Leicester Tigers vs Ulster - Welford Road ERCC

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Think this match deserves its own thread.

Leicester Tigers: Mathew Tait; Blaine Scully, Manu Tuilagi, Owen Williams, Vereniki Goneva; Freddie Burns, Ben Youngs (c); Marcos Ayerza, Leonardo Ghiraldini, Fraser Balmain, Brad Thorn, Graham Kitchener, Jamie Gibson, Julian Salvi, Jordan Crane
Replacements: Harry Thacker, Michele Rizzo, Tiziano Pasquali, Sebastian De Chaves, Robert Barbieri, David Mele, Sam Harrison, Miles Benjamin

Ulster: L Ludik; T Bowe, J Payne, S McCloskey, C Gilroy; P Jackson, P Marshall; A Warwick, R Best (c), W Herbst, L Stevenson, F van der Merwe, R Diack, C Henry, N Williams.
Replacements: R Herring, C Black, D Fitzpatrick, C Ross, R Wilson, M Heaney, S Olding, D Cave.

glamorganalun wrote:Bring on Williams for the kicking and move him to 10

Williams is on - at 12. He has been taking the kicks while playing at 12 recently. If he isnt today its because he wasnt looking too good with the kicking in the last match or 2

Pete330v2 wrote:That's twice the receiving player has jumped into the opposition purposely going for the penalty and you still get eejits calling for red cards????????

Don't be silly Pete, you are being ridiculous here.

nathan wrote:

Notch wrote:

formerly known as Sam wrote:I hope he gets a big ban for that

So much for Tigers don't cite.

??

A fan saying he hopes that he gets a good ban is the same as the actual tigers team citing someone?

It's pretty appalling to call for a player to to get banned for anything except violent play, even in the heat of the moment. It could have been red and Gilroy was an idiot but thats just lacking in class, and Leicester as a club have traditionally shown a lot of class in that area.

Lucky there for Ulster they could be nearly 30 down

Lucky escape, some of the worst defence from Ulster in a long time and lineout is gone too

Ulster are all over the place and too much poor kicking

1. If that try had been awarded, it was all over.
2. Kitchener and Salvi have been as good as I've seen them.
3. Did Payne come back on after the concussion check?
4. I've hardly seen Jackson touch the ball.

Were Ulster favourites for this match? They are terrible tigers totally bossing this match it's like men against boys

That was terrible from Ulster. You come to a place like Welford Road and expect to face the best, so if you lose and play well you can take it on the chin. But to come and play like that, and not even force Leicester to have to play well to get a lead like that, thats terrible.

Notch, the club opt not to cite but as a fan of rugby I hate to see cheap shots that endanger the health of players and that's what Gilroy did. Bowe was a completely different matter and it was right there was no card there. Dropping someone on their head is both dangerous and a red card by the letter of the law so Gilroy should have gone. Pete, I'm not an eejit and that was a nasty tackle of a player on the air, Ulster fans know how harshly those type of tackles should be penalised.

Tigers need to get more points on the board. Ulster have a very strong bench and we don't. I wouldn't be surprised to see an Ulster fight back.

formerly known as Sam wrote:Notch, the club opt not to cite but as a fan of rugby I hate to see cheap shots that endanger the health of players and that's what Gilroy did. Bowe was a completely different matter and it was right there was no card there. Dropping someone on their head is both dangerous and a red card by the letter of the law so Gilroy should have gone. Pete, I'm not an eejit and that was a nasty tackle of a player on the air, Ulster fans know how harshly those type of tackles should be penalised.

Tigers need to get more points on the board. Ulster have a very strong bench and we don't. I wouldn't be surprised to see an Ulster fight back.

It was a brain fart, it wasn't a malicious attempt to endanger someone's health. You could clearly see Gilroy looked totally panicked afterwards, he realised he had completely messed up. It was a nasty tackle though and he paid the price. I think a yellow was the right call, but to be honest I couldn't have argued too much with a red.

Notch wrote:

nathan wrote:

Notch wrote:

formerly known as Sam wrote:I hope he gets a big ban for that

So much for Tigers don't cite.

??

A fan saying he hopes that he gets a good ban is the same as the actual tigers team citing someone?

It's pretty appalling to call for a player to to get banned for anything except violent play, even in the heat of the moment. It could have been red and Gilroy was an idiot but thats just lacking in class, and Leicester as a club have traditionally shown a lot of class in that area.

you could class most of the game as violent play.

Still, your confusing the actual club who has control of weather to cite or not with us fans.

Ulster doing their best to rival Munster's first half performance today.

First things first, they've got to sort out those lineouts. They've been taken to the cleaners there and if they don't sort it they cannot win. Lineouts are vital for possession.

nathan wrote:

Notch wrote:

nathan wrote:

Notch wrote:

formerly known as Sam wrote:I hope he gets a big ban for that

So much for Tigers don't cite.

??

A fan saying he hopes that he gets a good ban is the same as the actual tigers team citing someone?

It's pretty appalling to call for a player to to get banned for anything except violent play, even in the heat of the moment. It could have been red and Gilroy was an idiot but thats just lacking in class, and Leicester as a club have traditionally shown a lot of class in that area.

you could class most of the game as violent play.

Still, your confusing the actual club who has control of weather to cite or not with us fans.

