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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 11 Oct 2012, 4:38 pm

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Second win of the season for Saracens and defeats for Welsh, Wasps and Worcester mean there is just 3 points between the bottom four.

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2 Homepage 8Newcastle Falcons860 2 202 181 +21 20 15 0 2 26
3 Homepage 9Northampton Saints850 3 213 189 +24 24 19 2 3 25
4 Homepage 5London Irish8 5 0 3 210 194 +16 23 20 2 3 25
5 Homepage 7Harlequins850 3 198 189 +9 21 20 1 3 24
6 Homepage 12Sale Sharks8 4 0 4 199 189 +10 21 19 1 4 21
7 Homepage 2Gloucester840 4 193 192 +1 21 20 0 3 19
8 Homepage 1Bath Rugby840 4 185 193 -17 17 21 0 3 19
9 Homepage 50London Welsh8 2 0 6 179 188 -9 18 18 0 6 14
10 Homepage 6London Wasps820 6 172 195 -23 16 21 0 5 13
11 Homepage 57Worcester Warriors820 6 175 208 -33 15 22 0 3 11
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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalisst - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Driver Thu 11 Oct 2012, 4:48 pm

Kaboom!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 11 Oct 2012, 5:33 pm

POC is back Very Happy

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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 11 Oct 2012, 5:39 pm

He'll play this week and next and then be injured again until after Christmas Laugh
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Post by Driver Thu 11 Oct 2012, 5:40 pm

Just the way he rolls , absolute class on his day though.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 11 Oct 2012, 5:45 pm

Just likes his rest Pete, you know how it is when you get to our age

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Post by Driver Thu 11 Oct 2012, 5:54 pm

You were 5 coats and a scalf to a rugby match is how you know your old these days


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 11 Oct 2012, 6:02 pm

All about the comfort Driver

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 11 Oct 2012, 8:51 pm

Stupid from Gloucester.

Love Tindall - "That's the 2nd time that fat guy has done that"

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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 11 Oct 2012, 8:56 pm

Hazell just completely lost it.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 11 Oct 2012, 8:59 pm

It looked like nothing too, maybe he gave him the sly finger up the ass?!?!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 11 Oct 2012, 9:04 pm

36 looking classy, lovely kicking game.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 11 Oct 2012, 9:06 pm

Spoke too soon

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu 11 Oct 2012, 9:06 pm

Turned over...what did hazel do?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 11 Oct 2012, 9:11 pm

Decided to punch the s**t out of some fat bloke laying face down in the mud.

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Post by Guest Thu 11 Oct 2012, 9:41 pm

Anyone have Gael ficu ?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 11 Oct 2012, 9:42 pm

SJE has him

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 11 Oct 2012, 9:42 pm

How many weeks ban do you think he will get for that? Havent seen anything like that in rugby for a little while - well not since Tigers and Saints usually play anyhow!

Wonder what made him do it!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 11 Oct 2012, 9:44 pm

looks like a decent win for Gloucester tonight. Side nowhere near full strength

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Post by Guest Thu 11 Oct 2012, 9:44 pm

3 weeks? Be interesting to see of they get French gouging ?


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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 11 Oct 2012, 9:50 pm

just come across a list of players who have came through the Hurricanes region who they have failed to hold on to

9.Aaron Smith/Piri Weepu
10.Aaron Cruden/Lima Sopoaga
11.Hosea Gear/Jason Woodward
12.Ma'a Nonu/Charlie Ngatai/Shaun Treeby
13.Robbie Fruean/Jason Emery
14.Zac Guildford/Waisake Naholo
15.Israel Dagg/Andrew Horrell/Kurt Baker

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 11 Oct 2012, 10:13 pm

Been some big back row shifts in OZ this year.

Scott Higginbottom to Rebels, Hooper to Tahs and Pocock to Brumbies.

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 12 Oct 2012, 7:35 am

Mat see Gloucester are saying that the French guy gouged Hazell possibly 3 times before he snapped! Can't believe pro players are still doing that, IRB should look at far longer bans for that now - weird why it happens a lot in France, played there a few times and couldn't stand playing French teams due to all the off the ball stuff!

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Post by Guest Fri 12 Oct 2012, 8:55 am

Hazell is not a dirty player in anyway. he accepted his sending off well and said he 100% agreed. knew it would be gouging.

Hazell is used to getting smashed as he is a real scrapper for the ball. gouging is the worst thing in rugby

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Post by stnick88 Fri 12 Oct 2012, 9:42 am

anyone got a video link for it? Heard Hazell went in!

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 12 Oct 2012, 9:46 am

Why did the other Gloucester player get a yellow? Didnt seem to do anything wrong?

Was quite lucky the whole game didnt seriously kick off after that - the Gloucester doctor took pictures of Hazell's eyes as soon as he came off as they were apparently very red and showed signs of having contact in there. Sounds like there is video proof too - got to rid the game of gouging.

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Post by stnick88 Fri 12 Oct 2012, 9:50 am

such a cowardly and scummy thing to do. bans should be massive for that, longer than they usually are.

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Post by Guest Fri 12 Oct 2012, 9:55 am

Cox ran in from miles away off the ball to confront the player. it was a definite yellow because of his intention.

