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Post by asoreleftshoulder Tue 14 Jun 2011, 1:27 pm


Waratahs and Wallaby inside centre cum fly-half Berrick Barnes will take an extended break from playing rugby commencing immediately.

Barnes has been suffering from footballers' migraines in recent weeks and has spent a number of weeks on the sideline this season recovering from head injuries.

After coming from the field inside the first half of Saturday's 33-7 victory over the Highlanders at the Sydney Football Stadium, Barnes consulted with team doctor Sharron Flahive and his neurologist Professor John Watson to ascertain his immediate playing future.

He has since decided to take an immediate break from rugby, but refused to indicate the length of his stay on the sidelines.

"The medical staff has been fantastic here and we've been working on this for a long time," said Barnes.

"In the end it's come down to my decision really I think it's probably beneficial both for myself and the team that I take some time away from the game.

"The positive thing about this footballers' migraine is that there shouldn't be any long term effects, so as long as the diagnosis is 100 per cent correct, and I'm sure it is, then I'll be sweet.

"I haven't put a time limit on it; it's weeks at the moment and just how many weeks that ends up being, we'll just have to wait and see.

"I'll still be doing some form of training and gradually building that back up as time goes on, because I need to know whether I can perform that physical exertion and cop the hits, and training will form a part of that."

Barnes said he has no doubts that his team-mates can get the job done against the Brumbies on Saturday and is urging Waratahs supporters to come out in numbers to get behind the team.

"It's not the first time I've been out this year and we've had to adapt to losing players at different stages throughout the competition so there's a confidence in the squad that whoever is asked to pull on the jersey will rip in and we can still get the result," said Barnes.

"This is basically the first week of the finals for us - it's sudden death from here on in - so it'd be great to get 30,000 out at Homebush this Saturday.

"These are the matches that professional footy players love playing in. There's everything to play for with the semis on the line and we have guys like Al Baxter, Kurtley Beale and Luke Burgess playing their last games at home.

"The Brumbies are also going to be coming with their A-game; they've got a bit of momentum now and with Matt Giteau and Adam Ashley-Cooper moving on they'll want to finish the season on a high.

"It's these type of matches that you want to be a part of so it'll be hard being on the sidelines but I'm sure there'll be a great atmosphere and I'm really looking forward to it."

Head coach Chris Hickey said that the welfare of Barnes has always been the primary concern.

"In professional football there are always guys out there playing with injury, playing through pain and stepping up for their teammates, but when it comes to head injuries you need to take every precaution you can," said Hickey.

"When Berrick took a couple of head knocks against the Crusaders and Brumbies we ensured he took time off on both occasions and we've continued to proceed with caution as the season has unfolded

"The footballers' migraines he's getting are an obvious concern and his overall wellbeing needs to come first. We've always taken on the best medical advice and how he feels within himself has to be the prevailing factor."


http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_6988796,00.html

Australia and Waratahs back Berrick Barnes is taking a break from rugby due to footballers migraine,it seems like more and more players are suffering head injuries and it's good to see he's being sensible about it but it's a worrying development.

How big a blow will this be to Australia if he doesn't make it back for the World Cup and is there anything that can be done to reduce the chance of head injuries in rugby.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Tue 14 Jun 2011, 2:14 pm

Greyghost goes off to sulk realising that this isnt Wayne

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Post by red_stag Tue 14 Jun 2011, 3:02 pm

I think that dealing with the injuries that occur is the big issue. There is no way to stop head injuries happening. But players are rushing back into contact situations too soon after having concussion and head damage.

Bernard Jackman and John Fogarty brought attention to this in Ireland.
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Post by TheGreyGhost Tue 14 Jun 2011, 3:06 pm

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:Greyghost goes off to sulk realising that this isnt Wayne

Yep. If only there were more concussion injuries affecting bad referees. Crying or Very sad

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Post by mckay1402 Tue 14 Jun 2011, 3:21 pm

O i was hoping this would be either wayne barnes taking a break from refereeing or stuart barnes taking a break from talking
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Post by red_stag Tue 14 Jun 2011, 3:25 pm

Grey - maybe there was concussion affecting him in that game in 2007. Its the only explanation wouldn't you say.
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Post by damngoodOvalball Tue 14 Jun 2011, 3:33 pm

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:Greyghost goes off to sulk realising that this isnt Wayne

I was momentarilly gutted that it was Wayne Barnes taking a break. Imagine an RWC with NZ under huge home pressure and no Wayne Barnes. It would be akin to Susie losing her waitresses union membership....

