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Post by TightHEAD Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:00 pm

As a Bath fan I am used to disappointment since the game turned Pro, i accept that you will lose games and from time to time you will go through a rebuilding phase, suffer injuries and just suffer a loss in form.

As fans we continue to pay our money to be part of the club, to belong to something special, to socialise with our fellow fans and drink cider/beer etc, Good times!

But what happened today is unacceptable, I’m fed up with this culture of showboating from our over paid prima donnas. I say get rid of Farleigh house and move the training ground back to Lambridge and buy them a couple of portacabins fitted with lukewarm showers.

Simply not good enough from a Pro Sports team.
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Post by Pete330v2 Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:04 pm

Does baby want his dum dum?

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Post by TightHEAD Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:07 pm

No, I want my club to show some metal and be professional.
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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:09 pm

By reducing the professional standard facilities?

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Post by TightHEAD Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:17 pm

By creating a better culture, rugby is a hard game and Bath have gone soft due to being pampered at Farleigh.
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Post by Brendan Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:20 pm

I'm not sure if it's the players or managers but Bath don't seem to be near the sum of their parts. If you look at Sarries or Tigers/Wasps of old they knew they were good and would rub it in your face, they always won first. They wouldn't have sent a B team to Sarries, been good with using the squad yes but not rest up. Bath for their resources are doing poorly

I haven't seen the footage but from reports it seems bad. Get down and score and then go do the fancy stuff. The swan dive is rubbish but at least people have to at least try hard to stop you. Once you score do your fancy stuff, kiss whoever but score.

The kick happens but once you cross the try line you better have a good reason to not score.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:24 pm

So mistakes and showboating didn't happen before professionalism? Not sure that's true. Not sure ignoring the advances made under professionalism in advances in sports science etc is the best way forward either.

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Post by TightHEAD Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:55 pm

Don’t see props dropping the ball and showboating before scoring. We are old school, Backs should stick to soccer.
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Post by Artful_Dodger Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:57 pm

TightHEAD wrote:Don’t see props dropping the ball and showboating before scoring. We are old school, Backs should stick to soccer.

New meta detected, Bath should play rugby without backs. They'll be winning Champions Cups in no time without any backs!!

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:02 pm

So it's just backs or one back you want to go back to pre professional training models?

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:16 pm

He's not the first player to drop the ball over the line unnecessarily and won't be the last.

I was surprised that Bath opted to extend Blackadder's contract. Bath seem to be lacking an edge at present and I can't put my finger on quite why that is.

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Post by TightHEAD Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:28 pm

Professionalism!

Nevermind players and coaches get paid win or lose.


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Post by mikey_dragon Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:45 pm

Rubbish and overrated, the same as every year for the last 12 years. Are you even surprised?

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Post by whocares Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:16 pm

I feel bad for Burns. Specially for being done by Medart who is not exactly the fastest back these days.

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Post by Mr Bounce Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:37 pm

Farrell managed to drop the ball over the line a couple of years ago against Toulouse whilst showboating/not concentrating. Didn't even need anyone else's help! However, nobody remembers that these days. Doubt Freddie will be too affected...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNCIu4zbTuU


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Post by Collapse2005 Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:55 pm

whocares wrote:I feel bad for Burns. Specially for being done by Medart who is not exactly the fastest back these days.

So do I. Shame it wasnt Aston instead. Someone really showboating.

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Post by Duty281 Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:36 pm

Mr Bounce wrote:Farrell managed to drop the ball over the line a couple of years ago against Toulouse whilst showboating/not concentrating. Didn't even need anyone else's help! However, nobody remembers that these days. Doubt Freddie will be too affected...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNCIu4zbTuU


Fair enough, but Saracens were 12 points up when Farrell did that, and they went on to win by 11 points.

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Post by Artful_Dodger Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:37 pm

Duty281 wrote:
Mr Bounce wrote:Farrell managed to drop the ball over the line a couple of years ago against Toulouse whilst showboating/not concentrating. Didn't even need anyone else's help! However, nobody remembers that these days. Doubt Freddie will be too affected...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNCIu4zbTuU


Fair enough, but Saracens were 12 points up when Farrell did that, and they went on to win by 11 points.

It's also the missed sitter from in front of the posts before hand.....and the whole blowing a kiss to the crowd thing.

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Post by sensisball Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:06 am

First time i have watched Bath this season and i thought they looked fairly rudderless. Louw was good and Attwood carried well but otherwise they were pretty unimpressive. Its the first time i have seen Mercer and i couldn't quite see why he on the fringes of the England senior squad. He doesn't, yet, look like he has the power, or game management, to play for England. I guess he has time on his side. Once Jones leaves after (or before?) the world cup he may get a chance to get some international experience.
Toulouse are playing better this season than last,but are still far from title contenders. A disappointing first outing for Bath in what is shaping up to be another disappointing season. Blackadder will be glad he has already put pen to paper on his contract extension.

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Post by Irish Londoner Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:27 am

Mr Bounce wrote:Farrell managed to drop the ball over the line a couple of years ago against Toulouse whilst showboating/not concentrating. Didn't even need anyone else's help! However, nobody remembers that these days. Doubt Freddie will be too affected...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNCIu4zbTuU


Err, you did ?

