Does anyone have a definitive list of HEC 2013 qualifiers?

Sorted by seeding tiers would be better.

https://www.606v2.com/t29457-erc-seedings-2012-13 ?

Thanks LT - but I'd like to find an official one.
Listening to Chinese whispers might result in wrong messages being received.

Portnoy wrote:Thanks LT - but I'd like to find an official one.
Listening to Chinese whispers might result in wrong messages being received.

There's nothing on the ERC website - http://www.ercrugby.com/eng/qualification/ still has 2011 results for 2012.
Rankings are not yet updated either http://www.ercrugby.com/eng/ranking.php

So the choices are either (a) Chinese whispers or (b) patience


However, with
Leinster and Biaritz qualifying via HEC/Amlin wins, the other teams are:

Eng
Quins
Tiggers
Sarries
Saints
Chiefs
Sharks

Fra
Toulouse
Clermont
Toulon
Castres
Montpelier
Racing
Biarritz

Ire
Leinster
Munster
Ulster
Connacht

Wal
Ospreys
Scarlets
Blues

Sco
Glasgow
Edinburgh

Italy
Treviso
??

Portnoy: Its straightforward enough with 1 exception that is undecided:

Ireland are entitled to 3 places. Munster, Leinster, Ulster. Connacht are joining them as a 4th as Leinster won the Cup.

France are entitled to 6 places. Clermont, Toulouse, Racing, Montpellier, Toulon and Castres. Biarritz join them as a 7th as they won the Amlin.

Scottish are entitled to 2 places. Glasgow and Edinburgh.

England are entitled to 6 places. Quins, Saints, Tigers, Sarries, Chiefs, Sharks

Wales are entitled to 3 places: Ospreys, Blues, Scarlets

Italy are entiteld to 2 places: Treviso and AN OTHER (Aironi have folded)

Of course Italy?? could be the entire ABs squad.

Did you not hear that Chelsea and Man City didn't have a rogue random bet on putting Man U in the shade?

Portnoy wrote:Of course Italy?? could be the entire ABs squad.

Did you not hear that Chelsea and Man City didn't have a rogue random bet on putting Man U in the shade?

I dont understand

red_stag wrote:

Portnoy wrote:Of course Italy?? could be the entire ABs squad.

Did you not hear that Chelsea and Man City didn't have a rogue random bet on putting Man U in the shade?

I dont understand

您将需要在中国耳语的程度，以了解老波特诺伊

BoyneRFC wrote:

red_stag wrote:

Portnoy wrote:Of course Italy?? could be the entire ABs squad.

Did you not hear that Chelsea and Man City didn't have a rogue random bet on putting Man U in the shade?

I dont understand

您将需要在中国耳语的程度，以了解老波特诺伊

You will need to the extent of the Chinese whisper, to understand the old Portnoy

(thanks google translate)

Is this a five-minute argument or the full half hour?

... I'd love to commit, but I have to work as well....