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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Tue 20 Dec 2011, 10:34 pm

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Coaching Staff:

Team Manager: Sir Johnny English

Assistant: Jim Mallinder

Forwards Coach: Gert Smal
Scrum Coach: Greg Rowntree
Lineout Coach: Victor Matfield

Backs Coach: Joe Schmidt
Kicking Coach: Neil Jenkins
Defence Coach: Dave Ellis

Academy Manager: Dave Rennie
Chief Scout: Dusty Hare




Senior Squad :

Forwards:

Soane Tonga'uiha (LH) Tonga
Alex Waller (LH) England
Steven Kitshoff (LH) South Africa

Dylan Hartley (HK) England
Richardt Strauss (HK) Ireland
Mike Haywood (HK) England

Brian Mujati (TH) South Africa
Paul Doran-Jones (LH/TH) England

James Craig (LK/BS) England
Christian Day (LK) England
Courtney Lawes (LK/BS) England
Andries Bekker (LK) South Africa
Brodie Retalick (LK) New Zealand
Samu Manoa (LK/BS) USA
Mark Sorenson (LK) New Zealand

Stephen Ferris (BS/N8) Ireland
Stephen Luatua (LK/BS) New Zealand 
Tom Wood (BS/OS) England
Phil Dowson (BS/N8) England
Calum Clark (LK/BS/OS) England

Kieran Read (BS/N8) New Zealand
Roger Wilson (N8) Ireland

Backs:

Aaron Smith (SH) New Zealand
Lee Dickson (SH) England
Martin Roberts (SH) Wales
Ryan Glynn (SH) England 27/9/91

Johnny Sexton (FH) Ireland
Ryan Lamb (SH/FH) England
Stephen Myler (FH) England

Jan Serfontein (IC/OC) South Africa
Sonny Bill Williams (IC/OC) New Zealand
James Downey (IC) Ireland

George Pisi (IC/OC/FB) Samoa
Gael Fickou (IC/OC) France

Scott Armstrong (WG) England
JP Pieterson (WG) South Africa
Vasily Artemiev (WG) Russia
Chris Ashton (WG) England
Jamie Elliot (OC/WG) England 31/8/92

Ben Foden (FB) England
Greig Tonks (FH/FB) England




Academy Squad :

Tom Stephenson (IC/OC/WG) England 5/5/94
Teimana Harrison (BS/OS/N8) England
James Palmer (LH/TH) England 20/8/93
Ethan Waller (LH) England 13/9/92
Anders Mogensen (WG) England 4/1/91
Danny Herriot (TH) England 23/2/93
Tom Hicks (LK) England 25/10/91
Alex Woolford (LK) England 8/12/92
Alex Day (SH) England 11/4/93
Charlie Sadler (FB) England 6/9/91
Glynn Hughes (FH/FB) England 17/11/91
Tom Collins (OC/FB) England 3/7/94


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Post by Driver Fri 10 Feb 2012, 5:30 pm

Lets thrash us a deal out for Ashton , I'm willing to lose out to get him
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Post by sexton_style Fri 10 Feb 2012, 10:41 pm

Anything doing for Armitage, Slade, Spruling, or Naqa?

Maybe if you can do anything for the following?

Hartley, Tonga'uhia, Mujati, Day, Wood, Dowson, Dickson, SEXTON, Downey, Cato and Foden(Probably wouldn't sell)

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Post by sexton_style Fri 10 Feb 2012, 11:14 pm

Dowson + Dickson + Armstrong + Myler
for
Armitage + Thomas + Sackey + Steenson

Enquiry Only

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Post by sexton_style Sun 12 Feb 2012, 3:49 pm

Nah not gaining on the wing there.

Dowson + Lamb + Dickson + Day/D-Jones
for
Treviranus + Cruden + Thomas + Hanks/Mitchell

?

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Post by sexton_style Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:03 pm

Dowson + Lamb + Day
=
Armitage + Cruden + Hanks + Slade?

Nope.

Something out of the water.

Hartley + Foden + Lamb + Dowson
for
BDP + Nacewa + Cruden + Armitage

?

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Post by sexton_style Sun 12 Feb 2012, 4:21 pm

Keep forgetting that rule Doh

I would lose out too much then.

As you have a class 10 already.

Drop Lamb for Cruden and add Mujati for Mitchell and I will chuck Slade in aswell?

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Post by sexton_style Sun 12 Feb 2012, 5:07 pm

Start again keep messing about but it's so hard.

Dowson + Lamb + Hartley + Dickson
for
Armitage + Cruden + BDP + Thomas

?

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Post by sexton_style Sun 12 Feb 2012, 5:17 pm

I still feel I lose out too much, especially on BDP as he is the only World Class player included in the deal, and despite Lamb being English, Cruden is better.

I would need Dickson or Foden in the deal somewhere.

Dowson + Hartley + Foden + Lamb/Myler
for
Armitage + BDP + Nacewa + Steenson

Dowson > Armitage
BDP > Hartley
Foden > Nacewa

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Post by sexton_style Sun 12 Feb 2012, 10:55 pm

Just stick it down to two players.

