Fury vs Klitschko OFF

Oh dear....

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Source?

Just breaking on Twitter. Awaiting official confirmation.

Not that I really care, but why?

DAVE667 wrote:Not that I really care, but why?

"Setback in training". Word is he's 20 stone and ticket sales are abysmal.

Something big coming in this UKAD hearing - I can smell it. I knew this one wouldn't happen.

Terrible from Fury. Absolutely terrible.

I am a fan of Fury, very disappointed.

Not often I feel sorry for Wlad, but it's a farce now.

Fury needs to be stripped of the title immediately, he's a disgrace!

Get Wlad and David Haye to fight for the vacant title

There, problem sorted!

Get Wlad vs someone. Not Haye yet.

If Haye ain't ready now he never will be. He's going to be frozen out of the picture til next year at the very earliest. Get in now.

Think Haye has Wilder. WBA has no mandatory contender. WBO could strip Fury and make Klitschko vs Parker but word is that Parker may fight AJ on Nov 26.

Official line is this fight is just postponed....again...

I'm sure the governing bodies will be salivating at the thought of taking the belts off Fury and sticking them on 3 different boxers. Shame as heavyweight division was one of the few with a clear champion.

Can't wait for Haye vs Briggs for the WBA, MTV & SM:TV live championship of the world!

Gets a one off win over an unprepared Wladamir and now runs into the sunset knowing his fate.

Ultimate duck. Almost worse than Canelo.

Let's get him stripped and kick him to where he belongs, out of the ring.

Good news for boxing this

Reckon Tyson Fury is burning all his bridges.  It's just one thing after another, from his criticising the sport, not bothering to get into shape, saying he has had enough of Britain and will leave, retire from boxing, misogynistic and racist / anti-semitic rants, his non-appearance at a televised promotional event, his delaying the fight for a sprained ankle, his failed drugs test, another postponement  / cancellation for unspecified medical issues ...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/37456191

Ben Dirs, BBC Sport wrote:"Few in the fight game will be surprised to hear that Fury-Klitschko II is off again.

"Last week, Fury failed to show up to a press conference in London, at which Klitschko said he suspected the rematch would never happen.

"Rumours have circulated that he has not been training and there is a real possibility that he will be stripped of his world titles, having not defended them since dethroning Klitschko last November."

Get him in with AJ, he needs an opponent!

mobilemaster8 wrote:Gets a one off win over an unprepared Wladamir and now runs into the sunset knowing his fate.

Ultimate duck. Almost worse than Canelo.

Let's get him stripped and kick him to where he belongs, out of the ring.

Good news for boxing this

You won't be saying that when Wlad takes over the division again

Unprepared, LOL come on you dislike him but don't lie

He ain't ducking he has a medical condition, he should be stripped and AJ and Wlad fight in Nov

Dan is reporting that he needs to go into a mental institution

If Tyson is suffering from a mental health problem then I take back my earlier remarks. It wouldn't surprise me, he's openly spoken out about his symptoms in the past. Hope he gets well.

Shocking behaviour from Fury and his team I agree he should be relinquished from the belts - the guys I feel sorry for are the fans who've bought tickets for the event (not sure if any on here) i toyed with the idea of going myself. Been to a few events this year and organising travel, accomodation is costly - disgraceful treatment of boxing fans once again. Klitschko needs an opponent - AJ needs an opponent (Hearn keeps telling us he's the best) so he's your chance or shall I stop dreaming?

Cheers , Rodders

He needs to take a complete break....Get his head sorted....

Problem is that the King-opportunist Haye is rubbing his hands in the wings doing the maths...

Haye v Stiff = Belt....

If Haye was set for Wilder you can bet it won't happen now..

He's had a year off already! How long is a " complete break"

HAHA HAHAHA Fury is an absolute joke! What a complete joke. Sod whatever 'condition' he's coming up with now.

Gave him the benefit of the doubt for a legitimate brilliant win against K (doubt any other boxer in the world could have pulled that off) but now he's back to the fool that uppercuts himself and gets dropped by cruiserweights.

horizontalhero wrote:He's had a year off already! How long is a " complete break"

If he has work related depression....He needs to get away from work..

Wlad is a permanent fixture in his life..

Maybe vacate.......and recuperate..

Rodney wrote:Shocking behaviour from Fury and his team I agree he should be relinquished from the belts - the guys I feel sorry for are the fans who've bought tickets for the event (not sure if any on here) i toyed with the idea of going myself.  Been to a few events this year and organising travel, accomodation is costly - disgraceful treatment of boxing fans once again. Klitschko needs an opponent - AJ needs an opponent (Hearn keeps telling us he's the best) so he's your chance or shall I stop dreaming?

Cheers , Rodders

I had them and sent them back a few weeks ago. I had decreasing confidence the fight would happen and a £600 + quid weekend means a quiet few weeks before and after. Did not want to risk living like a bleeding hermit for weeks for an event that looked unlikely to happen.

As an aside have to say the reaction of some people on here has been shameful. If Fury is genuinely suffering from mental illness it deserves sympathy not abuse. I personally hope he gets the help he needs and makes a speedy recovery.

