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Post by Pound-for-Pound Fri 13 Jan 2012, 1:02 pm

Gavin is set to fight in an eight rounder on the Cleverly - Karpency fight undercard. I don't expect a big name but it will be good to see him back in the ring. Anyone know if his personal problems have been sorted?

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Fri 13 Jan 2012, 1:22 pm

Just another Warren fighter going to waste (ala Kell Brook) having to sit on the backburner while Cleverly and DeGale get all the special treatment.

He should go to the Hearns' . He isn't gonna get much of a profile doing silly 8 rounders on the abyss aka Boxnation.
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Post by Pound-for-Pound Fri 13 Jan 2012, 1:24 pm

I think he probably needs an eight rounder. He's been out a while and with recent issues it's a good way to gauge where he is mentally.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Fri 13 Jan 2012, 1:26 pm

Thing is it's been down to Gavin not Warren - he's the one who keeps pulling out of fights at the last minute, apparently suffering with depression. I agree BoxNation isn't good for a young fighters exposure but his career stalling has been down to him, not Warren.

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Post by Valero's Conscience Fri 13 Jan 2012, 2:02 pm

Agree with Alex, for all Warren's faults i think Gavin is the only one to blame for his stalling career.

Most people have issues in their personal lives which affect their work, whether it be a sports job or an office job and Gavin's lack of dedication is his own problem to sort and not Warren's.

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Fri 13 Jan 2012, 2:23 pm

Yes, although he wasn't really given the exposure at the beginning. It was all about DeGale.

I like Frankie but to be honest, I can only see him becoming a Paul Smith type fighter. There isn't any real interest in him.
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Post by Steffan Fri 13 Jan 2012, 2:26 pm

I dont rate the guy

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Post by Valero's Conscience Fri 13 Jan 2012, 2:40 pm

Gavin was meant to be the pick of the bunch i.e. first Brit to win an amateur boxing gold etc but since that day his career has gone nothing but downhill.

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Post by The Sweet Science UK Fri 13 Jan 2012, 3:14 pm

Valero's Conscience wrote:Gavin was meant to be the pick of the bunch i.e. first Brit to win an amateur boxing gold etc but since that day his career has gone nothing but downhill.

I thought that Billy Joe Saunders was meant to be the pick of the punch? Or have I got that wrong? Headscratch
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Post by TopHat24/7 Fri 13 Jan 2012, 3:20 pm

Whilst I agree Frankie's current problems are largely of his own making, I still agree with Reeborn that he should dump Warren and go over to Matchroom. Would rather see him on Kell Brook undercards fighting over in the States than 8 rounders on Boxnation. Staying with Warren will just keep him out of the limelight and brushed aside at the expense of Clev and DeGale.

It's for the same reason I think Groves made a big mistake going to Ol' Fish-Eyes not Hearn. Since he moved, having beaten De Gale, he's fought a guy De Gale already beat and now a fighter he's already beaten. De Gale on the other hand has, in one ropey performance, become Euro champ.

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Post by The Sweet Science UK Fri 13 Jan 2012, 3:32 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:Whilst I agree Frankie's current problems are largely of his own making, I still agree with Reeborn that he should dump Warren and go over to Matchroom. Would rather see him on Kell Brook undercards fighting over in the States than 8 rounders on Boxnation. Staying with Warren will just keep him out of the limelight and brushed aside at the expense of Clev and DeGale.

It's for the same reason I think Groves made a big mistake going to Ol' Fish-Eyes not Hearn. Since he moved, having beaten De Gale, he's fought a guy De Gale already beat and now a fighter he's already beaten. De Gale on the other hand has, in one ropey performance, become Euro champ.

To be fair Groves can't do much about this rematch as the BBBoC has ordered it.
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Post by TopHat24/7 Fri 13 Jan 2012, 3:48 pm

Sorry, didn't realise. Has there not been too much water under the bridge for a rematch?

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Post by KingMonkey Fri 13 Jan 2012, 3:51 pm

Gavin 'appparently suffering depression'? Very, very tricky subject that one. If true theen he needs specialist help and it's not 'his fault'.

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Post by Valero's Conscience Fri 13 Jan 2012, 3:51 pm

The Sweet Science UK wrote:
Valero's Conscience wrote:Gavin was meant to be the pick of the bunch i.e. first Brit to win an amateur boxing gold etc but since that day his career has gone nothing but downhill.

I thought that Billy Joe Saunders was meant to be the pick of the punch? Or have I got that wrong? Headscratch

Saunders may have been the pick i could be wrong but considering Gavin's amateur pedigree, I thought he was the one people were most anticipating.

He's been another disappointment, considering it's 3.5 years since he went pro!

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Post by The Sweet Science UK Fri 13 Jan 2012, 3:52 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:Sorry, didn't realise. Has there not been too much water under the bridge for a rematch?

That's what I thought but in the BBBoC's infinite wisdom they've made Anderson a mandatory. This rematch should have happened somewhere between after their first fight and before the DeGale fight for me.
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Post by Fists of Fury Fri 13 Jan 2012, 3:54 pm

KingMonkey wrote:Gavin 'appparently suffering depression'? Very, very tricky subject that one. If true theen he needs specialist help and it's not 'his fault'.

Gavin discovered that a child he had fathered for a couple of years wasn't his. Must have been a big shock and from that view I can understand his depression.

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Post by Steffan Fri 13 Jan 2012, 3:57 pm

Fists of Fury wrote:
KingMonkey wrote:Gavin 'appparently suffering depression'? Very, very tricky subject that one. If true theen he needs specialist help and it's not 'his fault'.

Gavin discovered that a child he had fathered for a couple of years wasn't his. Must have been a big shock and from that view I can understand his depression.

I can imagine. She sounds like a nice girl. He should come back and not give her the satisfaction. Easier said that done I guess though

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Post by johnson2 Fri 13 Jan 2012, 4:28 pm

Fists of Fury wrote:
KingMonkey wrote:Gavin 'appparently suffering depression'? Very, very tricky subject that one. If true theen he needs specialist help and it's not 'his fault'.

Gavin discovered that a child he had fathered for a couple of years wasn't his. Must have been a big shock and from that view I can understand his depression.

Doesnt explain why he was a fat lazy slob before he found out his gf was a skank.

Lazy people will always find an excuse to be lazy. Needs to get over himself.

And all this depression stuff.... do me a favour.

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Post by The Galveston Giant Fri 13 Jan 2012, 5:42 pm

What an absolute slag, i'm noy sure when he found out or maybe first suspected but he's been struggling for a while now, i wish him well and hope he can get back on track.
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Post by The Galveston Giant Fri 13 Jan 2012, 5:43 pm

Can i say slag?
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Post by Steffan Fri 13 Jan 2012, 7:08 pm

The Galveston Giant wrote:Can i say slag?

Best way to describe the slag so yes OK

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