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Post by HongKongCherry Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:41 pm

Poor old Freddie. I don't think he was actually showboating, just showing relief after missing such an easy kick to win the game...
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Post by LondonTiger Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:46 pm

HongKongCherry wrote:Poor old Freddie.  I don't think he was actually showboating, just showing relief after missing such an easy kick to win the game...


I was so sure when clicked on the topic, having seen you had posted, that you were going to say:



Te trouble with Bath is.............it is not Gloucester.

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Post by Pot Hale Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:18 pm

...they don’t fill you with joy?

... they’re always leaving you empty?

... you have to endlessly plug them?

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Post by HongKongCherry Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:28 pm

LondonTiger wrote:
HongKongCherry wrote:Poor old Freddie.  I don't think he was actually showboating, just showing relief after missing such an easy kick to win the game...


I was so sure when clicked on the topic, having seen you had posted, that you were going to say:



Te trouble with Bath is.............it is not Gloucester.

Am I that predictable? That was very much my first thought, but then I decided to refrain as I've never been known to have any form of schadenfreude for my dear neighbours... Whistle
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Post by TightHEAD Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:59 pm

We don't get Ref or TMO Calls.

Kaino banned for 5 weeks. so it should have been a red then! Farce.
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Post by formerly known as Sam Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:53 pm

TightHEAD wrote:We don't get Ref or TMO Calls.

Kaino banned for 5 weeks. so it should have been a red then! Farce.

Still think that's harsh unless there's another camera angle showing initial contact with the head and not the chest.

The loosehead's cheap shot head butt was far worse.

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Post by TightHEAD Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:20 am

Red as the day is long.

Not the sort of tackle we want to see in the game, reckless high head shot.
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Post by formerly known as Sam Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:44 pm

TightHEAD wrote:Red as the day is long.

Not the sort of tackle we want to see in the game, reckless high head shot.

If there's a camera shot of initial contact with the head it's a red and a longer ban than 5 weeks. If there's not and there wasn't when the game was televised it's a yellow card as it looked like contact was on the chest and then rising up. The camera angles when the game was televised weren't great.

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Post by TightHEAD Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:20 pm

The Trouble with Bath is .........? Red-card1
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Post by LondonTiger Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:31 pm

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TightHEAD wrote:Red as the day is long.

Not the sort of tackle we want to see in the game, reckless high head shot.

If there's a camera shot of initial contact with the head it's a red and a longer ban than 5 weeks. If there's not and there wasn't when the game was televised it's a yellow card as it looked like contact was on the chest and then rising up. The camera angles when the game was televised weren't great.

My understanding was that any challenge that involved contact with force to the head, even if it started lower, was now to be deemed a red card offence.

Having now seen the presentation given to refs about the type of challenges they wish to eradicate, this was a red card all day long. That Brace and the TMO missed it is criminal.

However Bath did not lose because of that decision. They lost because for the second time this season a player showboating dropped the ball over the line.


What is wrong with Bath? Too many average players receiving substandard coaching.

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Post by LondonTiger Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:43 pm

PS that last critique could also apply to Tigers

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Post by formerly known as Sam Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:55 pm

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TightHEAD wrote:Red as the day is long.

Not the sort of tackle we want to see in the game, reckless high head shot.

If there's a camera shot of initial contact with the head it's a red and a longer ban than 5 weeks. If there's not and there wasn't when the game was televised it's a yellow card as it looked like contact was on the chest and then rising up. The camera angles when the game was televised weren't great.

My understanding was that any challenge that involved contact with force to the head, even if it started lower, was now to be deemed a red card offence.

Having now seen the presentation given to refs about the type of challenges they wish to eradicate, this was a red card all day long. That Brace and the TMO missed it is criminal.

However Bath did not lose because of that decision. They lost because for the second time this season a player showboating dropped the ball over the line.


What is wrong with Bath? Too many average players receiving substandard coaching.

Ah that would be a change that missed me by. In that case it was a red card all day. There was plenty of force and he caught the head as Roberts crumbled after the initial contact.

I'm not sold on Blackadder at Bath. I think substandard probably describes him. Winning nothing with that Crusaders side was criminal and as soon as he left Robertson is dominating minus the Crusaders two greatest sons.

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Post by carpet baboon Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:56 pm

Have I really just read that Bruce Craig has written to the EPRC demanding that the game against Toulouse is replayed?
What an absolute gobsh#te

Exclusive: Bath are writing to the Champions Cup organisers to demand a replay of their defeat by Toulouse | @owenslot

https://t.co/mKxojrUQYG

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Post by Collapse2005 Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:47 pm

Haha I saw that too. In fairness I did think it was odd that the ref blew the game up early but they really need to just take the hit and move on.

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Post by robbo277 Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:49 pm

They could bring them all back and just replay the last 4 seconds? That way you could do it on a Tuesday afternoon or something to fit it in the calendar.

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Post by TightHEAD Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:03 pm

Bruce Craig, what a guy!

The reason why Bath if everyone’s 2nd favourite team, you just can’t help but love him.
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Post by carpet baboon Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:28 pm

It's being reported the good old Bruce wants to take this to the court of abrIrrational for sport to get the game replayed.
Can someone please go show him how he could use his money to do some good rather than being a child

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