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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:39 pm

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Task One

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Our original Reading squad:
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Original Starting XI:
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Transfers in
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Transfers out
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Final 25 man squad:
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Final Starting XI:
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The Warriors:
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Viva - The Brains
Sodhat - The Pretty Face
Bull - The Cleaner
TwisT - The whipping boy

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:06 pm

Right guys it seems we have around £10M to spend. If we are to sign a striker we need to release two more players, and we seem to have an abundance of midfielders, so I would look to cut from there.

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Post by TwisT Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:22 pm

So how do you guys communicate? Via PM. I have a couple of targets we could go for after a bit of research

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:22 pm

We communicate via spoilers.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:21 pm

Alright men. We have to find a final striker, with £10m in our kitty. Then we will have to release two more players, to get down to a final 25. I want us to have this decided by Sunday evening.

Then we can use Monday to get a presentation of what we have done, and how we plan to keep Reading up done.

(Also think of little things we can do to help, like Soddy's yoga, and my ticket solution.)

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Post by Bull Sat Jul 14, 2012 1:08 pm

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Post by TwisT Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:38 pm

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Post by Bull Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:48 pm

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Post by Bull Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:52 pm

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Post by TwisT Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:00 pm

Let's see what the others think OK

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Post by sodhat Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:07 pm

Cole/Santa Cruz don't really offer much that Pogs doesn't, and Rodallega has just moved to Fulham so he's out.

Frazier Campbell is a very good call though, I could see him working out for Reading, definitely.

Becks would be unattainable for me, but Bentley would work at RW. I also suggested Pennant earlier and I don't think he can be dismissed easily.

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Post by Bull Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:13 pm

cant see becks moving to us at all he sated he would only join united if he ever moved.

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Post by TwisT Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:16 pm

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Post by sodhat Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:17 pm

Campbell > Rhodes in this instance because we know he can score in the Prem

Cahill would be good but realistically I can't see Everton wanting to let him go

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Post by TwisT Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:22 pm

Barton? Now that is a very controversial suggestion Laugh

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:15 pm

TwisT we are going to stick with what Reading played last season. And that is a 4-4-2 formation. Don't wanna change too much
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Post by TwisT Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:07 pm

But 4-4-2 rarely works against teams playing 451 or 433. If you have to go 442 then play with a second striker rather that two out and outs. Surely the first priority should be a compact midfield and defence so you don't conceed easily?

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:40 pm

TwisT wrote:But 4-4-2 rarely works against teams playing 451 or 433. If you have to go 442 then play with a second striker rather that two out and outs. Surely the first priority should be a compact midfield and defence so you don't conceed easily?

Our main formation will be 4-4-2. Not saying we won't be able to change and adapt, hence why we bought in Benayoun. Gives us options.

We can't just go against the philoshopy that got Reading to the top league. Just like Swansea and Norwich last year, you are better to stick to what you know best
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Post by FIFA Diva Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:39 am

You both have a point, I think we need a team where we can switch styles and tactics and I we've got that.

Pennant, Bently or Phillips we could go for anyone of them I'd probably go with Pennant.

Strikers I don't know about Bellamy if he was to leave Liverpool I think he would go to Cardiff, Rhodes is outstanding at the lower level but don't know if he could cut it at the top I'd like us to go with a proven prem striker.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:43 am

I see Fraizer Campbell as a good shout from TwisT. I like him a lot, can score us 10 goals a season, alongside Pogrebynak.

I am happy to sign Campbell if everyone else is??

(Also if we sign Campbell we would have to release two players to get down too 25 man squad, so can you also suggest two guys we can release)
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Post by sodhat Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:29 am

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:31 am

That is brilliant work Sodhat clap

That will be of great use. We need to do justifications of our signings as well I reckon. But that can be done on Monday and Tuesday
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Post by FIFA Diva Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:39 am

Nice Sodhat OK

Guys the PM I sent you the other day that link have a look at that. I got a reply
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Post by Bull Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:42 am

we could release Cummings?

oh and great work Sodhat

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Post by TwisT Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:21 pm

VivaPaulScholes wrote:Nice Sodhat OK

Guys the PM I sent you the other day that link have a look at that. I got a reply

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:27 pm

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Post by TwisT Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:03 pm

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:10 pm

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Post by Bull Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:13 pm

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Post by TwisT Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:34 pm

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:43 pm

Well we don't want too much upheaval TwisT. And on the wing we have Matty Phillips and Jimmy Kebe who are two very good wingers.

CB I like to idea of Bocanegra from Rangers for free. Think he is a good player. And Ryan Taylor LB could be a good signing. Offers set pieces as well. CM wise I think McCulloch on a free you can't go wrong.

So I would take McCulloch, Bocanegra and Taylor. But that would take us up to a squad size of 30 I believe. So we would have to release five players.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:56 pm

Right I have updated the OP with the signing of Fraizer Campbell for £3.8M (Don't want £3.72M because I hate having the stupid .02M)

We are know at 27 players in the squad. 3 GK's, 9 defenders, 10 Midfielders and 5 strikers
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Post by TwisT Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:28 pm

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:48 pm

Right I have taken the decision to sign McCulloch and Bocanegra (on free transfers) from the Newco Rangers. And Ryan Taylor for £4.8M. This will get our squad up to 30 players.

