Newport Gwent Dragons v Glasgow Warriors, 30 September

by **George Carlin** Tue 27 Sep 2016, 9:44 am

Newport Gwent Dragons v Glasgow Warriors, 30 September Glasgo11

Newport Gwent Dragons v Glasgow Warriors
Friday 30 September 2016
KO 19:35
Parade of the Dave

Live on BBC Sport Wales

Referee: [*]
Assistant Referees: [*]
Citing Commissioner: [*]
TMO: [*]

A. Head to Head

26 Played 26
13 Wins 11
11 Losses 13
2 Draws 2
484 Points 564

B. Form

Newport Gwent Dragons 15-18 Glasgow Warriors
25th Feb 2016

Glasgow Warriors 29 - 15 Newport Gwent Dragons
16th October 2015

Glasgow Warriors 19 - 15 Newport Gwent Dragons
30th November 2014

Newport Gwent Dragons 13 - 33 Glasgow Warriors
20th September 2014

C. Teams
Newport Gwent Dragons
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Glasgow Warriors
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by funnyExiledScot Tue 27 Sep 2016, 10:02 am

Like the pictures. Could easily also work for Edinburgh Nightclub vs Glasgow Nightclub.....

I'd back Glasgow to bounce back and win this.

by Hazel Sapling Tue 27 Sep 2016, 10:45 am

Glasgow have fought 2 tough matches in a row close but ultimately deserved to lose. Looking at form, this one should be a 5 pointer for Glasgow (assuming we have a back 5 that is remotely healthy and not all academy players). Not sure I can predict a line-up with so many back row and 2nd row players gone.

by Luckless Pedestrian Tue 27 Sep 2016, 12:10 pm

Do we have to have a match thread for this? Sad

by **George Carlin** Tue 27 Sep 2016, 12:15 pm

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:Do we have to have a match thread for this?

Courage, Luckless. Gregor Townsend has recently been seen stopping people in Partick and asking them if they could play loose forward at the weekend.

My haircut was older than half of our bench last week.

by mikey_dragon Tue 27 Sep 2016, 12:53 pm

7 changes made before our last game, so that'll likely mean anywhere between 5 and 10 changes for this game. I don't think we'll be able to deal with Glasgow's intensity and speed in attack, unless we get a nudge on up front but I can't see that happening - a good group of forwards and they're this poor at the scrum.

by **RiscaGame** Tue 27 Sep 2016, 1:59 pm

Can't see anything other than a home win here. Maybe even with a bonus point. Our all out attack is bound to click soon. In Kingsley l trust!!

by Luckless Pedestrian Tue 27 Sep 2016, 2:30 pm

I still remember that night Glasgow won 60 - 3.

by **George Carlin** Tue 27 Sep 2016, 3:29 pm

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:I still remember that night Glasgow won 60 - 3.

by Luckless Pedestrian Tue 27 Sep 2016, 3:30 pm

You swine!

by Luckless Pedestrian Tue 27 Sep 2016, 3:36 pm

Anyway, that was then, this is now. This time it'll be 660 - 3 to the Dragons. That's right, 660.

by Stone Motif Tue 27 Sep 2016, 3:48 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:7 changes made before our last game, so that'll likely mean anywhere between 5 and 10 changes for this game. I don't think we'll be able to deal with Glasgow's intensity and speed in attack, unless we get a nudge on up front but I can't see that happening - a good group of forwards and they're this poor at the scrum.

Are you talking about the NGD pack there? In which case the word you're looking for certainly isn't 'good'. 'Absolute flaming sh1te' would be a lot closer to the mark.

by MacKnocked-on Tue 27 Sep 2016, 3:55 pm

Any chance of Hugh Blake's loan to Bay of Plenty being cut short to help with the injury crisis or do we think he won't be coming back to Scotland?

by Luckless Pedestrian Tue 27 Sep 2016, 5:03 pm

George Carlin wrote:Form

Newport Gwent Dragons 15-18 Glasgow Warriors
25th Feb 2016

Glasgow Warriors 29 - 15 Newport Gwent Dragons
16th October 2015

Glasgow Warriors 19 - 15 Newport Gwent Dragons
30th November 2014

Newport Gwent Dragons 13 - 33 Glasgow Warriors
20th September 2014

Admirable consistency.

by **George Carlin** Tue 27 Sep 2016, 5:34 pm

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:
George Carlin wrote:Form

Newport Gwent Dragons 15-18 Glasgow Warriors
25th Feb 2016

Glasgow Warriors 29 - 15 Newport Gwent Dragons
16th October 2015

Glasgow Warriors 19 - 15 Newport Gwent Dragons
30th November 2014

Newport Gwent Dragons 13 - 33 Glasgow Warriors
20th September 2014

Admirable consistency.

by munkian Wed 28 Sep 2016, 8:52 am

I remember the lovely days when Glasgow were fellow whipping boys Sad

I'm looking forward to the beer, even the bus replacement service will be a breeze compared to the actual game.

by chris_501 Wed 28 Sep 2016, 8:56 am

Dragons 15 - Glasgow 10

by Senlac Wed 28 Sep 2016, 10:47 am

Worth remembering that the Dragons do lead the current head-to-head 13 wins to 11.

