England vs Italy

by nathan Mon 20 Feb 2017, 9:01 pm

First topic message reminder :

28 players that have been kept.

Forwards (16): Jack Clifford (Harlequins), Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers), Charlie Ewels (Bath), Jamie George (Saracens), Teimana Harrison (Northampton Saints), Dylan Hartley (Northampton Saints), James Haskell (Wasps), Nathan Hughes (Wasps), Maro Itoje (Saracens), Joe Launchbury (Wasps), Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints), Joe Marler (Harlequins), Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins), Mako Vunipola (Saracens), Mike Williams (Leicester Tigers), Tom Wood (Northampton Saints)

Backs (12): Mike Brown (Harlequins), Danny Care (Harlequins), Elliot Daly (Wasps), Owen Farrell (Saracens), George Ford (Bath), Jonathan Joseph (Bath), Jonny May (Gloucester), Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs), Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs), Ben Te’o (Worcester Warriors), Anthony Watson (Bath), Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers)

by Heaf Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:10 pm

tigertattie wrote:Hmmm. Call me picky, but Care didn't kick that for his quick penalty

yes he did ...

by TheMildlyFranticLlama Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:10 pm

tigertattie wrote:Hmmm. Call me picky, but Care didn't kick that for his quick penalty

I thought the same. Ball has to leave your hands doesn't it?

by marty2086 Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:10 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:Well they've clicked on to the ruck issue.

And thats the problem for Italy, Favaro could have slowed the ball down but stood off and allowed quick ball

by Geordie Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:10 pm

Ill say again..it might be legal I just think those tactics are cr@p!!

by Heaf Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:10 pm

look closely - it does .. just

by TightHEAD Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:11 pm

tigertattie wrote:Eddie Jones seems to have earned his salary at half time

And some.

by RuggerRadge2611 Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:11 pm

It was obvious with all the Video coverage and rule experts they would figure this tactic out. Now, Italy will implode

by nathan Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:11 pm

marty2086 wrote:And Te'o passed forward for that

Nope

by Scottrf Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:12 pm

Few pick and goes and the try comes...as was obvious. Why they needed HT for that I don't know.

by TightHEAD Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:12 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:Ill say again..it might be legal I just think those tactics are cr@p!!

Crap and cowardly imho, kick them out and invite Georgia to join.

by majesticimperialman Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:12 pm

England in a bit of trouble at half time.

They will have to play totaly different in the second half or else Italy could well upset the apple cart.

Never heared of the only a tackle not a ruck before.

by Heaf Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:12 pm

TheMildlyFranticLlama wrote:
tigertattie wrote:Hmmm. Call me picky, but Care didn't kick that for his quick penalty

I thought the same. Ball has to leave your hands doesn't it?

yes and it did - just

by marty2086 Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:13 pm

nathan wrote:
marty2086 wrote:And Te'o passed forward for that

Nope

I think you'll find he did

by nathan Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:14 pm

marty2086 wrote:
nathan wrote:
marty2086 wrote:And Te'o passed forward for that

Nope

I think you'll find he did

Nope

by Geordie Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:15 pm

TightHEAD wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:Ill say again..it might be legal I just think those tactics are cr@p!!

Crap and cowardly imho, kick them out and invite Georgia to join.

Yeah cant disagree with that

by nathan Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:15 pm

Hopefully youngs will have done his homework, forwards need to get to the ruck quicker though

by TheMildlyFranticLlama Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:15 pm

Heaf wrote:
TheMildlyFranticLlama wrote:
tigertattie wrote:Hmmm. Call me picky, but Care didn't kick that for his quick penalty

I thought the same. Ball has to leave your hands doesn't it?

yes and it did - just

Fair enough, good play wins over dodgy eyesight!

by Heaf Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:15 pm

Heaf wrote:If Italy keep trying that no ruck thing just pick up and run it as they will be short of defenders ...

I should be a coach Smile

by TightHEAD Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:17 pm

Heaf wrote:
Heaf wrote:If Italy keep trying that no ruck thing just pick up and run it as they will be short of defenders ...

I should be a coach

My under 9s team would have worked that out

by Heaf Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:17 pm

TheMildlyFranticLlama wrote:
Heaf wrote:
TheMildlyFranticLlama wrote:
tigertattie wrote:Hmmm. Call me picky, but Care didn't kick that for his quick penalty

I thought the same. Ball has to leave your hands doesn't it?

yes and it did - just

Fair enough, good play wins over dodgy eyesight!

