Another Drive4show 'Anything goes' thread

by pedro Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:17 am

First topic message reminder :

Corbyn I guess.

by puligny Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:07 pm

It was noticeable that he didn't hold Trudeau's hand in the same circumstances. Obviously resolved his fear of steps, or whatever it was! You're right - she kept a low profile, in theory a remainer, but who really knows?

by Diggers Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:19 pm

The irony of the modern world, people like Labour policies but apparently they are an unelectable party. Tory policy generally poorly received, for example the NI farce, but apparently utter nonentities like May and Hammond are deemed to be safe hands.
I genuinely don't think this Govt has a clue about Brexit, the hard Brexit line is just posturing while they dither over what kind of deal they actually want.

by Be_the_ball Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:02 pm

I see the Dutch have rejected Wilders, thank feck for that!

by **navyblueshorts** Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:39 pm

Be_the_ball wrote:I see the Dutch have rejected Wilders, thank feck for that!

Quite! By quite a margin as well, given what people were predicting might happen...

by Roller_Coaster Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:54 am

puligny wrote:It was noticeable that he didn't hold Trudeau's hand in the same circumstances. Obviously resolved his fear of steps, or whatever it was! You're right - she kept a low profile, in theory a remainer, but who really knows?

He's apparently on the 12 step plan, really struggled on 5, 6, 7, 8...

Tragedy really.

Run

by raycastleunited Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:54 pm

Roller_Coaster wrote:
puligny wrote:It was noticeable that he didn't hold Trudeau's hand in the same circumstances. Obviously resolved his fear of steps, or whatever it was! You're right - she kept a low profile, in theory a remainer, but who really knows?

He's apparently on the 12 step plan, really struggled on 5, 6, 7, 8...

Tragedy really.

Terrible Roller. Better best forgotten

by **navyblueshorts** Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:59 pm

Roller_Coaster wrote:
puligny wrote:It was noticeable that he didn't hold Trudeau's hand in the same circumstances. Obviously resolved his fear of steps, or whatever it was! You're right - she kept a low profile, in theory a remainer, but who really knows?

He's apparently on the 12 step plan, really struggled on 5, 6, 7, 8...

Tragedy really.

Very droll

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by Roller_Coaster Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:19 am

raycastleunited wrote:
Roller_Coaster wrote:
puligny wrote:It was noticeable that he didn't hold Trudeau's hand in the same circumstances. Obviously resolved his fear of steps, or whatever it was! You're right - she kept a low profile, in theory a remainer, but who really knows?

He's apparently on the 12 step plan, really struggled on 5, 6, 7, 8...

Tragedy really.

Terrible Roller. Better best forgotten

by kwinigolfer Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:05 pm

Widely believed this character is now running the United States, and is presumably the facilitator of Farage's relationship with Drumpf.

What sort of profile do he and his daughter have in GB&I?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Mercer_(businessman)

by super_realist Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:22 pm

Good effort by May today, telling the SNP to get knotted. See what happens when Brexit is decided instead.

Kwini, I don't think anyone in the UK has ever heard of Mercer.

by kwinigolfer Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:28 pm

super,
Perhaps that's the point; hardly anyone in the U.S. has heard of him either, but his work with analyitics outfits is directly focussed in identifying vulnerable voters and targetting them, directly or indirectly, relentlessly. And, in the US, inserting his own people to do his political bidding.

by McLaren Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:33 pm

Super

You are the first person I have come across who is a fan of May. You do hold some odd political opinions for a guy raised in working class fife.

Kwini

The new fuhrer of the United states of Breitbart?

by super_realist Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:36 pm

I'm not a fan of May in the slightest Mac, I simply think denying a referendum until the Brexit situation has been sorted is common sense. I haven't praised her or her party in any other way for anything else they've done.