Foden + Hartley
for
Nacewa + BDP

Dickson + Hartley
for
Thomas + BDP

Dowson + Lamb
for
Armitage + Cruden

Any of them?

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Post by sexton_style Sun 12 Feb 2012, 11:16 pm

Im not losing players.

You have three deals there, a gain each.

You have enough EPS cover, you will only lose one EPS if you decide out of the bottom 2 deals.

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Post by Driver Sun 12 Feb 2012, 11:19 pm

Hi mate

Any chance of a deal for Clark?
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Post by sexton_style Sun 12 Feb 2012, 11:25 pm

Clark + Dowson + Foden + Dickson
for
Armitage + Johnson + Nacewa + Thomas + Slade + 3m

Enquiry Only.

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Post by sexton_style Sun 12 Feb 2012, 11:38 pm

Im sorry. You keep wanting that little bit extra though which I can't afford to lose.

Dowson/Lamb + Dickson/Foden
for
Johnson/Cruden + Thomas/Nacewa

That's all I can see, two gains each there if you decide on any.

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Post by sexton_style Sun 12 Feb 2012, 11:53 pm

Very good point, but do I really want to lose the quality BDP and Cruden give me even though more EQ players would help.

My answer to that is not really, definitely not in the same deal.

BDP + Thomas
for
Hartley + Dickson

You get a quality Hooker, while I get the good scrum half I need. I am willing to lose BDP, just a question would you lose Dickson.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 13 Feb 2012, 10:34 am

What for Callum Clark Johnny?

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Post by sexton_style Mon 13 Feb 2012, 1:04 pm

Horwill + Armitage
=
Day + Dowson?

I lose out on Horwill dramatically, and now sold Armitage.

I would do.

Dowson/Wood/Mujati + Lamb
for
Trev/Johnson/Freshwater + Cruden

Take your pick, one gain each there, but definitely not losing Horwill for Day lose out too much mate.

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Post by sexton_style Mon 13 Feb 2012, 1:55 pm

How about Horwill and Cruden for Dowson, Lamb and Sorenson?

Im losing out dramatically, I am not selling Horwill.

I would do Cruden 4 Lamb which is fair.

Just pick from Dowson 4 Trev or Wood 4 Johnson.

Johnson gives you a good choice and so does Cruden if Sexton get's injured.

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Post by sexton_style Mon 13 Feb 2012, 2:20 pm

Not selling Horwill, it takes a big chunk out of my second row.

Cruden + Johnson
for
Lamb + Wood

Johnson is a good player and in England Saxon, plus you have players who can manoevre in different positions. Johnson, Dowson, Clark and Read is still strong.

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Post by sexton_style Mon 13 Feb 2012, 2:32 pm

Cruden + Naqelevuki
=
Lamb + Downey

Your gaining twice again.

Cruden + Johnson
for
Lamb + Wood

Or

Foden for Short
Clark for Scaysbrook

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Post by sexton_style Mon 13 Feb 2012, 2:45 pm

You keep missing the point.

Im not selling Horwill for Day or Sorensen that is poor.

Downey + Wood + Dickson
for
Naqelevuki + TJ + Wigglesworth

Naqelevuki > Downey
Wood > TJ
Dickson = Wigglesworth

You improve at centre, I improve at back row and we swap England scrum halfs?

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Post by sexton_style Mon 13 Feb 2012, 2:59 pm

Horwill will have to take Lawes, Horwill is better and the captain of the current Super 15 champions. Lawes good player, England international but lacks quality in some areas of his game.

Lawes + Lamb + Wood + Dowson
for
Horwill + Cruden + TJ + Scaysbrook/Trev

Horwill > Lawes
Cruden > Lamb
Wood > TJ
Dowson > Scaysbrook/Trev

?

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Post by sexton_style Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:17 pm

I know im being stubborn, but can't afford to lose Horwill, EQ player or no EQ can't lose Horwill yet, unless Lawes is involved.

Horwill + Johnson + 5m
for
Lawes + Wood

Best im going to do mate.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:26 pm

Clark?

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Post by sexton_style Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:32 pm

So you want Horwill to partner Lawes.

To leave me with Hanks, Hayes and Day.

My friend that is an absolute joke.

Horwill + Saull
for
Lawes + Wood

Is perfect, Saull better than Johnson and can replace Wood in the openside position.

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Post by sexton_style Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:46 pm

Lamb + Dowson
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Cruden + Trev

You mentioned Dowson first off anyway, you don't want to lose Wood so...

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:51 pm

Shame, keen on him to play 6. See nothing??

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Post by sexton_style Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:59 pm

You are not getting Horwill unless Lawes comes my way, how many more times do I have to say that?

You mentioned Dowson and seemed fine with Lamb for Cruden.

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Post by sexton_style Mon 13 Feb 2012, 4:09 pm

Lamb + Dowson
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Cruden + TJ

That's what you had originially, im not selling Horwill so stop trying.

