5000-1 - The 2016/17 Premier League thread

[Dolphin Ziggler]

The other thread is coming to an end and I think it's nice to have a new memory to take us through this year.

And with the new season starting today, what better time to refresh things and start again. The preamble of pre-season is over: 2016/17 LETS BE AVIN YA

[Hero]

It's that moment where there's fans of all 20 clubs brimming over with nervous excitement, come this time in a few days around half of them will already be moaning over what they then expect to be a long season ahead.

[Duty281]

I hope Hull smash Leicester 7-0, and that Southampton begin the long march to the title with a comfortable win over Watford and Elton John.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

I expect to lose Monday, but it's nice to be able to enjoy the opening day without the stress of West Ham!

[GSC]

Probably shouldn't overreact to the opening game, but thats a really poor result for Leicester given Hull's build up to the season.

[compelling and rich]

very poor defensively today by Leicester and didnt take their chances. surprised by the weakness at set pieces, probably down to huth not playing

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Kante loss felt

[compelling and rich]

dont think that excuses the weakness from set pieces but he was certainly missed around rest of the pitch. very open midfield today

barkley cross straight in from free kick. think spurs missed their chance last season. top 4 at best this season with their rivals strengthening

[nadeem2099]

MOTD soon

[GSC]

Fair play to Lineker

[GSC]

Did Vardy punch himself in the face

[GSC]

2 Hull players going for overhead kicks at the same time is my highlight of the season

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Buzzing to watch a Pulis masterclass

[GSC]

Leicester better hope this doesn't further encourage Mahrez to move, looks the class act

[Guest]

Benching Hart and banishing Yaya.

I'm now a Pep fan.

[GSC]

They're still a pretty big work in progress. Can see them taking off when Gundogan gets fit.

[GSC]

Hart to Everton would make a lot of sense I think. Possibly on loan

[GSC]

Spurs look good. Not sure they're a top 4 team but as we saw with City, there's always stuff to iron out following a summer overhaul. They have stability that City, United and Chelsea don't.

[Guest]

Spurs shoulda nicked that. Janssen has to bury that 2nd half chance.

[GSC]

Wickham #donkey

[Crimey]

If Guardiola wants to drop Hart, HAS to sign a new keeper. Caballero is not good enough.

[GSC]

Ter Stegan is the link

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Hart gets a lot of unfair stick in my book, but if he wants more of a sweeper keeper then he needs to go Ter Stegen. Think Hart to Everton could well be on, there have been rumours popping up all summer and I'd maybe guess it's why Everton haven't gone after better than Stekelenburg yet.

[Jermaine2015]

Joe Hart was always an overrated keeper. He was ludicrously put up on a pedestal by the British media and pundits as being on par with Manuel Neuer or David de Gea. Never was Hart in that class. He had the odd decent performance but he was always willing to provide many a clanger. As for Pep instead of solely focusing on Marc-Andre ter Stegen, he should be looking at Bernd Leno who's equally as good and considerably cheaper.

[Hammersmith harrier]

I would much prefer to have Hart in my team than Ter Stegen, massively over rated.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

See, I don't think anyone but the enraged have ever thought he was that good. It's like people who moan before an international tournament about the fans building England up as challengers - it doesn't happen, not least for about 14 years.

He's a good goalkeeper, and has produced outstanding performances. His consistency dipped a lot more last year, but so did City as a whole, and I would not judge him on a bad tournament with England, as everyone has talked about the problem of players being judged one way or the other at major tournaments.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

I would much prefer to have Hart in my team than Ter Stegen, massively over rated.

Agree with this - Ter Stegen has failed to beat out Claudio Bravo at Barca, don't think he's any different to Hart in terms of overall ability

[Hammersmith harrier]

That was my line of thought exactly Olly, being number two to Bravo isn't the sign of a top class goalkeeper.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Bournemouth XI: Boruc, Smith, Francis, Steve Cook, Daniels, Surman, Arter, Lewis Cook, Ibe, Wilson, King.

Man Utd XI: De Gea, Valencia, Bailly, Blind, Shaw, Fellaini, Herrera, Mata, Rooney, Martial, Ibrahimović.

[Fernando]

R.I.P Marcus Rashford's career

[Hammersmith harrier]

Interesting first line up, a very Van Gaal looking side.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Bench of: Romero, Rojo, Carrick, Schneiderlin, Rashford, Memphis and Mkhitaryan

[Jermaine2015]

I would much prefer to have Hart in my team than Ter Stegen, massively over rated.

Agree with this - Ter Stegen has failed to beat out Claudio Bravo at Barca, don't think he's any different to Hart in terms of overall ability

When ter Stegen joined FC Barcelona he was set to become the first choice keeper but he sustained an injury. Bravo came in and took his chance(Bravo is world class in his own right) and then on it ter Stegen has been forced to bide his time.

The overrated Hart was the main reason by England didn't win the European championships...

[Ent]

Don't understand that United side at all.

[Hammersmith harrier]

Claudio Bravo is not a world class keeper in the slightest and as for that last sentence, talk about over egging the pudding.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

The overrated Hart was the main reason by England didn't win the European championships...

[Jermaine2015]

Claudio Bravo is not a world class keeper in the slightest and as for that last sentence, talk about over egging the pudding.

Joining Manchester City is Claudio Bravo...in sure he'll become world class in your deluded eyes now...

[Hammersmith harrier]

As a Manchester United fan I very much doubt a player joining City will make me think they're world class

[Guest]

Can't believe Depay is getting anywhere near the bench at Utd. Must be one of their worst signings ever.

I think there'll be goals in this match. I actually fancy Utd to win the title this year. Chelsea intrigue me the most.

[Ent]

Depay has ability, needs to apply himself.

Quite worried about this game given the line up.

Wouldn't have gone with Fellaini, rooney or mata.

[Ent]

If the bookies offer bets on players getting sent off over the course of a season Bailly looks like free money.

[Jermaine2015]

Mourinho is known for his ruthless managerial style, but he needs to be ruthless now and flog off the rwo donkeys he has inherited Rooney and Felliani

[Ent]

2-0, Rooney header after a couple of bobbles and a complete misfit from martial.

[Ent]

3-0, ibra from 25 yards.

[Ent]

3-1 smith with a lovely strike. Several missed tackles from united in build up as Bournemouth essentially walked across the 18 yard line in the build up.

[Fernando]

Arsenal team vs Scousers - Cech, Bellerin, Holding, Chambers, Monreal, Coquelin, Elneny, Iwobi, Ramsey, Alexis, Walcott

Bench: Ospina, Gibbs,Wilshere,Xhaka,Cazorla,Chamberlain,Akpom

Liverpool: Mignolet,Clyne,Klavan,Lovren,Moreno,Wijnaldum,Henderson,Lallana,Coutinho,Mane,Firmino

Bench: Manninger,Can,Matip,Origi,Stewart,Grujic,Alexander-Arnold

[Fernando]

FT Bournemouth 1-3 Man Utd

United got some improving to do under Jose can forget about the title if keep playing like that.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Very Jose in parts there. Efficient goalscoring without being exciting. Some of the defending very suspect though

[Ent]

FT Bournemouth 1-3 Man Utd

United got some improving to do under Jose can forget about the title if keep playing like that.

Only the first game of the season, pogba and mhiktaryan to come in.

Think the title is a big ask for them this season but I expect them to get better.

Never going to be a dominating performance with the team playing today, just glad they won.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

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