Glasgow Warriors v Newport Gwent Dragons 1935 hrs 22 Nov 2013 Scotstoun Stadium, Glasgow

Weary of the depression that international rugby afflicts on me I thought I would beat GC to it and start this.

Warriors :


15 Hogg
14 Barry
13 DTH
12 Russell
11 Niko
10 Wight
09 Henners

1 Shrek
2 Hall
3 Kalman
4 Ryder
5 Kellock
6 Harley
7 Fozzy
8 Vernon

16 Hunter
17 Brown
18 Angela
19 Big Naka
20 Bluto
21 Jedi
22 Steele
23 [tbc]

I hope that the Messiah is not released for his own sake, c21st, and think that unfortunately both DTH and Niko are away with Canada and Fiji respectively

uuuuuhh ffs. No DTH is very bad.

ASBO,

DTH made himself unavailable for the Canadian tour according to the Warriors site - citing his recent fatherhood as an excuse /reason  

Dragons will be missing a fair few starters too

Faletau - Wales
Coombes- Wales
Amos - Wales

Then off top of head Prydie is redently injured along with a raft of longer term injuries

I imagine Rees will start 9 with Tovey at 10, Talei at 8, maybe Lewis Evans at 7

Adam Hughes will prob be on the wing, not sure on the other side

Hughes is injured. The wings are likely to be Harries and Pewtner.

I think the backs will be

Rees
Tov
Pewtner
Leach/Smith
Wardle
Harries
Evans.

Good man, Schiz. Nice to put me feet up.
 
Risca - whom have you lost to the international squad? Faletau and Coombs? How do you rate your chances?
 
For Glasgow, I am assuming that MacArthur and Bennett will be making their Scotland appearances at the weekend and so will be unavailable. I think in total we will lose Bennett, Maitland, Seymour, Grant, Swinson, MacArthur, and Weir to the Wallabies game starting XV and also Cusiter, Ickle Jonny and Lamont to the bench. We may also lose Fozzy, the Rhubarb and the Ruck Inspector depending on Scott Johnson's muse.
 
The team I am hoping we can pick is:
1. Reid
2. Hall
3. Welsh
4. Ryder
5. Kellock (if not, Big Naka)
6. Harley
7. Fusaro (if not, Holmes)
8. Strauss
 
9. Pyrgos  
10. Jackson (if not, Suspiciously Old Scott)
11. McGuigan (or maybe Rory Hughes if Barry moves to centre)
12. Ascarate
13. Steele (or McGuigan if Toonie prefers him there)
14. DTH
15. Hogg/Murchie
 
That would be pretty serviceable given the huge number of Warriors players lost to Scotland's glorious victory over those thirsty Wallabies.

Nice little profile of DTH on PlanetRugby, incidentally. Scotstoun looks great. Toonie needs to work on those open pores though.

Is Toonie not using his facial scrub - the stupid besterd ! He gets muppetry points for that omission !  

21st Century Schizoid Man wrote:Is Toonie not using his facial scrub - the stupid besterd !  He gets muppetry points for that omission !  

That's a touch too MFL for most of us and way beyond the pale for yourself. Are you feeling alright Schiz?

Risca Rev wrote:Hughes is injured. The wings are likely to be Harries and Pewtner.

I think the backs will be

Rees
Tov
Pewtner
Leach/Smith
Wardle
Harries
Evans.

I'd love to see them go with Ashton Hewitt instead of Pewtner. He really looked quality against Wasps (albeit a second-string Wasps side). Dangerous in attack and solid in defence. Glasgow are strong favourites anyway so we might as well have a proper crack at them.

George Carlin wrote:Good man, Schiz. Nice to put me feet up.
 
Risca - whom have you lost to the international squad? Faletau and Coombs? How do you rate your chances?
 