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Post by sexton_style Mon 13 Feb 2012, 4:20 pm

had Lamb + Dowson
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Cruden + Armitage + cash originally.

And I said Horwill won't come your way unless Lawes is involved.

It also means im losing a starter in Horwill, I don't want Day for him because it takes a big chunk out of my second row EQ or not EQ. Cato won't start either.

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Post by sexton_style Mon 13 Feb 2012, 4:23 pm

Dowson + Lamb
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Gibson + Cruden

Yes there is, Pooly and others are in the reckoning with much better options. Oh yh and Cruden has gone.

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Post by sexton_style Mon 13 Feb 2012, 4:53 pm

Im not losing out Johnny.

Gibson looks an incredible prospect a bit like Ben Morgan, in the way of carrying and build. I really like Tom Homer, he has nerves of steel, a great kicker of the ball and decent in the field.

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Post by sexton_style Mon 13 Feb 2012, 5:13 pm

Dowson + Strauss
for
Gibson + Homer

Then I will lose my full back again.

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Post by sexton_style Mon 13 Feb 2012, 5:25 pm

But I prefer my players though aswell. Im big fans of both players, especially Homer he has been one of my fave players this season.

I wouldn't mind Dowson and I wouldn't mind Strauss, but I wouldn't want to lose both Gibson and Homer for them.

I need a fly-half and a hooker, where is Strauss on your team page anyway?

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Post by sexton_style Mon 13 Feb 2012, 5:49 pm

Said I don't want Cato have no interest.

Would like some better props and Dowson and a fly-half.

Tonga, Mujati, D-Jones, Dowson, Lamb.

Just try something because im going offline soon.

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Post by sexton_style Mon 13 Feb 2012, 9:18 pm

I would need Dowson, Wood or Clark somewhere. Also interested in Doran-Jones need to add international quality to the front three.

Homer won't go, great talent.

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Post by sexton_style Mon 13 Feb 2012, 9:27 pm

Like I said no interest in losing Homer, been one of my favourite players this season, great kicking option and I need him to start at full-back. Yes you will be helping my out with a hooker, but it leaves me without a good full-back.

Give me a list of players your interested in, players who will make your line up and bench stronger.

Im interested in Doran-Jones, Dowson, Wood, Clark.


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Post by sexton_style Mon 13 Feb 2012, 9:35 pm

Homer not for sale, you don't have the players in that position for tempt me, you wouldn't sell Foden so that is out of the question.

Dowson
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Scaysbrook + Treviranus

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Post by sexton_style Mon 13 Feb 2012, 9:39 pm

Dowson
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Scaysbrook + Baxter/Phillips

Im giving you a good deal there, 2 for 1 in your favour, Phillips quality part of Exeter team this season and Baxter aswell.

Take it or leave it please.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 14 Feb 2012, 4:23 pm

Cash + Player for Clark?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 14 Feb 2012, 4:37 pm

Worth a go.

I rate him highly but prob not too known on here, I couldn't remember many other on the list tbh lol

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Post by pullthestrings Tue 14 Feb 2012, 10:20 pm

Dowson + Strauss for Gibson + Homer?

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Decent offer mate, but gonna have to say no. Dowson is what he is, but has shown he isn't international standard in the past couple of weeks. Gibson could be.

In addition, I can't give up Homer's boot, it's key to my side.

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Post by pullthestrings Wed 15 Feb 2012, 9:25 am

Interesting mate, can we do:

Strauss + FB/WG
=
Delon + Paice?

enq.

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Post by pullthestrings Wed 15 Feb 2012, 9:26 am

Also, anything for PDJ/Wood?

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Post by Fluxy Wed 15 Feb 2012, 9:47 am

I'll take him. How many injuries would you be looking at to take him back then?

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Post by pullthestrings Wed 15 Feb 2012, 9:47 am

Cato + Strauss = Delon + Paice?

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In fact mate, I think I'll leave it. Sorry, but Delon is still quality just in bad form. Hoping he'll come good.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 15 Feb 2012, 10:04 am

Anything for Pisi mate?
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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 15 Feb 2012, 10:25 am

Thanks for the offer mate, but Cato is no better than the wingers that I have and going on what i have seen from him the past couple of years he looks unlikely to kick on and get much better.

I had him on the other game for ages I thought he might burst through, but just doesn't seem like it's going to happen for him.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 15 Feb 2012, 11:04 am

I have decent enough back row cover fo rht erest of this season so not really looking for loan deals there mate, only looking for strengthening for next season.
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Post by Bathite Wed 15 Feb 2012, 4:02 pm

What for PDJ?

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Post by Bathite Wed 15 Feb 2012, 4:31 pm

PDJ + Strauss = Wilson + Steyn?

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Interesting response, I could afford to let Wilson go, with Franks there and he covers both sides, Strauss also interests me big time. I see Wilson equal to PDJ, but need a LH. However, Steyn is an absolute no go mate.

PDJ + Strauss = Wilson + Williams/Barkley/Hipkiss?

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