5000-1 - The 2016/17 Premier League thread

by **Crimey** Sun 06 Nov 2016, 3:39 pm

First topic message reminder :

Also, considering mine and pretty much everybody's doubts Mane has been a fantastic signing.

by Jermaine2015 Mon 14 Nov 2016, 1:51 pm

nadeem2099 wrote:Phil Jones would not make my list of top 20 current english centre backs.

That's a good job then isn't it? Mourinho will improve him

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon 14 Nov 2016, 4:08 pm

Its difficult, as on raw ability he may be better than many of those options, but there is little evidence in the last few years. He SHOULD be better than Tomkins, Keane, Dawson, Davies, Dann, Jagielka, but he needs to prove it.

Richards is cack.

by westisbest Mon 14 Nov 2016, 6:16 pm

He is cack, but I have respect for the guy for what he did at Wycombe away last season.

And he was a character as santa last year.

Wonder if he will be doing the same this year.

by Jermaine2015 Tue 15 Nov 2016, 5:43 pm

Once Jones plays a string of matches back to back under mourinho, his full potential will be revealed. Moyes and LvG didn't believe in Jones

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Fri 18 Nov 2016, 10:49 pm

"It is impossible to play good football if you don't make sex with your partner," said Guardiola.

the ex-Bayern Munich coach said: "I would never ban that. If you are doing it... better players."

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 19 Nov 2016, 1:11 pm

Antonio Valencia's dive the talking point of the game so far in a decent Man United vs Arsenal lunchtime kick off. United the better side

by Jermaine2015 Sat 19 Nov 2016, 1:59 pm

Herrera crosses and Mata slots home. The two Spanish players have been superb

by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 19 Nov 2016, 2:15 pm

Utd deserve to be ahead...

Arsenal fans shouldn't over react but it has been an abject display.

by Guest Sat 19 Nov 2016, 2:18 pm

1-1 Giroud

Awful sides

by Born Slippy Sat 19 Nov 2016, 2:20 pm

United look very good. Arsenal have been absolutely dreadful. Somehow it's 1-1!

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 19 Nov 2016, 2:24 pm

Man United played well then didnt mark Giroud when the ball was out wide.

by Jermaine2015 Sat 19 Nov 2016, 2:25 pm

Arsenal aren't contenders for anything.

by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 19 Nov 2016, 2:30 pm

Jermaine2015 wrote:Arsenal aren't contenders for anything.

Because of one game..

Utd fan are we ??...Bless.

by Jermaine2015 Sat 19 Nov 2016, 2:32 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Jermaine2015 wrote:Arsenal aren't contenders for anything.

Because of one game..

Utd fan are we ??...Bless.

I'm German and an FC Bayern fan...

by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 19 Nov 2016, 2:37 pm

You're over reacting...Jermaine

Good point for Arsenal..

Bollox to how they got it..

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 19 Nov 2016, 2:39 pm

Arsenal just turned up to a high pressure game once they couldnt win. It was typical Arsenal

by **Crimey** Sat 19 Nov 2016, 6:01 pm

The game today shows what Liverpool's weakness will be this season, rather than a leaky defence. It's teams with a good defence sitting back and squeezing the life out of the game. Unfortunate not to win in the end considering the quality of chances and I was disappointed in Klopp's lack of substitutions until so late in the game. Needed the changes earlier, particularly as Coutinho looked nackered. Also missed Lallana's creativity.

Van Djik may just be the best centre half in the division. I think he's superb, dream partnership is Van Djik and Matip, both tall, strong and fast whilst being comfortable with the ball.

by Guest Sat 19 Nov 2016, 6:02 pm

Van Dijk will be Kompany's replacement

by GSC Sat 19 Nov 2016, 7:01 pm

Not sure what Janssen does well yet

by GSC Sat 19 Nov 2016, 7:22 pm

*starts preparing popcorn*

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 19 Nov 2016, 7:35 pm

It's be read that script before, GSC. Havard Nordtveit so far going down as my least favourite West Ham player of all time

by Guest Sat 19 Nov 2016, 10:54 pm

You do wonder if City would be in a better position had their manager not been so petty.

by Fernando Mon 21 Nov 2016, 4:17 pm

Hector Bellerin signs new 6 and a half year deal at Arsenal.

by Guest Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:22 pm

how bad is this coutinho injury? Mane off to ACON too, so if PC is long term, that's the end of Liverpool

Pardew to be sacked

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:36 pm

Don't tell me that after a good start a Pardew team is fading away?!

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:40 pm

Pardew's lads are fighting! 3-3

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:43 pm

4-3 Palace! Bentekkers

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:49 pm

4-4!!

by Guest Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:50 pm

4-4

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:52 pm

Swansea 5
Crystal Palace 4

by Guest Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:55 pm

Pardew must be teetering.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:57 pm

Pardew was winning the sack race. Then Bradley took over, but now Pards is back!

Llorente may have made his odd transfer worthwhile

by Guest Sat 26 Nov 2016, 7:48 pm

This is some revival for Victor Moses. Well done that lad.

by GSC Sat 26 Nov 2016, 11:36 pm

Leicester want to be careful, the defensive transformation from last year is staggering. no chance they concede that 2nd goal last year

by **Crimey** Mon 28 Nov 2016, 11:00 am

Just John wrote:how bad is this coutinho injury? Mane off to ACON too, so if PC is long term, that's the end of Liverpool

Pardew to be sacked

Not sure yet, hopefully somewhere between 4-6 weeks, but could be longer. Club thinks it's not a break, more likely to be ligament damage, which could be a sprain or could be much more serious.