And Glasgow also have a habit of getting on the wrong end of home officials in Newport so at least a couple of touch-judge recommended yellows, or maybe even a red should be a guarantee.

Will be interesting to see if Toonie rests Hogg and Seymour for this one or the Zebre game next week.

Can't seem them going into Leicester game without a rest but also can't see them going in not having played for 3 weeks, so it surely can only be one of the next two games?

by Luckless Pedestrian Wed 28 Sep 2016, 11:00 am

I wouldn't worry. You got a bonus-point win despite the sending off.

by munkian Wed 28 Sep 2016, 11:03 am

Christ they are going back a bit ! Home officials is a bit of a misnomer these days to be fair.

by Senlac Wed 28 Sep 2016, 11:15 am

munkian wrote:Christ they are going back a bit ! Home officials is a bit of a misnomer these days to be fair.

Yep, in fairness only one Welsh touch judge for this game and a neutral TMO, so much better than it used to be.

by funnyExiledScot Wed 28 Sep 2016, 12:22 pm

Don't worry Dragons fans. You'll be playing Edinburgh soon enough.....

by munkian Wed 28 Sep 2016, 1:13 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:Don't worry Dragons fans. You'll be playing Edinburgh soon enough.....

They aren't exactly a gimmee these days either Doh

by Luckless Pedestrian Wed 28 Sep 2016, 1:53 pm

The Dragons are the gimme for most teams.

by munkian Wed 28 Sep 2016, 1:55 pm

Apart from Cardiff in important games Wink

by Luckless Pedestrian Wed 28 Sep 2016, 2:04 pm

What, like pre-season friendlies?

by munkian Wed 28 Sep 2016, 2:06 pm

No, like in Europe.

by Luckless Pedestrian Wed 28 Sep 2016, 2:08 pm

Ah yes, the fig leaf of Europe. And shouldn't that be 'important game', singular?

by munkian Wed 28 Sep 2016, 3:16 pm

Alright Mikey chill out

by Luckless Pedestrian Wed 28 Sep 2016, 3:20 pm

Well it is only one big game we've won against them recently.

by munkian Wed 28 Sep 2016, 3:23 pm

ITS ALL I HAVE DAMNIT

by Luckless Pedestrian Wed 28 Sep 2016, 3:24 pm

by Guest Wed 28 Sep 2016, 9:46 pm

munkian wrote:Alright Mikey chill out

by Guest Wed 28 Sep 2016, 9:46 pm

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:

Sad but true Sad

by Luckless Pedestrian Thu 29 Sep 2016, 12:08 pm

15 Carl Meyer, 14 Pat Howard, 13 Sam Beard, 12 Jack Dixon, 11 Hallam Amos, 10 Nick Macleod, 9 Sarel Pretorius; 1 Sam Hobbs, 2 Thomas Rhys Thomas, 3 Brok Harris, 4 Matthew Screech, 5 Rynard Landman, 6 Nick Crosswell 7 Nic Cudd, 8 Lewis Evans (c).

Replacements; Rhys Buckley, Thomas Davies, Craig Mitchell, Cory Hill, Harrison Keddie, Charlie Davies, Angus O’Brien, Tom Prydie.

I'm not sure they know what the f*ck they're doing.

by mikey_dragon Thu 29 Sep 2016, 12:14 pm

Kingsley almost got it right there, but there's a glaring error at No.2 - he's picked a guy that can't throw. Anyway I put up a prediction elsewhere and I got laughed at, I can't see why mind, but i'll post it here too.
Prediction: Dragons 60-3 Glasgow.

by **BigGee** Thu 29 Sep 2016, 12:18 pm

Despite their injury woes, Glasgow still putting out a decent enough team.

Hoggy gets his rest this week but Johnny Gray soldiers on with Rob Harley beside him, I suspect he may be spending a bit of time in the second row for the foreseeable. Rob McAlpine is on the bench!

Strauus is also back and plays with Wynne and Fraser Brown in the back row and Matt Fargerson getting another run off the bench.

