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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 17 Mar 2013, 1:10 pm

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Breaking News: One point now separates the bottom three teams after London Wasps home win against Saracens.

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2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 - Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish






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2 Homepage - Page 10 7Harlequins19130 6 496 459 +37 54 48 3 5 60
3 Homepage - Page 10 2Gloucester19130 6 492 443 +49 56 45 3 4 59
4 Homepage - Page 10 8Newcastle Falcons19111 7 474 441 +33 50 41 1 7 54
5 Homepage - Page 10 12Sale Sharks19 11 0 8 484 455 +29 52 46 2 8 54
6 Homepage - Page 10 9Northampton Saints19101 8 476 459 +17 50 47 2 7 51
7 Homepage - Page 10 5London Irish1910 0 9 479 465 +14 51 46 2 8 50
8 Homepage - Page 10 50London Welsh17 8 3 8 446 433 +13 47 42 0 8 46
9 Homepage - Page 10 1Bath Rugby1990 10 449 462 -13 44 49 0 8 44
10 Homepage - Page 10 11Saracens1941 14 393 479 -86 34 52 0 725
11 Homepage - Page 10 57Worcester Warriors1931 15 411 465 -54 36 51 1 9 24
12 Homepage - Page 10 6London Wasps 1930 16 378 481 -103 33 54 0 12 24






Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 24 Mar 2013, 5:00 pm

anonmattyt wrote:Halfpenny did not go on last lions tour

Pretty sure he did

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 24 Mar 2013, 5:01 pm

He flew out late and then injury recurred.

makes sense to me from Gatland.

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Post by Driver Sun 24 Mar 2013, 5:05 pm

He joined up after 2 weeks , was named originally but had hamstring injury and was left at home to rehab , i remember him coming on in a warm up game.
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Post by Guest Sun 24 Mar 2013, 5:18 pm

It will be sexton and Farrell with laid law as 9/10

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 24 Mar 2013, 5:50 pm

Results and table updated. Shows how tight the middle of the league is, after getting a losing bonus point this week I drop from 6th to 8th!!!
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Post by Guest Sun 24 Mar 2013, 6:06 pm

I have Quins at home and sale and Newcastle away.

Sale have a gentler run in than glos

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 24 Mar 2013, 6:14 pm

I've got Bath and Irish away, and Saints and Worcester at home. All big games in the battle for a Heino spot.
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Post by Fluxy Sun 24 Mar 2013, 6:23 pm

I don't believe Gatland would say what he did, thats ruling out Phillips going! Think he'd back track on that a lot.


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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 24 Mar 2013, 6:24 pm

Gloucester (A), Bath (H), Worcester (A) and Saints (H).

I needed to win against Saracens to get some daylight. 10 points between myself and 5th will hopefully be enough to stay in the play offs.

Chances of a home semi greatly increased with a win this weekend!

Great league this year.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 24 Mar 2013, 6:28 pm

Phillips in no danger of missing out as Bayonne no where near play offs so he should be done on May 4th, so likely earlier than most other tourists.

Its those playing at the french clubs near the top of the table who are vunerable. Although Hines missed the Top 14 final to go on the last Lions tour so if selected to go on tour to the land of his birth I'd expect him to tour.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 24 Mar 2013, 6:28 pm

Fluxy, I dont think Bayonne are doing very well in the league, so no issue with Phillips not being available. Chose a bad club really, but I bet he's paid very well!

Just got back from the Sarries game, coldest I have ever been watching a rugby game. But got to have a little go on the pitch afterwards, a few of the Sarries players were passing the ball about with the fans after the game, which was a nice touch.

Robshaw looked absolutely knackered - could have done with a week or two off.

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Post by stnick88 Mon 25 Mar 2013, 10:00 am

is it a nice stadium Chris?

Looks it on TV! only saw the ITV highlights last night. Craig Doyle was wearing a hell of a pair of trousers. Bright orange. Shocker!