I definitely wouldn't say it's the end of Liverpool, so long as Sturridge's injury is only short term we've got good depth with Lallana coming back. Coutinho has been great but we've won every game he hasn't played so it'd be overstating it completely to say it's the end of Liverpool.

I think the side is a lot less reliant on one player these days.

by nadeem2099 Mon 28 Nov 2016, 11:05 am

Talking of injuries, Dani Alves broke his leg yesterday playing for Juve.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon 28 Nov 2016, 12:38 pm

Coutinho won't be a huge miss, they have enough. Firmino, Mane and Lallana behind Original or Sturridge will be just as effective.

by lfc91 Mon 28 Nov 2016, 12:45 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Coutinho won't be a huge miss, they have enough. Firmino, Mane and Lallana behind Original or Sturridge will be just as effective.

Sturridge up front and we lose a hell of a lot in terms of pressing!!! Would prefer Origi start TBH.

by **Crimey** Mon 28 Nov 2016, 12:45 pm

Was fine against Leicester. I think it's really overstated.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon 28 Nov 2016, 12:50 pm

And he's scores goals. We're linked and I would love him; even with injuries he'd end up our top scorer

by lfc91 Mon 28 Nov 2016, 1:18 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:And he's scores goals. We're linked and I would love him; even with injuries he'd end up our top scorer

Could be a good deal. 30+ million for an injury-prone striker who is down the pecking order wouldn't be a bad piece of business.

by **Crimey** Mon 28 Nov 2016, 1:25 pm

It would be a huge mistake to sell Sturridge.

Hopefully next year we'll be in Europe and we'll need the depth, letting go our best (and arguably one of the best in the league) striker would be a terrible idea. Particularly when we don't need the money.

I can't think of a single person in the squad we should be selling right now, we should be keeping hold of everybody we have now and making sure we build on it next year when we are likely to be playing many more games.

by lfc91 Mon 28 Nov 2016, 1:30 pm

Crimey wrote:It would be a huge mistake to sell Sturridge.

Hopefully next year we'll be in Europe and we'll need the depth, letting go our best (and arguably one of the best in the league) striker would be a terrible idea. Particularly when we don't need the money.

I can't think of a single person in the squad we should be selling right now, we should be keeping hold of everybody we have now and making sure we build on it next year when we are likely to be playing many more games.

Agree that no-one should be sold now (as in the January window) but come the summer there are a few players I would expect to leave. Sturridge being one of them as I doubt being 3rd choice striker is really his idea of where he should be. However if he is happy to sit on the bench for us and no-one in the board room is bothered that he is our highest paid player (I think?) then by all means keep him around! Just don't think that scenario is very likely....

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Mon 28 Nov 2016, 1:42 pm

I would assume that you'll buy, and I'd think Klopp would look their first. He obviously doesn't like him much, and there are strikers out there who would suit

by **Hero** Mon 28 Nov 2016, 2:32 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:And he's scores goals. We're linked and I would love him; even with injuries he'd end up our top scorer

Hasn't Carroll put you off injury prone Liverpool strikers?

by **Crimey** Mon 28 Nov 2016, 2:42 pm

I'd honestly be surprised if we saw many players leave in the summer. Perhaps Lucas, maybe Sturridge if he puts up a fuss but there's a lot of season left so I really wouldn't be surprised if he ends up forcing his way back into the side. I think it would be a big mistake to let him go once we are also in Europe as we will need quality in depth which we have but would need to be improved.

I also think Klopp not liking Sturridge is overstated. I think he was disappointed in his level of fitness when he first got here and he clearly doesn't value him as highly as Rodgers did but I think he does rate Sturridge.

by Guest Mon 28 Nov 2016, 4:39 pm

A lot of people rate Sturridge. Not a lot of people like him.

by **Crimey** Mon 28 Nov 2016, 4:53 pm

Which I think is really unfair, very little evidence of a bad attitude, got a good sense of humour and actually seems pretty intelligent for a footballer. I do think there's a little bit of racism in how the media portrays him. You'll see a lot of newspapers and an online places reporting that he "wants to go back to London" despite growing up in Birmingham. There is a tendency to characterise black players as lazy and like party boys, which doesn't tend to happen with white players. Same way they're often described as athletic etc.

by Guest Mon 28 Nov 2016, 5:08 pm

Crimey wrote:Which I think is really unfair, very little evidence of a bad attitude, got a good sense of humour and actually seems pretty intelligent for a footballer. I do think there's a little bit of racism in how the media portrays him. You'll see a lot of newspapers and an online places reporting that he "wants to go back to London" despite growing up in Birmingham. There is a tendency to characterise black players as lazy and like party boys, which doesn't tend to happen with white players. Same way they're often described as athletic etc.

You're reaching there, Crimey. It's nothing to do with his skin colour.

His holier than thou attitude doesn't help his cause. That and the fact that he breaks down (for umpteen weeks) if you so much as fart in his presence. Good player but not irreplaceable.

by Fernando Mon 28 Nov 2016, 5:12 pm

Tony Pulis to pay Palace £3.7m for being a c*nt Laugh

Asked for his £2m bonus early then the next day resigned. He had to stay until end of transfer window to get it.

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