For Glasgow, I am assuming that MacArthur and Bennett will be making their Scotland appearances at the weekend and so will be unavailable. I think in total we will lose Bennett, Maitland, Seymour, Grant, Swinson, MacArthur, and Weir to the Wallabies game starting XV and also Cusiter, Ickle Jonny and Lamont to the bench. We may also lose Fozzy, the Rhubarb and the Ruck Inspector depending on Scott Johnson's muse.
 
The team I am hoping we can pick is:
1. Reid
2. Hall
3. Welsh
4. Ryder
5. Kellock (if not, Big Naka)
6. Harley
7. Fusaro (if not, Holmes)
8. Strauss
 
9. Pyrgos  
10. Jackson (if not, Suspiciously Old Scott)
11. McGuigan (or maybe Rory Hughes if Barry moves to centre)
12. Ascarate
13. Steele (or McGuigan if Toonie prefers him there)
14. DTH
15. Hogg/Murchie
 
That would be pretty serviceable given the huge number of Warriors players lost to Scotland's glorious victory over those thirsty Wallabies.

Nice little profile of DTH on PlanetRugby, incidentally. Scotstoun looks great. Toonie needs to work on those open pores though.

Ascarate is in the Argentina squad and played against Wales.

We are going to be missing at least 12 players to international call ups, Bennett looks certain to be invovled with Scotland. Added to that we have another 8 players unavailable due to injury. Should be able to get a decent pack out, but going to be really struggling in the backs.

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:

Risca Rev wrote:Hughes is injured. The wings are likely to be Harries and Pewtner.

I think the backs will be

Rees
Tov
Pewtner
Leach/Smith
Wardle
Harries
Evans.

I'd love to see them go with Ashton Hewitt instead of Pewtner. He really looked quality against Wasps (albeit a second-string Wasps side). Dangerous in attack and solid in defence. Glasgow are stong favourites anyway so we might as well have a proper crack at them.

Wouldn't say strong favourites. We are going to have backline cramed with players out of position, just back from injury or making their debut.

Our away track record ? Yeah, you are strong favourites  

21st Century Schizoid Man wrote:Weary of the depression that international rugby afflicts on me I thought I would beat GC to it and start this.

Warriors :

15   Hogg or Murchie - whoever is fit(test)
14   McGuigan
13   Bennett (hopefully if released)
12   Dunbar or Ascarate if released
11 DTH VDM
10 Wight
9 Matawalu (Fiji ?)or Pyrgos
8 Bluto Strauss
7 Fusaro
6 Harley
5 Kellock
4 Ryder
3 Welsh or Jerry Yaya if Angela not released
2 Hall
1 Reid

16 Big Naka, 17 Holmes 18 Jedi 19 Vernon 20 Russell 21 Gillies 22 Kalman 23 Price

Quite a bench you have selected there, no props on the bench and an injured Hooker .  Price is also out for the season as well.

munkian wrote:Our away track record ? Yeah, you are strong favourites  

 

Dorothy_Mantooth wrote:

21st Century Schizoid Man wrote:Weary of the depression that international rugby afflicts on me I thought I would beat GC to it and start this.

Warriors :

15   Hogg or Murchie - whoever is fit(test)
14   McGuigan
13   Bennett (hopefully if released)
12   Dunbar or Ascarate if released
11 DTH VDM
10 Wight
9 Matawalu (Fiji ?)or Pyrgos
8 Bluto Strauss
7 Fusaro
6 Harley
5 Kellock
4 Ryder
3 Welsh or Jerry Yaya if Angela not released
2 Hall
1 Reid

16 Big Naka, 17 Holmes 18 Jedi 19 Vernon 20 Russell 21 Gillies 22 Kalman 23 Price

Quite a bench you have selected there, no props on the bench and an injured Hooker .  Price is also out for the season as well.

Kalman and Jerry Yaya, Dot?

Well we haven't won away this season yet, and there are easier places to go than Scotstoun.

Dan Evans is set to start at full-back at Scotstoun with Matthew Pewtner and Will Harries slotting in on the wings.

