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Breaking News: Former London Irish boss stnick88 returns in charge of Worcester Warriors and Quins win the top of the table clash with Tigers to narrow the gap between the two teams to a single point.

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.

Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.

Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

• Domestic (other AP Teams)
  Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  
  
• Domestic (Championship and below)
  Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  
  
• Foreign
  To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  
  Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.
  

Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.

The gingers always look young

anonmattyt wrote:I would have Scott light years ahead of Williams who
For me is garbage and lacks a rugby brain.
Tuilagi not a 12 and 36 unproven at international unlike Scott who plays in a poor side and does well.

JD is a 13 and not a 12

Frak off Matt williams has grand slam anf rwc semi what does scott havr?

Driver wrote:

anonmattyt wrote:I would have Scott light years ahead of Williams who
For me is garbage and lacks a rugby brain.
Tuilagi not a 12 and 36 unproven at international unlike Scott who plays in a poor side and does well.

JD is a 13 and not a 12

Frak off Matt williams has grand slam anf rwc semi what does scott havr?

Driver wrote:Oriestland is gash, pior player in s good sideat the ti
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Driver, you genius, two completely contradictory quotes in the early hours. Williams must be good as he played in a grand slam winning side who reached a RWC semi final, but Priestland who did the same is a poor player who played in a good side. This despite Priestland being first choice at the time and Williams a bit part.

Did you have a few shandys last night by any chance???

Table updated, getting very congested in the middle. Big games this week with 2nd placed Quins at home to leaders Leicester, 4th placed Sale coming to the Kassam, Bath and Irish who are level on points facing off, and the bottom three all with home games against the teams in 3rd, 5th and 6th. Very real chance of the league getting even tighter this week with the lower placed team at home in all but one match.

I think driver may be a tad red faced this morning Pete. Got to love the aggressive language and all. Table is tight. Top 4 getting congested with only Leicester pretty much nailed on

Current form guide (for anyone who takes form/momentum into consideration in their predictions).

SALE SHARKS WWWWWW (11 game winning streak)
LONDON WELSH WWWWWD (12 games unbeaten, 10 wins 2 draws)
GLOUCESTER WWWLWW
BATH RUGBY WWWWLW
LEICESTER TIGERS WWWLWD
HARLEQUINS LWWLWW
SARACENS LWWWLW
WORCESTER WARRIORS LWWWWL
NEWCASTLE FALCONS WLWLWL
LONDON WASPS LWWWLL
NORTHAMPTON SAINTS LWWWLL
LONDON IRISH LLLLWL

Driver was on fire last night lol

He managed to behave badly in the cyber world so imagine what he was like in reality. He might have woken up with a man this morning!!!!!

I think the spelling police may be paying him a visit lol.

anonmattyt wrote:He managed to behave badly in the cyber world so imagine what he was like in reality. He might have woken up with a man this morning!!!!!

Or a sheep!!

Or both

That form guide is a little misleading as sides generally only go full strength in AP and theres only 2 AP games included?!?!

The majority of LV & Amlin games are hardly competitive.

You used to love using stats to illustrate your point pooly. To be fair SJE and Pete unbeaten in 12 is pretty comprehensively a winning streak.

Wipe off the middle 4 games and it looks more realistic.

11 winning streak is impressive

Form is form irrespective of what competition it's in. Every team goes out to win every game, irrespective of what side is put out.

Little different beating Prato and losing to Leinster.

Form isn't just winning (beating dross), it needs to be put in perspective.

Not sure I agree in terms of effect. Look at Exeter in real life. Losses in Europe have had an effect on them, they are now struggling for form a bit, whereas Gloucester and Wasps who won well in the Amlin are now firing and in form.

Not sure I agree on that one, I think that's more to do with the loss of Int players rather than beating a poor side in a poor comp.

Glos expected to lose yesterday without Morgan and burns . Saints were massive favourites in the betting

Glos doing very well Mat, they are going to be a very good team next year, but from the sounds of it Wasps have a few more good signings on their way too.

We've just got a new millionaire backer, looking for a new ground and hopefully good times back for the black and gold. Now just fingers crossed Parisse is our replacement for Billy V.