Also, what makes you think I was brought up in the working class area of Fife? The St.Andrews area is very affluent, it's only areas like Leven, Glenrothes, Dunfermline, Kirkcaldy and other southern areas of Fife which are the working class areas of the county.

by McLaren Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:40 pm

Please tell me you aren't one of those posh Scottish types?

by kwinigolfer Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:49 pm

Seems he might have his fingers in the GB&NI pie as well, Mac.

If these guys have their way, there'll be a 21st Century civil war here. They're evil. Watch out. Drumpf looking increasingly like a pawn in the game, trojan horse du jour.

by Be_the_ball Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:50 pm

We are well and truely into the era of big data analytics. The amount of information people put on social media is insane, I wonder if there will be a move back toward privacy, and what the reaction of those that benefit from harvesting peoples information will be.

by super_realist Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:50 pm

You mean pink trousers and a tweed jacket? No, I'm not.

I'm not posh, but I'm not working class either.

by super_realist Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:53 pm

Be_the_ball wrote:We are well and truely into the era of big data analytics. The amount of information people put on social media is insane, I wonder if there will be a move back toward privacy, and what the reaction of those that benefit from harvesting peoples information will be.

I can't see that BTB, information is too readily available that Pandora's box is already wide open. Even supermarkets know a huge amount about us on the basis of what we buy, when we buy it and in conjunction with what.

I don't begrudge people using information that's freely or legally available or volunteered, but it's when it comes to obtaining information illegally where you have a problem.

by Be_the_ball Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:07 pm

Just read his Wiki there Kwini, worrying.

by Be_the_ball Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:27 pm

There are many undoubted benefits to it Super, but I don't think most people realise how much of their privacy they are giving up and what it can be used for. Like targeted advertising or targeted manipulation like Kwini's talking about.

by super_realist Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:29 pm

I see what you're saying BTB, I just don't people are willing to give up the things from which their data is obtained.

I don't have a problem with targeted advertising. I'd rather see an advert for something I might be interested in than something I wasn't, I still don't have to buy it.

by I'm never wrong Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:04 pm

Be_the_ball wrote:We are well and truely into the era of big data analytics. The amount of information people put on social media is insane, I wonder if there will be a move back toward privacy, and what the reaction of those that benefit from harvesting peoples information will be.

Read an article today giving a suggested reason as to why Google is into driverless cars. It's to give information as to who drives past businesses to those businesses.

by Be_the_ball Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:10 pm

Exactly Super, most people don't realise they are the product though.

by Be_the_ball Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:33 pm

Also more and more people are consuming ALL their online content through social media, this means everything they consume online is controlled, news, politics, opinion, you name it. Their view of the world, influenced by their FB feed. Scarey.

by super_realist Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:35 pm

I'm not sure if most people realise their every move is tracked. You can see exactly where you've been in the last few years on google maps (if you took your phone with you)

Doesn't bother me particularly, but some people can be a bit funny about that sort of things.

by Diggers Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:24 pm

The problem I have with targeted advertising is the time it seems to go on for. I usually either buy a product or decide not to, once that decision is made I have zero interest in the products, which makes the ads fairly tedious.

by Diggers Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:58 pm

Trump throws his toys again, must be tough having to negotiate with someone about 80 times smarter than you. What an utter d!ck that bloke is.

by Diggers Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:40 pm

I don't personally care how much money Osborne earns, but seriously, to stay as an MP and pretend you give any kind of toss about your constituency (forgetting conflicts of interest), is an utter joke.

by Be_the_ball Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:12 pm

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-39301901

Targeted advertising is the least of our worries.

by raycastleunited Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:16 pm

Apprently Norway is the happiest place on earth: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-39325206

Denmark 2nd place.

by super_realist Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:19 pm

Not a surprise.

by MontysMerkin Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:03 pm

Socialist paradise... Run

by super_realist Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:12 pm

MontysMerkin wrote:Socialist paradise...