Scrum-half Richie Rees, fly-half Jason Tovey, centres Pat Leach and Ross Wardle, hooker Sam Parry, lock Matthew Screech and flanker Lewis Evans return to the Dragons squad after they were given a fortnight off for the LV= Cup.

Dragons squad: D Evans, W Harries, M Pewtner, R Wardle, A Smith, P Leach, J Tovey, S Jones, R Rees, W Evans, O Evans, A Coundley, H Gustafson, S Parry, E Dee, D Way, F Chaparro, C Hill, M Screech, R Sidoli, J Groves, S Matthews, J Benjamin, L Evans, N Talei, I Jones, N Cudd.

Rhys Thomas is set to be back from injury early for the Bordeaux game  

Steff in the squad instead of Burton. I don't think Burton can have too many complaints about that.

I'd never thought I'd ever say this but I wish we had signed Andy Goode  

Burton was a logical signing when we were losing matches by the odd kick and Steffan wasn't controlling games than well. But he was playing behind the Treviso pack which allowed him to play that kind of game, and then Tovey became available and he was sort of surplus to requirements. I really wanted it to work for him because he was getting a lot of stick before he'd even played a game, but it hasn't really happened.

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:

Dorothy_Mantooth wrote:

21st Century Schizoid Man wrote:Weary of the depression that international rugby afflicts on me I thought I would beat GC to it and start this.

Warriors :

15   Hogg or Murchie - whoever is fit(test)
14   McGuigan
13   Bennett (hopefully if released)
12   Dunbar or Ascarate if released
11 DTH VDM
10 Wight
9 Matawalu (Fiji ?)or Pyrgos
8 Bluto Strauss
7 Fusaro
6 Harley
5 Kellock
4 Ryder
3 Welsh or Jerry Yaya if Angela not released
2 Hall
1 Reid

16 Big Naka, 17 Holmes 18 Jedi 19 Vernon 20 Russell 21 Gillies 22 Kalman 23 Price

Quite a bench you have selected there, no props on the bench and an injured Hooker .  Price is also out for the season as well.

Kalman and Jerry Yaya, Dot?

Jerry is on international duty.  Kalman is fit, would need to be an EDP.

My guess at the team, making a few assumptions on Scotland call ups and not selecting Hogg and Dunbar based on their fitness.

Wight

AN Other/McGuigan
McGugian/AN Other
Jackson/Russell
DTH

Russell/Jackson
Pygros

Reid
Hall
Welsh
Kellock
Ryder
Harley
Fusaro
Strauss

Brown, Kalman, AN Other, Naka, Vernon, AN Other, AN Other, AN Other

Yeah, he's not suited to playing behind a retreating pack - but then few 10s are I guess

Dorothy_Mantooth wrote:

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:

Dorothy_Mantooth wrote:

21st Century Schizoid Man wrote:Weary of the depression that international rugby afflicts on me I thought I would beat GC to it and start this.

Warriors :

15   Hogg or Murchie - whoever is fit(test)
14   McGuigan
13   Bennett (hopefully if released)
12   Dunbar or Ascarate if released
11 DTH VDM
10 Wight
9 Matawalu (Fiji ?)or Pyrgos
8 Bluto Strauss
7 Fusaro
6 Harley
5 Kellock
4 Ryder
3 Welsh or Jerry Yaya if Angela not released
2 Hall
1 Reid

16 Big Naka, 17 Holmes 18 Jedi 19 Vernon 20 Russell 21 Gillies 22 Kalman 23 Price

Quite a bench you have selected there, no props on the bench and an injured Hooker .  Price is also out for the season as well.

Kalman and Jerry Yaya, Dot?

Jerry is on international duty.  Kalman is fit, would need to be an EDP.

My guess at the team, making a few assumptions on Scotland call ups and not selecting Hogg and Dunbar based on their fitness.