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Post by asoreleftshoulder Tue 14 Jun 2011, 3:36 pm

Lol,poor Wayne Barnes he'll always be remembered for that game no matter what else he goes on to do.

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Post by TheGreyGhost Tue 14 Jun 2011, 3:59 pm

I couldn't possibly comment. Apparently. Lest I risk a life ban from 606v2 for having an opinion of my own.

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Post by damngoodOvalball Tue 14 Jun 2011, 4:03 pm

TheGreyGhost wrote:I couldn't possibly comment. Apparently. Lest I risk a life ban from 606v2 for having an opinion of my own.

My (own) opinion is that one of the All black players or someone in the management should have realised that a drop goal might have won it for them, instead of running panic stricken from side to side for a while before throwing the ball forward

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Post by red_stag Tue 14 Jun 2011, 4:12 pm

damngoodOvalball wrote: before throwing the ball forward

Unlike the French Whistle
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Post by damngoodOvalball Tue 14 Jun 2011, 4:14 pm

red_stag wrote:
damngoodOvalball wrote: before throwing the ball forward

Unlike the French Whistle

Once a ref always a ref, eh redstag?

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Post by nottins Tue 14 Jun 2011, 4:14 pm

asoreleftshoulder wrote:Lol,poor Wayne Barnes he'll always be remembered for that game no matter what else he goes on to do.

Which game is that ? Or did you mean only NZers will remember it ? My memory of that game is that the whole NZ "team" couldn't manage to attempt a drop goal. Clive Woodward got his players to TCUP (Thinking Clearly Under Pressure), you would have thought that even Graham Henry could have managed to read his book Winning! and adopt a similiar mindset for his players. All that was missing at the end of the match was George Gregan saying, "Four more years boys, four more years"

TGG, everyone is allowed an opinion, but if it is potentially libellous then the site admin can will remove it as I'm sure they don't want to end up in court defending a libel action.

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Post by Looseheaded Tue 14 Jun 2011, 4:22 pm

Hopefully htis time off doesn't send him the same way as Henson, and that he gets back into it sharpish.

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Post by TheGreyGhost Tue 14 Jun 2011, 4:30 pm

damngoodOvalball wrote:
TheGreyGhost wrote:I couldn't possibly comment. Apparently. Lest I risk a life ban from 606v2 for having an opinion of my own.

My (own) opinion is that one of the All black players or someone in the management should have realised that a drop goal might have won it for them, instead of running panic stricken from side to side for a while before throwing the ball forward

Perhaps with both Carter and Evans off injured and no designated drop goal specialist on the field, the ABs decided that applying suffocating forward pressure was a better way to ensure the victory? Shame Barnes didn't give a penalty for any one of the 18 French infringements, or this would have been a good plan.

Secondly when McAllistair realised that Barnes was finally signalling a penalty advantage for a ruck infringement, he clearly *shouldn't* have a attempted a drop goal of his own, for as soon as it drifted wide, Barnes called "advantage over" (the first and last time this happened in the entire professional era) and let the French clear to touch. Where he proceeded to penalise NZ for a crooked throw in which appeared fairly straight, whilst ignoring the French for jumping through the line and interfering with the All Black jumpers.

Maybe that DG wasn't such a good idea after all.

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Post by Guest Tue 14 Jun 2011, 4:34 pm

TheGG, how can a throw in be fairly straight, surely it's straight or it isn't?


Plus, ignoring my slight double standards here Wink, can we please get this thread back on topic. This is not a thread about Wayne Barnes or a France v NZ rugby match.

I think it's a good thing that Berrick Barnes is taking some time out to fully recover from his head injuries/concussion. This is still very much a murky part to our spot with players often rushing themselves/being rushed back. I think something needs to be done to look at the criteria involved in how soon a player who has suffered a blow to the head is allowed to play rugby again.

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Post by greybeard Tue 14 Jun 2011, 4:35 pm

TheGreyGhost wrote:I couldn't possibly comment. Apparently. Lest I risk a life ban from 606v2 for having an opinion of my own.