People always jump to that conclusion, it's actually a Conservative coalition. You'd hate it there Monty.

by kwinigolfer Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:22 pm

Some of the stats that show why Scandinavians might be most contented with their lot should constitute salutary lessons to bling economies - surprised that US beats UK; didn't realise McLaren had so much influence.

by Diggers Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:12 pm

I'm forever hearing how depressed the Danes are, it's a pretty dreary looking place as well, bit like the north east of England to be honest. I'm not sure anyone is actually that happy about where they live these days, troubled times and lots of conflict.

by raycastleunited Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:16 pm

Also good to see Sweden in the top 10 despite the hoardes of immigrants rapingand pillaging the locals.

by super_realist Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:19 pm

Diggers wrote:I'm forever hearing how depressed the Danes are, it's a pretty dreary looking place as well, bit like the north east of England to be honest. I'm not sure anyone is actually that happy about where they live these days, troubled times and lots of conflict.

Denmark is pretty dreary in terms of countryside it's more like Lincolnshire than the NE, but Copenhagen is a fantastic place, and if you're a heterosexual male, then you've probably got a very good reason to be incredibly happy. I'm sure Mac would say the same for the male population also being good looking.

by Diggers Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:54 pm

I've been to Copenhagen, it was cool, no more interesting than a stack of other cities though.

by puligny Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:57 pm

Now what has Norway got going for it? Largest sovereign wealth fund per capita on the planet, and "liberal" political policies. Oh and access - paid for - to the EU single market.

by super_realist Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:59 pm

Perhaps Diggers, I've probably been there about 20 times though, so know it better than most, so it ranks more highly for me.

I agree though, many cities in Europe are probably comparable, which is maybe why European countries rate so highly in the happiness table and Britain and the US fared less well.

by Diggers Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:12 pm

Always good when you know a place well Super, I used to do some work in LA and got taken out to lots of great places so have a soft spot for it.

by super_realist Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:15 pm

Diggers wrote:Always good when you know a place well Super, I used to do some work in LA and got taken out to lots of great places so have a soft spot for it.

Interesting Diggers, I've only been there once and thought the place a dump, goes to show how first impressions could be wrong.

by Diggers Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:29 pm

True, I used to hate Brighton when I lived in London. Now I live 5 miles away and know it well, I think it's great, though prefer to be just outside. I'd say the happiness rating around where I live would be good, other than having a complete tool of a Tory MP and far too much dog poo (both very similar issues in my book) I love it here.

by super_realist Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:45 pm

Mind you, it isn't always the case. I've been to Glasgow lots of times, and it doesn't get any better, it's a grimy, ugly, dirty turd of a city.

by Diggers Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:59 pm

Only been once as an adult, didn't se anything that would make me want to disagree with you.

by Diggers Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:01 pm

...but it was to go to the Commonwealth Ganes and I had a great time and the people were great...it is ugly though.

by McLaren Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:15 pm

super_realist wrote:I've been to Glasgow lots of times, and it doesn't get any better, it's a grimy, ugly, dirty turd of a city.

Glasgow has lots of great venues, restaurants, bars, museums etc but just has a really crappy atmosphere.

Diggers wrote:I'm not sure anyone is actually that happy about where they live these days, troubled times and lots of conflict.

I count myself lucky to have lived in two cities where it was obvious you were living a charmed existence.

by kwinigolfer Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:31 pm

Baghdad and Chicago??

by super_realist Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:33 am

McLaren wrote:
super_realist wrote:I've been to Glasgow lots of times, and it doesn't get any better, it's a grimy, ugly, dirty turd of a city.

Glasgow has lots of great venues, restaurants, bars, museums etc but just has a really crappy atmosphere.

Diggers wrote:I'm not sure anyone is actually that happy about where they live these days, troubled times and lots of conflict.

I count myself lucky to have lived in two cities where it was obvious you were living a charmed existence.

....and which cities were they Mac?

by McLaren Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:24 am

Anyone following the unmasking of the STP?

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