comment to ping back to be honest, Russia don't do taking part, they have to win at all costs.

I guess like a certain tennis player and long distance runner who only met with a doctor who gave out illegal stuff but not to them.

The Russians have been a top T2 team for 10 years get over yourself. Japan are beating themselves but Russia have shown over the last few years they are Simillar level to the rest off the B6Ns and all the other T2 countries around the world.

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Post by Brendan Fri 20 Sep 2019, 1:05 pm

SecretFly wrote:
TightHEAD wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:
TightHEAD wrote:Unless the Russians are faking it, drug tests all round if they win this.

Very strange comment TH, credit where it’s due Russia are playing a good game.

Really, did you miss all the Olympic drug tests?

Strange comment to ping back to be honest, Russia don't do taking part, they have to win at all costs.

Or maybe they're just the ones designed to be 'caught'?  Politics, Putin, Bad, Bad Russia and all that jazz.


It is funny how China, Kenya and Jamaica all had issues but they were fine

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Post by maestegmafia Fri 20 Sep 2019, 1:08 pm

Great solo rip and score by Moore

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Post by TightHEAD Fri 20 Sep 2019, 1:10 pm

maestegmafia wrote:

So you accuse all Russians of cheating, of taking performance enhancing drugs to win at all costs?

There is a fair bit of evidence to suggest they do in the public domain, who remembers the Romanians during the 80s. lol
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Post by maestegmafia Fri 20 Sep 2019, 1:11 pm

Great scrum by Russia there

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Post by TightHEAD Fri 20 Sep 2019, 1:12 pm

Japan are going to cause problems for Ireland and Scotland if the conditions are right.
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Post by Old Man Fri 20 Sep 2019, 1:16 pm

Japanese ten is kicking very poorly

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