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BamBam wrote:In my admittedly biased opinion, my midfield would completely dominate against Motta who is being phased out of the PSG side and Behrami who is ultimately a Watford player.

Miky was set up to face a 4-4-2, not a 4-3-3, and if Alonso and Moses are pushing on, that leaves Mane up against Kaboul out wide, which quite frankly is a torching

I can't see any threat from Sarabia and Immobile against my defence, and have tactically countered Robben already to limit his effect on the game - Tierney played against Barcelona and City without embarassing himself so I'm a bit miffed 

Nothing personal Miky, just slightly frustrating

Fernando wrote:My tactics are in Good Luck Hero it'll be interesting to see how my tactics goes down

Trebs wrote:

Fernando wrote:My tactics are in Good Luck Hero it'll be interesting to see how my tactics goes down

I wouldn't worry about it too much. You can do every single thing right tactically and still not get the win because the other team is judged to have a better XI.

Trebs wrote:

Fernando wrote:My tactics are in Good Luck Hero it'll be interesting to see how my tactics goes down

I wouldn't worry about it too much. You can do every single thing right tactically and still not get the win because the other team is judged to have a better XI.

Fernando wrote:I do like how Bam is complaining over Robben Everyone knows he cuts in on his left foot but you won't many teams that's ever stopped him actually doing it

Afro wrote:For me, tactics and starting XI carry equal weight in my decisions.

But what that means is someone with a better starting XI has to do less tactically.

Whilst having a better starting XI doesn't automatically give you a win, neither does doing the better tactics.

You can have the worse team but get everything tactically bang on, but if the other manager does enough tactically, they can still beat you

Fernando wrote:1) Thiago has started every Ligue 1 game bar 2 this season so that point is null & void as he keeps Rabiot out the team #Awkward.
2) If tactics are correct as Trebizzle complains about why can't Behrami do well?
3) They are all rather defensive midfielders except Cyprien so to expect creativity from them is not likely and not enough
4) Iwobi is sh*t
5) Expecting Ibra to go against 3 and win is not going to happen
6) Watford have a potent front 3 weather you've heard of them or not

Trebs wrote:

Fernando wrote:My tactics are in Good Luck Hero it'll be interesting to see how my tactics goes down

I wouldn't worry about it too much. You can do every single thing right tactically and still not get the win because the other team is judged to have a better XI.

Trebs wrote:

Fernando wrote:1) Thiago has started every Ligue 1 game bar 2 this season so that point is null & void as he keeps Rabiot out the team #Awkward.
2) If tactics are correct as Trebizzle complains about why can't Behrami do well?
3) They are all rather defensive midfielders except Cyprien so to expect creativity from them is not likely and not enough
4) Iwobi is sh*t
5) Expecting Ibra to go against 3 and win is not going to happen
6) Watford have a potent front 3 weather you've heard of them or not

Sorry Nando but that one is 100% incorrect.

Trebs wrote:

Afro wrote:For me, tactics and starting XI carry equal weight in my decisions.

But what that means is someone with a better starting XI has to do less tactically.

Whilst having a better starting XI doesn't automatically give you a win, neither does doing the better tactics.

You can have the worse team but get everything tactically bang on, but if the other manager does enough tactically, they can still beat you

There's two issues though:
1. It's not like I'm the real life Sunderland team playing Barcelona. While I admit my XI was not quite as good as yours this week, it's not like it's a ridiculous deficit in quality.

2. Surely the tactics are more important than the overall quality of the XI? I accept both matter, but I'd rather see a lower quality well drilled team over a higher quality team with no idea what they're doing.

Afro wrote:

Trebs wrote:

Fernando wrote:1) Thiago has started every Ligue 1 game bar 2 this season so that point is null & void as he keeps Rabiot out the team #Awkward.
2) If tactics are correct as Trebizzle complains about why can't Behrami do well?
3) They are all rather defensive midfielders except Cyprien so to expect creativity from them is not likely and not enough
4) Iwobi is sh*t
5) Expecting Ibra to go against 3 and win is not going to happen
6) Watford have a potent front 3 weather you've heard of them or not

Sorry Nando but that one is 100% incorrect.

By my reckoning, it's 21 out of 26, 2 of which he was unavailable, so still doesn't suggest he is struggling to get into the team.

However, Rabiot has started 12 out of 19 he has been available, so he's not really being kept out of the side.

Fernando wrote:1) Thiago has started every Ligue 1 game bar 2 this season so that point is null & void as he keeps Rabiot out the team #Awkward.
2) If tactics are correct as Trebizzle complains about why can't Behrami do well?
3) They are all rather defensive midfielders except Cyprien so to expect creativity from them is not likely and not enough
4) Iwobi is sh*t
5) Expecting Ibra to go against 3 and win is not going to happen
6) Watford have a potent front 3 weather you've heard of them or not

Afro wrote:

Trebs wrote:

Afro wrote:For me, tactics and starting XI carry equal weight in my decisions.

But what that means is someone with a better starting XI has to do less tactically.

Whilst having a better starting XI doesn't automatically give you a win, neither does doing the better tactics.

You can have the worse team but get everything tactically bang on, but if the other manager does enough tactically, they can still beat you

There's two issues though:
1. It's not like I'm the real life Sunderland team playing Barcelona. While I admit my XI was not quite as good as yours this week, it's not like it's a ridiculous deficit in quality.

2. Surely the tactics are more important than the overall quality of the XI? I accept both matter, but I'd rather see a lower quality well drilled team over a higher quality team with no idea what they're doing.

On the flip side, your tactics weren't noticeably better than mine though. Yours might have been more specific, but mine didn't need to be this week. With your injuries, targeting your defence through pace and movement was as complicated as it needed to be. Intricately thought out tactics, doesn't mean better. Sometimes, keeping it simple and targeting the obvious is better (think Wimbledon)

Fernando wrote:Your tactics were not well thought out Trebs wasn't even anything for your back 4 in your tactics. Not even mention Castro once. What you wrote could be broken to less then 100 words imho.

Fernando wrote:59 Words Trebs

Wingers to stretch the defense and get in behind the full backs
Alli to drift in the final 3rd looking for the ball to create
Defoe to stay in the 18 yard box and look to poach chances
When their in possession Gueye & Alli to man mark Dembele & Coutinho to cut the supply out for the forward

Literally says nothing different to your tactics in a lot less words and gives you a hell of a lot more to play with