No I'm not. I'm making reference to the ethos of the club. I'm stubborn and opinionated, I'm not stupid

What a shambles. Very poor from Ulster. Hoping for a massively improved 2nd half just to have a chance of leaving with a win.

formerly known as Sam wrote:Notch, the club opt not to cite but as a fan of rugby I hate to see cheap shots that endanger the health of players and that's what Gilroy did. Bowe was a completely different matter and it was right there was no card there. Dropping someone on their head is both dangerous and a red card by the letter of the law so Gilroy should have gone. Pete, I'm not an eejit and that was a nasty tackle of a player on the air, Ulster fans know how harshly those type of tackles should be penalised.

Tigers need to get more points on the board. Ulster have a very strong bench and we don't. I wouldn't be surprised to see an Ulster fight back.

i think it's going to be very close at the end, i've been happy with the performance of tigers this half. They've showed some real intensity.

Notch wrote:

nathan wrote:

Notch wrote:

nathan wrote:

Notch wrote:

formerly known as Sam wrote:I hope he gets a big ban for that

So much for Tigers don't cite.

??

A fan saying he hopes that he gets a good ban is the same as the actual tigers team citing someone?

It's pretty appalling to call for a player to to get banned for anything except violent play, even in the heat of the moment. It could have been red and Gilroy was an idiot but thats just lacking in class, and Leicester as a club have traditionally shown a lot of class in that area.

you could class most of the game as violent play.

Still, your confusing the actual club who has control of weather to cite or not with us fans.

No I'm not. I'm making reference to the ethos of the club. I'm stubborn and opinionated, I'm not stupid

haha, me too so we'll leave it with i'm right and your wrong!

profitius wrote:Ulster doing their best to rival Munster's first half performance today.

First things first, they've got to sort out those lineouts. They've been taken to the cleaners there and if they don't sort it they cannot win. Lineouts are vital for possession.

It will be very, very hard to rival their second half performance though.

Any word on Manu Tuilagi's injury? Horrendous luck for him.

formerly known as Sam wrote:That's disgraceful from Gilroy a cynical tackle in the air with Benjamin landing on his upper shoulder. Should have been red. I hope he gets a big ban for that he's only going to get back on because Benjamin didn't stay down for treatment.

Nice to see Tigers turning it on. Youngs and Kitchener have been outstanding.

You're being silly, Sam. Behave yourself.

I'd take a losing bonus point at this stage. But the absolutely crucial thing is keeping a clean sheet in the second half and not letting them get the fourth try. No point in chasing the game wildly. 4-0 is still better than 5-0. We got 4-0 in the first game at Welford Road and got through as second place in 2011-2012. Long shot but its possible. 5-0 and it's gone

I disagree Rory he follows through into the tackle and lifts his arms ensuring Benjamin went over his shoulder. As Bowe showed you can attempt to control the player in the air and help him land in a safe way. Anyway leave that now.

Tigers can't control possess for 80 mins. Ulster will get some ball in the second half and Tigers will have to be on song in defence as Ulster have yet to hit their stride. We have two nines on the bench and two twenty year old front row replacements. Ulster will finish the stronger.

Like Stephen Ferris as a pundit.

Although his scarves are going to need to be a lot more effete if he wants to replicate what Austin Healey has 'achieved' in the pitchside fashion stakes.

Benjamin has had a lot of worries over his neck so i'm sure Sam was just worried about the landing.

nathan wrote:Benjamin has had a lot of worries over his neck so i'm sure Sam was just worried about the landing.

There is nothing wrong with being concerned about your own player, that wasn't the issue.

nathan wrote:Benjamin has had a lot of worries over his neck so i'm sure Sam was just worried about the landing.

Probably, we probably just need to try a bit of peace, love and understanding. Sorry Sam.

I thought Gilroy was just mentally ruined, which is why I'm disgusted with him. Not malicious but just a really stupid mistake he should be better than. Not the kind of player who is stupid enough to do that on purpose to try and hurt somebody, thought he was better than being the kind of player who panics and has a brain fart like that. Such a basic error.

Notch wrote:

No I'm not. I'm making reference to the ethos of the club. I'm stubborn and opinionated, I'm not stupid

Kitchener is going steady for that MOTM award.

Did the players leave their brains back in Belfast? My word.

Ugh, for gods sake.

Amazing to see Brad Thorn out there.

TJ wrote:

Notch wrote:

No I'm not. I'm making reference to the ethos of the club. I'm stubborn and opinionated, I'm not stupid

TJ you salty old dog...

This is so frustrating. Sadly I don't think we can be anything less than perfect in this pool to get out of it and... this ain't perfect. It ain't even close to good enough.

Notch wrote:This is so frustrating. Sadly I don't think we can be anything less than perfect in this pool to get out of it and... this ain't perfect. It ain't even close to good enough.

there is still time for us to man sausage this up, don't worry about it yet!

Nice kick but this will have to be an epicfightback. SUFTUM

that should of been a pen to us, clearly the ulster play wasn't on his feet. His forearms were on the floor.

poor kick by youngs

Mixed emotions- where was that for the first 55 minutes?! But that such a good try though

Great rugby there! COME ON ULSTER!

Ulster kicking everything. Take a chance and run with it!

Great try!

What a TRY!!!!!!!!

outstanding try by Ulster there.

Downhill from now on

What a good try shows what can happen with a decent line out

We have two options and i think neither will result in a win. We can put the young bench on or we can keep the starting team on and run the risk of being tied.

Nice kick but this will have to be an epicfightback. SUFTUM

Straight away from 15, look at what happens when Payne has space to run.

Now if he's got this... it will be interesting.

YES

Game on

Yaayyyy!!!!! VDM!!!!