Dual code quiz - who am I?

by GunsGerms Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:31 am

1. New Zealand - Played full back for New Zealand in rugby and also represented them in cricket. Now a cricket and rugby commentator with Sky Sports.

2. South Africa – Since 2001 I have earned 27 rugby union caps for SA. I also represented SA in cricket and football at youth level.

3. Australia – Played rugby league for Australia and Italy and also union for Italy.

4. England – Played league for NZ and union for England then went on to coach Russia in union.

5. Ireland - Played for Ireland in rugby and Northern Ireland, Ireland and Arsenal in football. I was a doctor. Who am I?

-Try and guess all five at once.

by **rodders** Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:38 am

1. Jeff Wilson?
2. Kirthciner or le roux?
3. yer man the fullback/fly half
4. Henry Paul or Shauntane hape?
5. Jack Kyle?

by GunsGerms Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:39 am

2 right Rodders.

by kiakahaaotearoa Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:43 am

1. Godlie

2. Lambie or Goosen. Not sure but he's a young fulla.

4. Henry Paul

5. Dr Phil?

Nice quiz GG

by **rodders** Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:47 am

3. McLean

by GunsGerms Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:50 am

No Rodders.

2 right Kia. Thanks.

by dummy_half Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:01 am

Had to cheat and use Wiki, but the Aussie-Italian iss Craig Gower

by kiakahaaotearoa Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:02 am

Be gone Wiki-leak. Very Happy

by GunsGerms Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:04 am

There are two outstanding at this point.

by **rodders** Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:04 am

Which ones?

by Dim Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:05 am

I was just about to answer Gower for 3. 2 I assume is Lambie as I don't think Goosen was capped as early as 2007.

As an additional question: which pair of brothers both represented England against New Zealand in 2013 on the same day but at different sports?

by GunsGerms Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:08 am

Tompkins brothers?

by GunsGerms Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:08 am

2 and 5 are outstanding.

by **LondonTiger** Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:09 am

1) Jeff Wilson
2) Not sure
3) Craig Gower
4) Henry Paul
5) OK I know this one, but only by googling

too slow entering

by kiakahaaotearoa Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:10 am

GunsGerms wrote:2 and 5 are outstanding.

They're ok. Let's not pain them as legends. Whistle

by **LondonTiger** Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:12 am

I cannot find anyone who got their first cap in 2007 and has gone on to make 27 appearances for SA

5) Dr Kevin O'Flanagan (via google). Sorry not heard of him, whichj is a shame as he appears to have been rather impressive.

by fa0019 Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:13 am

thats pretty impressive to be SA cricket, rugby and football at age grade.

Schalk Burger was SA cricket age grade (but I believe not rugby!!!!) and the national BMX champion too.

According to Montegomery, Herschelle Gibbs was the most talented youth player he came across in rugby (and that says something since they went to rival schools). I believe he was a flyhalf although size perhaps dictated his selection of cricket.

by GunsGerms Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:15 am

LondonTiger wrote:I cannot find anyone who got their first cap in 2007 and has gone on to make 27 appearances for SA

5) Dr Kevin O'Flanagan (via google). Sorry not heard of him, whichj is a shame as he appears to have been rather impressive.

Aghhh sorry that was a typo 2001

by kiakahaaotearoa Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:20 am

Herschelle Gibbs is a good call.

by fa0019 Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:20 am

GunsGerms wrote:
LondonTiger wrote:I cannot find anyone who got their first cap in 2007 and has gone on to make 27 appearances for SA

5) Dr Kevin O'Flanagan (via google). Sorry not heard of him, whichj is a shame as he appears to have been rather impressive.

Aghhh sorry that was a typo 2001

Guns didn't Rodders get it... Kirchner right. 2009 no?

Can't imagine it would be a white guy... hardly any play football.

by dummy_half Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:21 am

A follow-up question:

Who was the first RL to RU convert (post professionalism) to be capped for each of the following:

Australia
England
France
Ireland
New Zealand
Scotland
Wales (* the answer I'm after is of a player [actually, there were 2 in the same game] who was capped in RL before RU, not someone like Jiffy or Scott Quinnell who was an RU international before code switching to RL and then back to RU)

by **rodders** Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:29 am

Australia - Wendell Sailor
England - Barry John Mather or John Bentley
France - that kiwi centre bloke
Ireland - Brian Carney
New Zealand - Brad Thorn
Scotland - Alan Tait
Wales - Alan Bateman

by fa0019 Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:31 am

rodders wrote:Australia - Wendell Sailor
England - Barry John Mather or John Bentley
France - that kiwi centre bloke
Ireland - Brian Carney
New Zealand - Brad Thorn
Scotland - Alan Tait
Wales - Alan Bateman

Rodders you had your weetabix this morning? Was halfway through and was stumped when your mail came through.

Although isn't it Harris for Wales? Tait also played union before joining league. Have no idea on that one either

by **rodders** Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:32 am

Harris is a good shout.

Was Tana Umaga capped in RL before playing for the all blacks - his brother Mike played for Halifax or did I dream that?

by GunsGerms Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:33 am

fa0019 wrote:
GunsGerms wrote:
LondonTiger wrote:I cannot find anyone who got their first cap in 2007 and has gone on to make 27 appearances for SA

5) Dr Kevin O'Flanagan (via google). Sorry not heard of him, whichj is a shame as he appears to have been rather impressive.

Aghhh sorry that was a typo 2001

Guns didn't Rodders get it... Kirchner right. 2009 no?

Can't imagine it would be a white guy... hardly any play football.

No Rodders didnt get it right and its 24 appearances. Sorry completly messed that one up.

by fa0019 Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:33 am

rodders wrote:Harris is a good shout.

good shout for a shockingly bad player.... and he bankrupted the WRU to boot.

by gregortree Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:33 am

MODS help !