The backline looks very solid, with only really Hogg and Sarto missing (and he is on the bench), Rory Hughes, after a decent cameo last weekend gets a start.

by mikey_dragon Thu 29 Sep 2016, 12:20 pm

Promising for us that there's no Hogg (for most of the game at least) and Sarto. Can you rest Seymour too?

by IanBru Thu 29 Sep 2016, 12:28 pm

Glasgow Warriors team to play Newport Gwent Dragons at Rodney Parade, Friday 30 September (kick off 7.35pm) - live on BBC Teuchter-tastic 3000

15. Peter Murchie
14. Tommy Seymour
13. angel

12. Alex Dunbar
11. Rory Hughes
10. Finn Russell
9. Henry Pyrgos (Co-Captain)

1. Alex Allan
2. Corey Flynn
3. Sila Puafisi
4. Rob Harley
5. Jonny Gray (Co-Captain)
6. Lewis Wynne
7. Fraser Brown
8. Josh Strauss

Replacements:

16. Pat MacArthur
17. Djustice Sears-Duru
18. D’arcy Rae
19. Robert McAlpine
20. Matt Fagerson
21. Ali Price
22. Rory Clegg
23. Leonardo Sarto

by **BigGee** Thu 29 Sep 2016, 12:32 pm

Our first chance to see DJD in a Glasgow shirt for a proper game as well, it will be interesting to see what he can do.

by Luckless Pedestrian Thu 29 Sep 2016, 12:47 pm

FFS, I need to take Hogg out of my fantasy XV now.

by **RiscaGame** Thu 29 Sep 2016, 1:29 pm

Ten changes. Shambolic

by Luckless Pedestrian Thu 29 Sep 2016, 1:32 pm

If Tyler Morgan and Ashton Hewitt aren't injured, why have they been bombed out of the squad altogether?

by funnyExiledScot Thu 29 Sep 2016, 1:39 pm

There's a danger here that Toonie is taking this game a bit lightly. That's a remarkable effort from the tombola, particularly Harley at lock and Brown at 7. "Makeshift" doesn't do it justice.

The backline is good though, and I'm pleased to see Rory Hughes get a start. I've always rated him.

by **BigGee** Thu 29 Sep 2016, 1:49 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:There's a danger here that Toonie is taking this game a bit lightly. That's a remarkable effort from the tombola, particularly Harley at lock and Brown at 7. "Makeshift" doesn't do it justice.

Makeshift maybe, but with the current injury list, especially in the second and back row, I am just glad we can get any half decent looking team out. The question really is who will he play next week when JG surely needs a rest.

Brown actually had an absolute stormer in the back row last week, looked like he had been playing there all his life. It was not the first time and won't be the last that he fills in there.

by IanBru Thu 29 Sep 2016, 1:51 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:The backline is good though, and I'm pleased to see Rory Hughes get a start. I've always rated him.

You're right about Rozzer Hughes. For Scotland, a lot of our outside back options can be a bit showpony-ish, all glitz and flair, but no dog. (Hoggy, Tommy, Visser and Dougie, I'm looking at you.) I like a wing with a bit of the b***ard about him.

by munkian Thu 29 Sep 2016, 1:54 pm

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:If Tyler Morgan and Ashton Hewitt aren't injured, why have they been bombed out of the squad altogether?

I know Ashton is just coming back from injury - I'd be surprised if he doesn't play a part next game. No idea about Morgan.

by Hazel Sapling Thu 29 Sep 2016, 2:07 pm

Good side for Glasgow. Need to develop wings and Hughes offers something different. Would have like Sarto to start and give Seymour a rest also.

Problem with both Harley and Gray needing time off next week so must be hoping that Swinson and/or Uanivi are healthy. Brown is arguably the best openside Glasgow have and happy to see Rae coming back into the fold. There is a lot of firepower in that backline. If the rain holds off til after the match Glasgow have enough to put Newport to the sword.

Newport 16 - 31 Glasgow if the rain holds off is my prediction. About a 15 point Glasgow win. The return game will be close based on recent matches.

by Luckless Pedestrian Thu 29 Sep 2016, 2:20 pm

munkian wrote:
Luckless Pedestrian wrote:If Tyler Morgan and Ashton Hewitt aren't injured, why have they been bombed out of the squad altogether?

I know Ashton is just coming back from injury - I'd be surprised if he doesn't play a part next game. No idea about Morgan.

I can understand them wanting to ease him and Tom Prydie back in, but the bottom line is we're an unsuccessful team. We can't afford to fanny around with rotation for the sake of it. (Where's Ollie Griffiths these days?)

Ceri Jones said the other day that 'we're in a good place' and that the competition for places has never been more fierce. Well forgive me, but I'd take a little disgruntlement in the squad if it meant we'd won more than one of our first four matches.

Of course, it's quite possible that Kingsley has no idea what our best XV is.

by Tattie Scones RRN Thu 29 Sep 2016, 2:31 pm

I've a funny feeling about this one. Definitely a potential banana skin and RP is a really difficult place to go, regardless of the team the Dragons put out. I reckon it'll be closer than most think.

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