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 25 Mar 2013, 10:24 am

It's an odd stadium Nick - they have one great stand, but then the rest isn't as good because of the running track they have there. so they have two temporary stands they bring in on match days behind the posts and a really old stand and again temporary seating opposite the big stand.

Its only 10,000 seats, but they reckon it will be given permission to extend to 20,000.

They've put a lot of emphasis on supporting the local community and the pitch is in use pretty much 24/7 as you can't damage it - wont be long until every club has an artificial pitch like that - really easy to get to the ground too, was about 5mins from the motorway.


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Post by Driver Mon 25 Mar 2013, 12:45 pm

Squeeky bum time now for the top of table. This could be our best finish yet!
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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 25 Mar 2013, 12:57 pm

Squeaky bum time right through the table mate. If this weeks games go the way of home wins with no TBP and a LBP for the losers, we'll look like this with 3 rounds to go...

Tigers 65
Quins 61
Gloucester 58
Sharks 54
Falcons 51
Saints 51
Irish 50
Welsh 46
Bath 44
Worcester 27
Saracens 25
Wasps 24


If that's the case, only really then myself and Bath with nothing to play for.
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Post by Driver Mon 25 Mar 2013, 12:59 pm

I'v got a tough little run in with

Worcester
Welsh (ECC)
Irish
Gloucester
Wasps
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Post by stnick88 Mon 25 Mar 2013, 1:00 pm

I'll take that!!

Think I need one more win to stay up. Targetting you this week Driver!

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Post by Driver Mon 25 Mar 2013, 1:07 pm

I need a win this week to stay in top 4 contention! It's on Nick!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 25 Mar 2013, 1:12 pm

POC & Brussow had big games this weekend Driver.

Heard Gatland talking saying he'd be keeping an eye on players coming back from injury like Bowe, Lydiate, POC etc

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 25 Mar 2013, 1:28 pm

Potential Aus lineup?

1. Robinson
2. Moore
3. Alexander
4. Simmons
5. Horwill/Fardy
6. Higginbottom
7. Hooper/Gill
8. Mowen/Auelua

9. Genia
10. Beale
11. Ioane
12. Lealiifano
13. AAC
14. JOC
15. Mogg

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 25 Mar 2013, 1:35 pm

Difficult to predict the Aus lineup with any certainty really. Beale appears to be on some sort of self destruct mission at present, and a number of players have proved a little injury prone over the past 18 months.

The front row should be as you suggest, as those three are streets ahead of the the next players in line for the shirts. Locks are anyones guess, as it the make up of the back row.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 25 Mar 2013, 1:38 pm

Beale has been dire this season. Cooper miles ahead of him.

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Post by Fluxy Mon 25 Mar 2013, 1:41 pm

Cooper will start if Genia is fit. Biggest selection issue is their back five. Wouldn't be surprised to see Timani and Horwill just to combat the possible power and give them some bite.

I reckon their backrow could be 6. Mowen 7. Hooper then eight could be a big carrier like Palu or Aeulea?

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Post by Driver Mon 25 Mar 2013, 1:42 pm

I honestly think we'll white was Aus.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 25 Mar 2013, 1:44 pm

If I was Oz boss I'd go

1. Robinson
2. Moore
3. Alexander
4. Timani
5. Horwill
6. Higginbottom
7. Hooper
8. Mowen
9. Genia
10. Cooper
11. Ioane
12. McCabe
13. Faainga
14. JOC
15. Mogg

Not all that impressed by AAC at 13 and he isn't better than either winger. Mogg's form can't be ignored.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 25 Mar 2013, 1:46 pm

Mogg has to get a start.

Mowen is in top form and should start ahead of Higginbotham.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 25 Mar 2013, 1:46 pm

Yea it's tough, could maybe swap Beale for Cooper if he plays well. Will Deans let him back in the fold though?