The ref team last night were fairly weak but did say we may have missed something bad but its up to the citing committee to work it out so not all bad.

good win for glos. Good to see Clark get a try. boy is some finisher although anyone could have scored his last night. he already looks bigger than he did pre season. still tiny though

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 12 Oct 2012, 2:50 pm

Just looking through the teams for the games this weekend. Forget how strong Clermont are, along with Toulon and Toulouse. Between those and Leinster to win it for me.

Tigers back row is 6. Mafi 7. Waldrom 8. Crane - be interesting to see how that goes vs Nyanga, Dus and Picamoles.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 12 Oct 2012, 2:54 pm

Leicester going to match the physicallity I think. You never know with Leicester but I don't think they will win.

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 12 Oct 2012, 3:55 pm

Which English club will do best in this year's HC?

Would say Saints could, but think they always come unstuck with their fly half - they've got to try and sign George Ford this summer as I don't think either Myler or Lamb are good enough at this level.

Tigers could be ok - but not as strong as they used to be, but think they've found a couple of gems in their backline when they play Morris as fb and Goneva.

Quins will qualify in their group, but all of their chances rest of keeping Evans fit.

Sarries I can't see them doing that well as they just don't have the offence to attack and cause teams problems.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 12 Oct 2012, 3:58 pm

I fancy Edinburgh to reach the final. I was optimistic of Sale's chances of at least being competitive in their group until we started this season

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Post by Guest Fri 12 Oct 2012, 4:00 pm

Leicester for me are weak in the backs.

Goneva looks ok but is not great at some of the basics and will get exposed.

Not seen any of morris really. looked ok in the one game i saw.

Think Quins are maybe the best bet but they have some hard games and are massively reliant on evans

Agree re sarries chris- Heino team has to be able to attack as winning and bonus points are worth so much in it

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Post by stnick88 Fri 12 Oct 2012, 4:06 pm

If an English team dont win it I'd like Toulon to win it (purely because of the Armitage brothers).

Saints will struggle I think. Sarries and Quins i can see doing quite well. quins group easy and need Evans

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 12 Oct 2012, 4:07 pm

Morris is pretty much a young version of Geordan Murphy - very similar, didnt realise he was 24 though!

Tuilagi changes the Leicester backline completely when he plays - just not the same as they were when pretty much every Tiger was an international!

Just hope we get 2-3 English clubs out of the group stages - Quins should do it, but Biaritz are a hard team, but then I think its Zebre and Connacht? If Evans stays fit they win that group.

Sarries will just be hard to beat, win home games but can't see how they will win away or pick up bp's.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 12 Oct 2012, 4:14 pm

Morris is steady but not really good enough for HC, think Tigers will struggle to get out of their group.

Looking forward to seeing Ulster, they've been fantastic in the Rab

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 12 Oct 2012, 4:16 pm

John Mitchell likely to be announced as Sale's new forwards coach.

cracking addition on paper

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 12 Oct 2012, 5:33 pm

Morris is easily good enough for HC Pooly, completely solid under the high ball, very good attacker too. Guess we will see at Toulouse!

Leicester will be ok if they can get on the front foot in the forwards and Youngs keeps up from last week.

Real shame Salvi is injured for them though, he's been playing very well, not sure how Waldroum will do at openside.

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 12 Oct 2012, 5:42 pm

Here's the Andy Hazell incident...probably get taken down from rugbydump soon though!

http://www.rugbydump.com/2012/10/2795/gloucesters-andy-hazell-sees-red-following-alleged-eye-gouge

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Post by Driver Fri 12 Oct 2012, 5:45 pm

Tigers might be asking a bit too much of Dan Cole at 3 , Can't see anyone else who's work on the deck is up there to steal ball 4 or 5 times a game.

Mind you Nyanga isn't the typical fetcher.

Glad to see Crane at 8 , been Tigers best player since he's been back by most reports , can only be good for England.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 12 Oct 2012, 5:48 pm

I don't think Morris is good enough to help tigers through to later rounds, think he's very average.

He'd probably be 3rd choice when everyone fit. Not quite sure what you've seen in him, he'd struggle to get in any other AP side.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 12 Oct 2012, 5:50 pm

Didn't realise you had him on here!! Wondered why you were so defensive

I'd release him and sign Arscott, at least he's English (and probably a better player)

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 12 Oct 2012, 5:51 pm

Not an average fb - isnt a winger though.

Think he got 4-5 tries in 3 games last year - scored at the weekend and had Will Greenwood saying how good a game he played. Think he's doing alright mate.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 12 Oct 2012, 5:53 pm

Fair enough, as long as you rate him. Might kick on, he's only a kid isn't he??

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 12 Oct 2012, 5:56 pm

14 games, 5 tries last season

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Post by Driver Fri 12 Oct 2012, 5:59 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:14 games, 5 tries last season

Stat attack!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 12 Oct 2012, 6:00 pm

You need them with "Chris facts" lol

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Post by Driver Fri 12 Oct 2012, 6:04 pm

8 trys in 5 games including a hat trick vs Munster.


Now tell me Tim Visser is a poor player world!!!!!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 12 Oct 2012, 6:04 pm

I do like Visser tbh

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 12 Oct 2012, 6:05 pm

He's no Niall Morris though lol

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