Oh get down off the cross, we need the firewood.


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Post by TheGreyGhost Tue 14 Jun 2011, 4:37 pm

rugbydreamer wrote:TheGG, how can a throw in be fairly straight, surely it's straight or it isn't?

Well, less obviously deviant from perfectly perpendicular to touch, than that forward pass which Barnes thought was ok was forward.


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Post by Guest Tue 14 Jun 2011, 4:42 pm

but surely if it was fairly straight, it would also have been fairly not straight?

and TheGG I mean this nicely, let that forward pass go, ref's miss them all the time, tis just the way it goes Hug

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Post by TheGreyGhost Tue 14 Jun 2011, 5:04 pm

The foward pass on it's own wouldn't bother me. It's the collection of apparent incompetence that rankles, along with the persistent defence of his obviously inadequate performance.

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Post by red_stag Tue 14 Jun 2011, 5:09 pm

What inadequate performance Whistle devil
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Post by Notch Tue 14 Jun 2011, 5:17 pm

Wayne Barnes in the last RWC quarter-final? I thought he had a great game sure thumbsup

Anyway, long standing grudges aside, it's good news that he seems to be taking the required precautions now but he surely returned to rugby too soon. We have a collective problem in this sport of dealing with head injuries and it needs to be addressed. It can cause very serious problems down the line.
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Post by damngoodOvalball Tue 14 Jun 2011, 5:20 pm

TheGreyGhost wrote:The foward pass on it's own wouldn't bother me. It's the collection of apparent incompetence that rankles, along with the persistent defence of his obviously inadequate performance.

I'd imagine that the AB players would actually find this level of whingeing, seemingly in their defence, a bit embarassing and pathetic.

GG were you the guy who got the tattoo saying something like 'Adidas All blacks - World Champions 2007' before the 2007 RWC? If so I'd understand why you are still so upset!

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Post by ruggerbyplayer Wed 15 Jun 2011, 4:12 pm

Where would Barnes play anyway? Surely Quade Cooper and Meat Giteau are guaranteed 10 and 12 respectively.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Wed 15 Jun 2011, 4:17 pm

Wasn't Giteau dropped last autumn after some poor performances? I think if Barnes is absent from the WC it's a big blow.

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Post by TheGreyGhost Wed 15 Jun 2011, 4:24 pm

damngoodOvalball wrote:
TheGreyGhost wrote:The foward pass on it's own wouldn't bother me. It's the collection of apparent incompetence that rankles, along with the persistent defence of his obviously inadequate performance.

I'd imagine that the AB players would actually find this level of whingeing, seemingly in their defence, a bit embarassing and pathetic.

GG were you the guy who got the tattoo saying something like 'Adidas All blacks - World Champions 2007' before the 2007 RWC? If so I'd understand why you are still so upset!

Calling a spade a spade is never the wrong thing to do. Pretending like the ABs were just short of a drop goal, or that Barnes had a great game would be missing the point. Doing what you needed to do last time (i.e. overcome a poor refereeing performance) is not the way to go forward. NZ need to accept that the 2007 debacle was beyond their control and keep pushing the boundaries of the natural game that has made them the #1 side in the world consistently. Trying to second guess what some NH ref is going to manage to mess up this time is just a diversion. Do what you do best, to the best of your ability and let the cards fall where they may.

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Post by ruggerbyplayer Wed 15 Jun 2011, 4:26 pm

I think the impact of this is being overstated. Australia are still very strong going into the World Cup.

With Quade Cooper, Matt Giteau, Adam Ashley-Cooper, Kurtley Beale and James O'Connor all able to cover fly-half or inside centre, it's hard to imagine this being 'a big blow' for Australia.

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Post by boomeranga Thu 16 Jun 2011, 4:05 am

I'm glad Berrick has made this decision. He seems to have been on the verge of real trouble for the whole season, so its wise to see rugby for what it is and not risk his future for what in the end is just another season.

If he makes it back, then good, but if he doesnt it will be proof for him that caution was the correct choice.

In RWC terms, it would have been nice to have him as his kind of game would suit the conditions. He can also kick drop goals.

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Post by boomeranga Thu 16 Jun 2011, 12:23 pm

http://www.theroar.com.au/2011/06/15/barnes-hopeful-of-world-cup-berth/

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