I have to admit I had to rewind to check ...

by formerly known as Sam Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:17 pm

Scottrf wrote:Few pick and goes and the try comes...as was obvious. Why they needed HT for that I don't know.

Because the leaders in the team clearly didn't know the laws.

by Heaf Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:18 pm

TightHEAD wrote:
Heaf wrote:
Heaf wrote:If Italy keep trying that no ruck thing just pick up and run it as they will be short of defenders ...

I should be a coach

My under 9s team would have worked that out

well quite - makes you wonder why professional players couldn't ...

by Scottrf Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:18 pm

And if it's not a ruck you can dive on it...

by Rory_Gallagher Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:19 pm

Italy are trolling England.

by TightHEAD Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:19 pm

Heaf wrote:
TightHEAD wrote:
Heaf wrote:
Heaf wrote:If Italy keep trying that no ruck thing just pick up and run it as they will be short of defenders ...

I should be a coach

My under 9s team would have worked that out

well quite - makes you wonder why professional players couldn't ...

And for that reason Dylan heartly has to go

by Geordie Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:19 pm

Ah for gods sake this is just a mockery of the sport!!!

Get Italy out of this competiton.

by TightHEAD Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:20 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:Ah for gods sake this is just a mockery of the sport!!!

Get Italy out of this competiton.

Yes.

by Heaf Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:21 pm

even when there is an offside line Poite is ignoring it ..

by Scottrf Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:21 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:
Scottrf wrote:Few pick and goes and the try comes...as was obvious. Why they needed HT for that I don't know.

Because the leaders in the team clearly didn't know the laws.

True but forget whether it's a ruck. If there's no competition for the ball, there are missing defenders and passing is being blocked it's the obvious thing to do.

by **Rugby Fan** Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:22 pm

I think some of the England starters would now have preferred to come off the bench, having seen how the game is playing out.

by mid_gen Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:22 pm

Itoje is having a massive game, how many turnovers so far?

by TightHEAD Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:22 pm

Ref has lost the plot.

by TightHEAD Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:22 pm

Hughes moves sideways

by Rory_Gallagher Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:22 pm

It's quite fascinating to watch for non-English fans. England can't just throw out teams they don't like.

by kingelderfield Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:23 pm

Has everyone else clocked that Jones has instructed Nowell to join the forwards and to run through the centre?

by SecretFly Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:23 pm

Poite copping out of making his own decision there...

by Heaf Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:23 pm

So a player off his feet kicks the ball and that's OK but when an England player then touches it it's a pen?

by TightHEAD Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:24 pm

FARCE

Rule change needed and Poor Roman has just Reffed his last international.

by Scottrf Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:26 pm

I hope the people whinging at Italy trying a new tactic are kidding...

by kingelderfield Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:26 pm

Brilliant try

by EnglishReign Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:26 pm

Campagnaro absolute class, should've started the last 2.

by Geordie Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:27 pm

Wow...you have to tackle. The Italian should have be levelled!!!!

by SecretFly Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:27 pm

wonderful try

by TightHEAD Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:27 pm

Scottrf wrote:I hope the people whinging at Italy trying a new tactic are kidding...

No. Georgia deserve a place in the six nations.

by Heaf Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:28 pm

And if a ball is knocked out of your hands by another player's shoulder and goes backwards how is that a knock-on?

by tigertattie Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:28 pm

Mike brown, what was that? And folk day Hogg's defence is bad!!!

by kingelderfield Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:28 pm

Heads will roll after this performance

by Geordie Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:28 pm

Scottrf wrote:I hope the people whinging at Italy trying a new tactic are kidding...

No I'm not. Its an appalling tactic. Hugely negative. ANd if it was Italy v Ireland or Scotland etc I would say exactly the same.

by Rory_Gallagher Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:29 pm

TightHEAD wrote:
Scottrf wrote:I hope the people whinging at Italy trying a new tactic are kidding...

No. Georgia deserve a place in the six nations.

...until the English don't like them and try to get rid of them.

by TightHEAD Sun 26 Feb 2017, 4:30 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:
TightHEAD wrote:
Scottrf wrote:I hope the people whinging at Italy trying a new tactic are kidding...

No. Georgia deserve a place in the six nations.

...until the English don't like them and try to get rid of them.

Correct.

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