Wight

AN Other/McGuigan
McGugian/AN Other
Jackson/Russell
DTH

Russell/Jackson
Pygros

Reid
Hall
Welsh
Kellock
Ryder
Harley
Fusaro
Strauss

Brown, Kalman, AN Other, Naka, Vernon, AN Other, AN Other, AN Other

Woah, that is a wafer thin team  

Mrs Other must be beaming with pride.

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:Mrs Other must be beaming with pride.

 

Anyone going to Scotstoun on Friday be sure to take your boots with you, you never know.
Mind you with the pack we could put out most of us could play on the wing because it'll probably be 10 man rugby all night.

I'm not really a Glasgow expert but I would think that if we're down to bare bones and the people that are currently injured remain injured, then the backline will have to be something like:
 
09. Pyrgos  
10. Jackson/Suspiciously Old Scott
11. Hughes  
12. McGuigan
13. Steele
14. DTH
15. Russell
 
16. Kalman
17. Brown
18. Hunter
19. Eddie
20. Vernon
21. Bordill/Ashe
22. Jericevich
23. Fergusson

munkian wrote:Dan Evans is set to start at full-back at Scotstoun with Matthew Pewtner and Will Harries slotting in on the wings.

Scrum-half Richie Rees, fly-half Jason Tovey, centres Pat Leach and Ross Wardle, hooker Sam Parry, lock Matthew Screech and flanker Lewis Evans return to the Dragons squad after they were given a fortnight off for the LV= Cup.

Dragons squad: D Evans, W Harries, M Pewtner, R Wardle, A Smith, P Leach, J Tovey, S Jones, R Rees, W Evans, O Evans, A Coundley, H Gustafson, S Parry, E Dee, D Way, F Chaparro, C Hill, M Screech, R Sidoli, J Groves, S Matthews, J Benjamin, L Evans, N Talei, I Jones, N Cudd.

Looking at the squad you would have to go

Evans, Harris, Wardle, Leach, Pewtner, Tovey, Rees;
Evans, Parry, Way, Hill, Screech, Evans, Cudd, Talei
(Gus, Coundley, Taz, Sid, Jones; Evans, Jones, Smith).

George Carlin wrote:I'm not really a Glasgow expert but I would think that if we're down to bare bones and the people that are currently injured remain injured, then the backline will have to be something like:
 
09. Pyrgos  
10. Jackson/Suspiciously Old Scott
11. Hughes  
12. McGuigan
13. Steele
14. DTH
15. Russell
 
16. Kalman
17. Brown
18. Hunter
19. Eddie
20. Vernon
21. Bordill/Ashe
22. Jericevich
23. Fergusson

Anyone know how Hunter has been playing. He was way out his depth last season and did not make much of an impact at his very brief loan spell at London Scottish this season.

Both Jackson and Weir and in the TBC list of backs for Scotland, so both look certain to be unavialble for Friday.

Saw that Niko has been released to play though.

Dorothy_Mantooth wrote:Both Jackson and Weir and in the TBC list of backs for Scotland, so both look certain to be unavialble for Friday.

Saw that Niko has been released to play though.

That's excellent news, plus Welsh, Fozzy and Gray jnr deemed surplus to requirements

Dorothy_Mantooth wrote:

21st Century Schizoid Man wrote:Weary of the depression that international rugby afflicts on me I thought I would beat GC to it and start this.

Warriors :

15   Hogg or Murchie - whoever is fit(test)
14   McGuigan
13   Bennett (hopefully if released)
12   Dunbar or Ascarate if released
11 DTH VDM
10 Wight
9 Matawalu (Fiji ?)or Pyrgos
8 Bluto Strauss
7 Fusaro
6 Harley
5 Kellock
4 Ryder
3 Welsh or Jerry Yaya if Angela not released
2 Hall
1 Reid

16 Big Naka, 17 Holmes 18 Jedi 19 Vernon 20 Russell 21 Gillies 22 Kalman 23 Price

Quite a bench you have selected there, no props on the bench and an injured Hooker .  Price is also out for the season as
well.