And I have chosen 5 players we can release:
Ian Harte - Not needed have two better LB's in Shorey and Taylor.
Shaun Cummings - Not needed - Have better defenders
Jay Tabb - Not needed - Not gonna see any first XI footie, didnt in the Championship.
Mikele Leigertwood - Not needed - Feel we have 4 better CM's
Garath McCleary - Not needed - Feel Benayoun can cover the wingers, so he is a bit surplus to requirements.

Now are we all happy with that???? I need answers ASAP, because I want to use tomorrow getting together our presentation for Tuesday, and for finalising any other little things
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:51 pm

Actually we don't have to release those players. They just wouldn't be included in our final 25 man squad?
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Post by TwisT Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:53 pm

I agree with the above. And we have some money in the kitty as well. I think we could get rid of a striker as well.

After all this.....how much cash do we have?

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:54 pm

£2.38M if we release none of those players.

And I would like to have 5 strikers in our squad, if we are playing two up top
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Post by TwisT Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:54 pm

Olly wrote:Actually we don't have to release those players. They just wouldn't be included in our final 25 man squad?

Well releasing them would give us cash (transfer and less wages). What's the point of keeping them, for the reasons you have stated above? Less wages, which gives us more money (for wages) for those coming in.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:56 pm

Ok TwisT can I leave you with the task of finding release prices for the 5 men I stated above.

It is there TM value take away 20%. For example if cummings was worth £1m his release price would be 800K
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Post by Bull Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:57 pm

Cummings has no value.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:58 pm

If they have no value we release them for nothing then
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Post by TwisT Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:09 pm

Cummings does have value on TM Headscratch Sell fees listed below:

Ian Harte - Sell fee would be £180k
Shaun Cummings - Sell fee would be £520k
Jay Tabb - Sell fee would be £700k
Garath McCleary- Sell fee would be £700k

So that totals to £2.1m

Mikele Leigertwood might actually be a good one to keep as he is CDM/CB back up. However his sell fee would be £880k

If we sold him as well, that would be £2.98m in total OK

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:02 pm

Cheers TwisT. I agree on Leigertwood, however I feel the CM's and CB's we have are better than him, and we need to squad space. I will release them and get our final 25 man squad together.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:06 pm

Decided to keep Leigertwood and release Pierce Sweeney who doesnt have a price
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:09 pm

Goalkeepers (3):
Adam Federici
Alex McCarthy
Marcus Hahnemann

Defenders (8):
Nicky Shorey
Alex Pearce
Joesph Mills
Kaspars Gorkss
Kyle Naughton
Adrian Mariappa
Carlos Bocenagra
Ryan Taylor

Midfielders (9):
Jem Karacan
Mikele Leigertwood
Jobi McAnuff (captain)
Jimmy Kebe
Danny Guthrie
Nigel Reo Coker
Matt Phillips
Yossi Benayoun
Lee McCulloch

Forwards (5):
Adam Le Fondre
Noel Hunt
Jason Roberts
Pavel Pogrebnyak
Fraizer Campbell

That is our final 25 man squad. Are we all ok with that?? I think we have assembled a good bunch of players there.

We have 4.48M left for January Transfers etc.

Now we need to focus on getting a presentation together for Tuesday. I will need someone (maybe two people) to justify our signings. Just needs to be a sentence or two. I will focus on getting the main bits done, and put all of it together
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Post by TwisT Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:17 pm

I think that squad has a nice mix to it in youth and experience. OK

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Post by sodhat Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:31 am

Glad Leigertwood was kept - I rate him and think he has a place in our squad.

I can help out with words here and there for players if you need

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Post by FIFA Diva Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:46 am

Morning

Bad news, I've got work experience kid with me for this week and I won't be able to get on during much during work hours. I'll try in the evening.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:20 am

That is fine Viva. I am off for this morning, but should be here most of the afternoon.

Soddy and TwisT I will set you the task of writing justifications for players. Like I said earlier, just have to be a sentence or two.

GK - Marcus Hahnemann - Free transfer
RB - Kyle Naughton - £4.2M - (TM Value of £3.5M)
CB - Adrian Mariappa - £2.2M - (TM Value of £1.8M)
RM - Matt Phillips - £2.7M - (TM Value of £2.2M)
CM - Nigel Reo Coker - Free transfer
CAM - Yossi Benayoun - Loan for 800K
ST - Fraizer Campbell - £3.8M (TM Value of £3.1M)
CB - Carlos Bocenagra - Free transfer
CM - Lee McCulloch - Free transfer
LB - Ryan Taylor - £4.8M (TM Value of £4M)

Sodhat if you take the first 5, and TwisT you take the second 5?
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:00 pm

Also can I get an opinion on what your final starting XI would be in the 4-4-2 formation?
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Post by sodhat Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:02 pm

Will do the first 5 as requested, sir. But a bit later, I've already done a WWA show this morning!

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