Right folks

prop is going to take over London Irish, and there will be a 5 player transfer between Worcester and Irish which is this...

To Irish: tipuric, morgan, gorgodze, higginbotham, mccarthy
To Worcester: muller, rennie, spies, basteraud, delon

I will caretake Worcester unless anybody knows someone who wants to take over on a permanent basis.

Good to hear that Prop will be staying involved!

Better to hear I wont be having to play Gorgodze next week!

Just in terms of looking at Worcester think they've been done a bit there and although I can see why this is happening as Prop deserves it, it seems like its cutting them loose away from becoming part of the middle pack

I'll sort Worcester until we get a new manager, they won't get cut loose.

Just looking at this in terms of next week now, players will need time to settle right. Would rather not play Gorgoze two weeks in a row

First job with Worcester now is strengthening the back row, so am around for a bit for any offers.

Cheers all, Irish is up and running now.....never been this high in the table!!

Kaino and Dupuy are available

These are the Worcester Warriors players who are available.

HK Gary Botha (South Africa)
HK Dave Ward (England)
PR Chris Budgen (England) (TH)
PR Oliver Tomaszczyk (England) (TH)
PR Nathan Catt (England) (LH)
PR BJ Botha (South Africa) (TH/LH)
PR Tendai Mtwarira (South Africa) (LH)
PR Craig Mitchell (Wales) (TH)
LK Dean Schofield (England)
LK Luke Charteris (Wales)
LK Leo Cullen (Ireland)
LK Ollie Kohn (Wales)
FL Kearnan Myall (England) (BS)
FL Ross Rennie (Scotland) (OS)
FL Shane Jennings (Ireland) (OS)
N8 Pierre Spies (South Africa)

Backs:
SH Tawera Kerr-Barlow (Australia/New Zealand)
SH Dwayne Peel (Wales)
SH Eion Reddan (Ireland)
FH Morne Steyn (South Africa)
FH/CE/FB Marcelo Bosch (Argentina)
FH/CE/FB Sam Vesty (England)
CE Olly Barkley (England) (FH)
CE Jon Clarke (England)
CE Yannick Jauzion (France)
CE Fergus McFadden (Ireland) (WG)
WG Marcel Garvey (England)
WG/CE Julien Malzieu (France)
FB Rob Cook (England)
FB Olly Morgan (England)

Academy:
Senior

HK Koree Britton (England) 04/03/92
PR Samson Lee (Wales) 30/11/92
LK Dominic Barrow (England) 19/03/93
LK Juan Cruz Guilemain (Argentina) 21/08/92
FH Kyle Godwin (Australia) 30/07/92
CE Jack Dixon (Wales) 13/12/94
FB Ben Ransom (England) 16/02/92

If you want anyone please make an offer rather than telling me who you are interested in. For Worcester I am looking to improve them at tighthead, back row and centre (12) as priorities.

Woooo! No hangover!!!!

Good start from England. Defence looking excellent with low error count so far.

Thank god Sexton kicked that!

Rory Best's throwing isn't good enough

Great steal Parling

Good play from Parling rather than Best imo

Both under throws. He needs to address it.

Best poor lineout its his weakness. Irish gypsy Healy will be getting a ban. Red card every day

Not for me, first one was

England struggling to get the ball to 8 in the scrum. Getting caught in the row.

Another dream pass by BOD. Need to take advantage of all Ireland's handling errors.

Lol heaslip having such a mare.

Heaslip having a mare

Ireland melting heaslip and bod making errors. Rare

Jamie Heaslip having a nightmare of a first 30. England started well. Would like to see us keep the ball in hand once or twice to try and do some damage.

This is ROG's sort of game. Could be a blessing for Ireland.

Healy giving Cole loads of issues

Great minds etc etc

Cole is all over Healy. Could not disagree more. Cole is beating him all hands up

Cole binding on arm every scrum, going backwards too. Healy really giving him issues

Scrum is a mess - neither side really on top.

England pressure is immense. Mike McCarthy having the mare of all mares