Always thought Ed Kalman was a sort of prop ? Bow to your superior knowledge on that !

Oh well, after another set of Weird Pellets from SJ's selection Pez dispensor, that sure makes our pack look a lot stronger:
 
1. Reid
2. Hall
3. Welsh
4. Gray
5. Kellock
6. Harley
7. Fusaro
8. Strauss
 
09. Pyrgos
10. Wight
11. Hughes  
12. McGuigan
13. Steele
14. DTH
15. Matawalu

16. Kalman
17. Brown
18. Hunter
19. Ryder
20. Vernon
21. Bordill/Ashe
22. Jericevich
23. Fergusson

21st Century Schizoid Man wrote:

Dorothy_Mantooth wrote:

21st Century Schizoid Man wrote:Weary of the depression that international rugby afflicts on me I thought I would beat GC to it and start this.

Warriors :

15   Hogg or Murchie - whoever is fit(test)
14   McGuigan
13   Bennett (hopefully if released)
12   Dunbar or Ascarate if released
11 DTH VDM
10 Wight
9 Matawalu (Fiji ?)or Pyrgos
8 Bluto Strauss
7 Fusaro
6 Harley
5 Kellock
4 Ryder
3 Welsh or Jerry Yaya if Angela not released
2 Hall
1 Reid

16 Big Naka, 17 Holmes 18 Jedi 19 Vernon 20 Russell 21 Gillies 22 Kalman 23 Price

Quite a bench you have selected there, no props on the bench and an injured Hooker .  Price is also out for the season as
well.

Always thought Ed Kalman was a sort of prop ?   Bow to your superior knowledge on that !

 

George, we are missing Hallam Amos as well through international commitments. Technically Prydie through that too, as he was injured on Wales duty (training) and would probably have got some game time v Tonga.

I don't expect anything from this. Just don't want to be manshamed like last season. Good to see Nic Cudd available again and Steff in for Burton.

Dorothy_Mantooth wrote:

21st Century Schizoid Man wrote:

Dorothy_Mantooth wrote:

21st Century Schizoid Man wrote:Weary of the depression that international rugby afflicts on me I thought I would beat GC to it and start this.

Warriors :

15   Hogg or Murchie - whoever is fit(test)
14   McGuigan
13   Bennett (hopefully if released)
12   Dunbar or Ascarate if released
11 DTH VDM
10 Wight
9 Matawalu (Fiji ?)or Pyrgos
8 Bluto Strauss
7 Fusaro
6 Harley
5 Kellock
4 Ryder
3 Welsh or Jerry Yaya if Angela not released
2 Hall
1 Reid

16 Big Naka, 17 Holmes 18 Jedi 19 Vernon 20 Russell 21 Gillies 22 Kalman 23 Price

Quite a bench you have selected there, no props on the bench and an injured Hooker .  Price is also out for the season as
well.

Always thought Ed Kalman was a sort of prop ?   Bow to your superior knowledge on that !

 

 

Risca Rev wrote:George, we are missing Hallam Amos as well through international commitments. Technically Prydie through that too, as he was injured on Wales duty (training) and would probably have got some game time v Tonga.

I don't expect anything from this. Just don't want to be manshamed like last season. Good to see Nic Cudd available again and Steff in for Burton.

Ah, I forgot Amos had gone. I don't remember ever manshaming a Dragons side - it's always tough. It's a funny one to call, this, Risca. Thanks to Scott Johnson, with the exception of Ryan Grant at 1 we can put out what is arguably a first choice pack but the backline is an absolute basket case with call ups and injuries (Hogg, Murchie, Dunbar and Horne all fecked). Elite Development kids all over the shop to fill not only the bench but the starting backline too.

If Niko wasn't being rested by Fiji and DTH crying paternity leave from the Canadian national side, I could probably have taken my boots along for a shot at full back.

GC,

You stuffed us very very badly last season though that aside there have been a lot of close games.

