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Who will win this Amlin 1/4 final?

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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Tue 02 Apr 2013, 9:19 am

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Morning all I thought I'd get the ball rolling on this one.

It's been a while since these two teams faced off, way back to 2009 where Wasps deservedly beat Leinster 19-12 on Leinster's road to their first ever HCup. This was in contrast to the 41-11 win Leinster achieved in October against the same opposition in Dublin.

Leinster were on a great run of form up until this Saturday when they were beaten by Ulster, they now lie in 3rd place in the Rabo league. They find themselves in an odd situation as they and their supporters would consider themselves Heineken Cup big timers and being in the lower tier of Europe I am sure ruffles a few feathers. They have some high profile absentees notably; O'Driscoll, Sexton and Reddan which constitutes a large amount of quality and experience that will not be present.

Wasps find themselves in 7th pace of the Aviva Premiership in the depths of a 4 game losing streak. Some close defeats to Northampton and Worcester compounded by a drubbing to London Irish and a first league home loss to Saracens. Not ideal. Some danger men have just returned from Six Nations duty names like Masi and Launchberry significantly strengthen the side.

So where will the game be decided?
Who will get ascendancy at the breakdown and set pieces?
Who are the danger men coming into this game?
What are the prospective teams?

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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:10 pm

ISA ISA ISA ISA ISA ISA ISA ISA ISA ISA ISA ISA ISA ISA

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Post by formerly known as Sam Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:10 pm

Palmer is missing tackles all over the shop.

Madigan vs Wade for MOTM it seems. Let the shoot out commence.

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Post by Golden Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:11 pm

Wonder what madigans stats from the tee are for the last 5/6 games, I cant remember him missing one in a good while

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Post by Thomond Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:11 pm

Íosa Nacewa you freaking beauty, great stuff from him, will be a big loss.

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Post by mikey_philVIII Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:12 pm

Kicking for goal Headscratch

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Post by Golden Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:13 pm

Madigan almost gets the rub of the green there

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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:13 pm

Jesus Toner is playing well tonight

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Post by yappysnap Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:17 pm

That wasn't high!

Just a massive tackle!

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Post by yappysnap Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:17 pm

Utter Love sacks

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Post by Cumbrian Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:17 pm

That's a joke. That was nowhere near a high hit.
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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:18 pm

Not high

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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:21 pm

Wasp set pieces beginning to creak, don't think that penalty went the right way and the lineout is now definitely under pressure

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Post by yappysnap Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:23 pm

Wasps pack have given up almost. Need to think about their fitness next season as second half performances all year have been poor.

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Post by SecretFly Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:26 pm

That's the addition Kearney can be when he's playing a game designed to attack.

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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:26 pm

that's game

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Post by mikey_philVIII Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:26 pm

Well that's the game... Well done Leinster.

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:26 pm

SOB is my hero. Best irish backrower by miles!!

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:27 pm

Kearney is looking fantastic. 8 defenders beaten, when he attacks and doesn't run straight into contact, he is one of the best counter attacking fullbacks around.

O'Brien is also having a stormer. No surprises there though!

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Post by yappysnap Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:27 pm

Boom, Wasps can't live with the intensity.

Get the feeling that they're a few quality players short in the pack for this level of competition.

Haskell would have been useful as well. Johnson is good but can only do about 50 mins at his best intensity.

Well played Leinster, showing some class tonight. Madigan for MoM or SOB?

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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:27 pm

SecretFly wrote:That's the addition Kearney can be when he's playing a game designed to attack.

I think Kearney has looked pretty bad this game I gotta say, decision making has been poor.

Great scrum to win against the head

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Post by yappysnap Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:28 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Kearney is looking fantastic. 8 defenders beaten, when he attacks and doesn't run straight into contact, he is one of the best counter attacking fullbacks around.

O'Brien is also having a stormer. No surprises there though!

Kearney reminds me a lot of Mike Brown.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:28 pm

Good comparison actually.

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Post by yappysnap Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:29 pm

Hhhmmm no knock on there, Southwell juggled it and then cought it.

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Post by yappysnap Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:31 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Good comparison actually.

Yea wasn't meant as an arrogant comment or anything, both just have that vision to run at oppos shoulders and never get taken down by the first man. Can see why there were so many people going on about him for the Lions now even when he was off form. He's a far more traditional 15 then Halfpenny.

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Post by yappysnap Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:32 pm

Well played Wasps, good commitment for that try but they need at least another with no points conceded to even stand a chance of a fight back.

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Post by yappysnap Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:33 pm

And they need Robinson to learn to kick picard 13 points down the drain so far

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Post by SecretFly Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:33 pm

Don't lose focus Leinster.... keep it tight

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Post by Cumbrian Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:33 pm

Wasps could be a competitor if they sorted their defence out and added a bit of extra nous in their forwards. The tools are there for them to be an exceptional side.
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Post by Golden Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:34 pm

Isa is in!

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:34 pm

Incredible hands by D'Arcy. He has been great tonight.

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Post by Golden Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:34 pm

66 points scored in 67 minutes

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Post by yappysnap Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:35 pm

What a brilliant game this has been

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Post by Golden Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:35 pm

Great kick

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Post by Golden Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:37 pm

Great attitude by Wasps.

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Post by yappysnap Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:38 pm

Cumbrian wrote:Wasps could be a competitor if they sorted their defence out and added a bit of extra nous in their forwards. The tools are there for them to be an exceptional side.

You say that but they're actually massively over achieving in my view. In the pack they have pretty average props and then Lindsay, Launchberry, Vunipola and Johnson are all very raw players who drift in and out of games. Palmer is almost over the hill and Wentzel seems only good for lineouts.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:39 pm

Vunipola is another player England must look at for the future. He reminds me of a young Nick Williams. At 20 years of age, that is remarkable.

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Post by yappysnap Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:40 pm

Another good try for Wasps. Cracking game.

73 points in 72 minutes, an Amlin CC record for the play offs?

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Post by Cumbrian Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:42 pm

I was more referring to their backs, they are deadly when they can create a little space.
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Post by Golden Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:45 pm

Why the drop goal there? would he not have tried something

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Post by yappysnap Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:45 pm

Why concede the penalty 30m's down field Wasps?? Just drop the maul after a couple of metres if you're going to do it!

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Post by Guest Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:45 pm

yappysnap wrote:And they need Robinson to learn to kick picard 13 points down the drain so far

That, plus the wrong decision for the non high shot and it could be a one point game. Plus I think Leinster 17 (I think) could've been yellowed for that blatant penalty in the red zone.

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Post by yappysnap Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:46 pm

Cumbrian wrote:I was more referring to their backs, they are deadly when they can create a little space.

Yea sorry wasn't trying to be negative. Their backs are deadly, just imagine if they had Saints pack. (And Dai Young forced the forwards to give the backs the ball sometimes).

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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:47 pm

Agree that Darcy has been outstanding

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Post by Pot Hale Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:47 pm

Leinster should be playing in the Amlin all the time. Makes it a much better competition. Smile
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Post by yappysnap Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:47 pm

Exactly, imagine how much more exciting this game would now be if it was a one point game rather then a bit of a drubbing.

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Post by Pot Hale Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:49 pm

Who says it's a drubbing? Wasps have fought from start to finish.
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Post by Pot Hale Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:50 pm

Two good nights coming up in the RDS - no matter who goes through.
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Post by Guest Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:50 pm

Congratulations Leinster. Good win.

Enjoyed every minute of that though.

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Post by Golden Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:52 pm

Perpignan 30-19 toulouse

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Post by Thomond Fri 05 Apr 2013, 9:54 pm

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