Mogg & Lealiifano have been great.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 25 Mar 2013, 1:47 pm

I don't think we'll whitewash Oz unless they lose Genia for the series. Everyone else replaceable except him.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 25 Mar 2013, 1:49 pm

"Not all that impressed by AAC at 13 and he isn't better than either winger. Mogg's form can't be ignored"

AAC has been really at 13, he was in Aussie team of round this week.

He'll be starting 13 unless shunted in the back 3, proven top draw performer.

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Post by Fluxy Mon 25 Mar 2013, 1:50 pm

Genia and Cooper are their biggest worries if they get injured. Not much behind them that are in form. Even at seven if hooper gets crocked George Smith played brilliantly against the stormers

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Post by stnick88 Mon 25 Mar 2013, 1:51 pm

Some of the turnovers Smith got against the Stormers were superb.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 25 Mar 2013, 1:51 pm

Gill also playing very well.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 25 Mar 2013, 1:52 pm

Stormers vs. Brumbies was a quality game. Some massive collisions.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 25 Mar 2013, 1:53 pm

I don't think Cooper is an injury worry, Aus have looked fine without him and he's proved to be more a problem on the Int stage than a top player.

Barnes could possibly play 10 if fit.

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Post by stnick88 Mon 25 Mar 2013, 2:09 pm

If Cooper plays 10 the Lions will massively target his defence.

Remember that England game when people were running through him for fun, I remember Cueto making him look silly on one occasion.

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Post by prop_lyd Mon 25 Mar 2013, 2:15 pm

Day off and heading back to the flat now, what game from the weekend would people reccomend?
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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 25 Mar 2013, 2:15 pm

Been a obvious improvement in his defence this season. Still a weakness but it has improved.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 25 Mar 2013, 2:17 pm

Saints v Sarries was good.

I'm going to watch Brumbies later.

Believe it when I see it with Cooper Steve

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 25 Mar 2013, 2:18 pm

Watch the weekends game then. His cover tackle possibly won the game for Reds in the last play.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 25 Mar 2013, 2:20 pm

I think it was him at least. would have to double check.

Point is he was class at the weekend and is the obvious first choice 10.

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Post by Driver Mon 25 Mar 2013, 2:20 pm

Mike Blair to Newcastle Falcons is doing the rounds today
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 25 Mar 2013, 2:23 pm

Cooper obvious first choice 10 after 1 good game?

I think he needs a lot more than that personally, his stock is pretty low at the minute.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 25 Mar 2013, 2:26 pm

Yea I seen that one Driver, Laidlaw last week and Blair this.

I'd be happy with either tbh, anybody is an improvement on Lawson who is gash.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 25 Mar 2013, 2:32 pm

Who else? Beale as Pete says is on a self destruct mission and Barnes and JOC aren't 10's. Toomua playing well but needs a dream of season.

Current 10's for Oz sides

Rebels: Kurtley Beale/Angus Roberts
Waratahs: Foley
Reds: Cooper
Force: Ebersohn
Brumbies Toomua.

Foley and Toomua playing well but are they better than Cooper. of course not.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 25 Mar 2013, 2:35 pm

Beale was playing poorly at FB when he switched to FH and done well, similar with JOC who was impressive against Wales.

I don't rate Cooper at all and I feel he'll have to be on fire to get the nod after upsetting the the ARU last season.

I still think it'll be:

Beale
Barnes
JOC
Cooper

In that order, unless Cooper rediscovers his 2010 form.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 25 Mar 2013, 2:41 pm

Beale has done nothing of note at 10. 15 he is a great player if not pretty susceptible defensively.

Genia/Cooper the obvious option for me.

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Post by Guest Mon 25 Mar 2013, 2:42 pm

Barnes will start in one position he is one of best players in the world he is out for 5 weeks so will be for presuming he does not get crocked beforehand

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 25 Mar 2013, 2:43 pm

Beale was very impressive for Aus in the AI.

I think your Cooper man love is blinding you Steve lol

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 25 Mar 2013, 2:48 pm

But he has been poor of late and who knows what role he will play for the Rebels from this point forward.

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