If we can get a losing bp out of this game then I would be happy with that and hope he puts our strongest available side out.

I know the Welsh management won't be watching this but with all the injuries in the National squad I think the likes of Lewis Evans, Dan Evans (would have called him up instead of Amos) and Tovey will like to show they have what it takes to be part of the Welsh squad.

George Carlin wrote:I don't remember ever manshaming a Dragons side - it's always tough.

Yeah, that 60 - 3 match last season could have gone either way!  

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:

George Carlin wrote:I don't remember ever manshaming a Dragons side - it's always tough.

Yeah, that 60 - 3 match last season could have gone either way!  

Forgot about that one.

George Carlin wrote:

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:

George Carlin wrote:I don't remember ever manshaming a Dragons side - it's always tough.

Yeah, that 60 - 3 match last season could have gone either way!  

Forgot about that one.

We did also beat them by 30+ at home as well last season!   Joking aside, both last seaons games were certainly far from the norm and tomorrow will be a very difficult game for us.

Team's up, Schiz:
https://twitter.com/GlasgowWarriors/status/403492337294135296/photo/1
 
15 Hogg
14 Barry
13 DTH
12 Russell
11 Niko
10 Wight
09 Henners
 
1 Shrek
2 Hall
3 Kalman
4 Ryder
5 Kellock
6 Harley
7 Fozzy
8 Vernon
 
16 Hunter
17 Brown
18 Angela
19 Big Naka
20 Bluto
21 Jedi
22 Steele
23 [tbc]

Dragons: Dan Evans; Will Harries, Pat Leach, Ross Wardle, Matthew Pewtner; Jason Tovey, Richie Rees; Owen Evans, Sam Parry, Francisco Chaparro, Cory Hill, Rob Sidoli (c), Lewis Evans, Nic Cudd, Netani Talei.

Replacements: Elliot Dee, Aaron Coundley, Dan Way, Matthew Screech, Ieuan Jones, Wayne Evans, Steffan Jones, Ashley Smith.

George Carlin wrote:Team's up, Schiz:
https://twitter.com/GlasgowWarriors/status/403492337294135296/photo/1
 
15 Hogg
14 Barry
13 DTH
12 Russell
11 Niko
10 Wight
09 Henners
 
1 Shrek
2 Hall
3 Kalman
4 Ryder
5 Kellock
6 Harley
7 Fozzy
8 Vernon
 
16 Hunter
17 Brown
18 Angela
19 Big Naka
20 Bluto
21 Jedi
22 Steele
23 [tbc]

That's still a decent side to be putting out in the middle of the AIs

 Cheers

Not available for Warriors selection: Michael Cusack, Alex Dunbar, Peter Horne, Peter Murchie, Ryan Wilson, Sean Maitland, Tommy Seymour, Sean Lamont, Ruaridh Jackson, Duncan Weir, Chris Cusiter, Ryan Grant, Moray Low, Tim Swinson, Pat MacArthur, Jonny Gray, Gabriel Ascarate, Jerry Yanuyanutawa

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:Dragons: Dan Evans; Will Harries, Pat Leach, Ross Wardle, Matthew Pewtner; Jason Tovey, Richie Rees; Owen Evans, Sam Parry, Francisco Chaparro, Cory Hill, Rob Sidoli (c), Lewis Evans, Nic Cudd, Netani Talei.

Replacements: Elliot Dee, Aaron Coundley, Dan Way, Matthew Screech, Ieuan Jones, Wayne Evans, Steffan Jones, Ashley Smith.

That Dragons team has a lot of positives for me. Delighted to see Chaparro start and Gus not in the 23. Delighted to see Talei at 8. Really pleased to see Steff backing up Mason.

Not so pleased to see referee Fitzgibbon and hope he isn't as keen to penalise us as he was v Leinster. Glasgae don't need any help to beat us, thanks Peter

Strange that Lewi Sevens ain't captain though. Guess Sid led well last weekend? Good luck to the young lad Benjamin at 7 again.