OP doesn't know who he is.
Can you get medics around to his ip address asap ?

by dummy_half Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:42 am

rodders wrote:Australia - Wendell Sailor No
England - Barry John Mather or John Bentley one is right
France - that kiwi centre bloke I presume you mean Marsh - don't think it's right but will check
Ireland - Brian Carney Yes
New Zealand - Brad Thorn Yes, although obviously played RL for Australia. Only one New Zealand RL to RU convert (and then back to RL and possibly returning to RU in the near future...)
Scotland - Alan Tait Not who I had - Tait was an RU player and iirc a Lion before his RL switch
Wales - Alan Bateman No - someone has mentioned Iestyn Harris, who is one of the two I had as the right answers - the other made his Wales RU debut in the same match

by fa0019 Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:43 am

whoa Conrad Jantjies!

Sort of makes sense. That sort of player. Obviously cheated but hey I think we were all stumped on that.

by **rodders** Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:49 am

dummy_half wrote:
rodders wrote:Australia - Wendell Sailor No
England - Barry John Mather or John Bentley one is right
France - that kiwi centre bloke I presume you mean Marsh - don't think it's right but will check
Ireland - Brian Carney Yes
New Zealand - Brad Thorn Yes, although obviously played RL for Australia. Only one New Zealand RL to RU convert (and then back to RL and possibly returning to RU in the near future...)
Scotland - Alan Tait Not who I had - Tait was an RU player and iirc a Lion before his RL switch
Wales - Alan Bateman No - someone has mentioned Iestyn Harris, who is one of the two I had as the right answers - the other made his Wales RU debut in the same match

1. Lote Tuquiri
2. Barry John Mather then.
3. Yes meant Marsh.
4. No idea then.
5. Did Anthony Sullivan switch codes?

by **rodders** Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:50 am

Dai Young played Union first right?

by fa0019 Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:52 am

rodders wrote:Dai Young played Union first right?

3 lions caps in 89 amongst his welsh ones I think

by dummy_half Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:53 am

Rodders

Assuming WIkipedia is right, there was one Aussie before Sailor and Tuqiri

Barry John Mather is right.

Can't find anything to show Marsh played RL, so that's wrong

I'll leave you looking for the Scotland one (two possible answers, as there is some dispute as to whether one of the possible answers was actually capped in RL).

You're right about Sullivan.

by kiakahaaotearoa Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:13 pm

Matt Rogers? Or the Aboriginal chap whose name eludes me.

by GunsGerms Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:26 pm

Andrew Walker

by dummy_half Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:35 pm

GunsGerms wrote:Andrew Walker

Good answer.

Rogers and Tuqiri made their RU debuts in the same game

by GunsGerms Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:36 pm

Yes I cheated. Had never heard of him.

The South African then everyone gave up on was......................

Conrad........................

by fa0019 Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:40 pm

GunsGerms wrote:Yes I cheated. Had never heard of him.

The South African then everyone gave up on was......................

Conrad........................

Mate I answered about an hour ago. Although I too cheated.

You don't know Conrad Jantjies? Surprising.

Very talented player ignored by White and showed his worth under De Villiers.

by GunsGerms Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:43 pm

fa0019 wrote:
GunsGerms wrote:Yes I cheated. Had never heard of him.

The South African then everyone gave up on was......................

Conrad........................

Mate I answered about an hour ago. Although I too cheated.

You don't know Conrad Jantjies? Surprising.

Very talented player ignored by White and showed his worth under De Villiers.

No I had never heard of the Aussie winger. I do of course know Conrad Jantjes.

by kiakahaaotearoa Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:44 pm

Andrew Walker was the name!!!!

by fa0019 Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:44 pm

Ah I see, I do remember Walker... he could play most positions. I thought he was a 10/12 myself. I'm sure he toured the UK, certainly played the home nations anyhow.

Just checked... it was the lions series from where I recall him.

by **LondonTiger** Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:48 pm

fa0019 wrote:Ah I see, I do remember Walker... he could play most positions. I thought he was a 10/12 myself. I'm sure he toured the UK, certainly played the home nations anyhow.

I thought I remembered him with similar memories to you, but on googling found I must have been thinking of a different player. Andrew Walker had 7 caps for Aus in 2000/01 6 in Aus and 1 in SA

Now I have to work out who I was thinking of.

by mckay1402 Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:38 pm

James mclaren for Scotland?

by SecretFly Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:38 am

Jeaffreson Brewer. Any of you remember him?

Only one cap for his country but I always remember his cute offload in Dublin

by dummy_half Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:35 am

mckay1402 wrote:James mclaren for Scotland?

That's one of the possibly correct answers for Scotland - There seems to be some dispute (on Wikipedia) as to whether he was a capped international in RL, but he was definitely the first pro League to Union convert capped for Scotland RU.

Still missing the answer for France - as far as I can see, they have only had one dual code international.

by Seagultaf Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:56 pm

No 5 Llanelli wing Lewis Jones played for Wales at RU between 1950 to 52 and played for the British Lions in 1950. He was capped for Wales Rugby league in 1953 and Great Britain from 1954.

So he played for both Wales and GB at both Union and League!

by dummy_half Wed Mar 05, 2014 2:47 pm

Seagultaf wrote:No 5 Llanelli wing Lewis Jones played for Wales at RU between 1950 to 52 and played for the British Lions in 1950. He was capped for Wales Rugby league in 1953 and Great Britain from 1954.

So he played for both Wales and GB at both Union and League!

Now that's pretty good going - I think Jiffy missed out on similar because he transferred to Widnes before the Lions tour that he was a racing certainty to go on - represented both GB and Wales at League. Scott Quinnell only played RL for Wales, not GB (Scott Gibbs appears to be similar)

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