Mental issues?  Yes maybe.   He has already said he doesn't like boxing.  Somewhere along the line he fell out of love with it.  Maybe it was just too much hard work for him - all the training that goes into preparing for a fight.  He says he is naturally lazy.  So the only thing that was keeping him in boxing was the idea of proving himself to be the best - to win a world title ... to beat the best that had dominated the division for ten years - Wladimir Klitshko.  And somehow he managed to beat him and so he became an instant global superstar with global attention ... But after the glory, after the stratospheric high ... then what.  Maybe he hates boxing and now he has nothing to prove to himself ... and he is just too lazy to get himself motivated for this fight - and he doesn't have the balls to quit - because maybe he doesn't know what he wants to do next.  So we have what we have ... and other people are going to have to make the decision for him.  He has to be stripped off the belts and he has to sort himself out.

if you carry the depression gene then you shouldn't do cocaine simple as that that's all I've got to say on it. The gene can remain dormant your whole life but if it's there lurking cocaine can activate it

Like to see him give the title up for now feeling a touch of sympathy for Wlad like to see Wlad vs Joshua for the title c'mon Eddy make it

Said it some weeks ago but if Hearn is not on the phone to Wlad this morning he is not doing his job. Don't know if he would take it but you've got an ageing big name opponent who has gone through the expense of training and will be wanting to get back into the mix and in action soon. He might just fancy it.

Though of course Eddy will want Wlad Joshua in a big stadium summer so not sure if I can believe Eddy would Wlad next up

Not the time of year for Josh v Wlad....Rowley...

It is a stadium fight if marketed in the right way....Needs an angle.....Smart move would be Spring next year....Gives Josh another fight's experience (Wlad will be the most dangerous fighter by a mile he has fought) plus Wlad will be six months older...Maybe he will also have a belt.

Id still like to see it next up though if it can be done no doubt but would it bring in maximum revenue we got to think of Eddy

Herman Jaeger wrote:if you carry the depression gene then you shouldn't do cocaine simple as that that's all I've got to say on it. The gene can remain dormant your whole life but if it's there lurking cocaine can activate it

It's almost like people with mental issues don't always make intelligent lifestyle choices. Who knew?

With all due respect, if Hearn is matching Joshua against Breazale and (looking to match him with) Hughie Fury then he isn't going anywhere near Klitschko. Not a chance.

There's plenty of video interviews out there where Tyson explains that one minute he's on Cloud 9, the next at rock bottom wondering what it's all about. Belts, fighting, fame, winning, losing - none of it means anything.

He needs to get out of the sport and get well. Then see if he wants anything to do with it down the road.

He'll be a shadow hanging over the division until he's beaten, however.

He has manic depression......Very common.

B**tard thing to have and a b**tard thing to have to live with someone who has it...

Thoughts with him and his family..

If Tyson fury is being institutionalised then he really should get more sympathy.

if he genuinely unwell then fair enough its the right decision. but the cynic in me is saying he's used a excuse thats very difficult to prove and a easy out

been a critic of mike tyson in the past for the way he didnt deal with pressure and the way he imploded. tyson certainly had his mental issues yet doesn't get a free ride, why should fury

if he gets properly institutionalized then i take it back, and i dont mean couple of weeks with his feet up in the priory

we live in a age where every fat kid is unfit because of asthma, and every naughty kid is like that because of adhd. everyone stupid is dyslexic. its why im fairly cynical with lot of issues like this

Rowley wrote:

Rodney wrote:Shocking behaviour from Fury and his team I agree he should be relinquished from the belts - the guys I feel sorry for are the fans who've bought tickets for the event (not sure if any on here) i toyed with the idea of going myself.  Been to a few events this year and organising travel, accomodation is costly - disgraceful treatment of boxing fans once again. Klitschko needs an opponent - AJ needs an opponent (Hearn keeps telling us he's the best) so he's your chance or shall I stop dreaming?

Cheers , Rodders

I had them and sent them back a few weeks ago. I had decreasing confidence the fight would happen and a £600 + quid weekend means a quiet few weeks before and after. Did not want to risk living like a bleeding hermit for weeks for an event that looked unlikely to happen.

As an aside have to say the reaction of some people on here has been shameful. If Fury is genuinely suffering from mental illness it deserves sympathy not abuse. I personally hope he gets the help he needs and makes a speedy recovery.

Mate, you are right- my comments have been less than sympathetic, and he has a mental illness, in pretty bad taste, but can you imagine the reaction if was Haye we were talking about here- half the board would be demanding he be hung, drawn and quartered!

Likewise, I made a flippant comment in the other fury thread, which was inappropriate and ill timed. If it's genuinely the reason then let's hope he gets treatment... One McCall Lewis was enough.

Mental illness can be a debilitating disease and as truss says toxic for those who have it and their loved ones.

It's pretty obvious he has an illness. I hope he gets the right care.

He still should be stripped though and when he's better, he can make a go for the title, if he wants to.

Mentally distraught enough to get on the beers in France with England fans, screwed up enough to go clubbing in the lead up to his original K date, and so broken down tonight that he was fine enough to turn up and watch the boxing ringside.....

Many mental illnesses are typified by extreme highs and extreme lows. Just because someone is not sat in a darkened room crying 24/7 it does not mean there is obviously nothing wrong with them.

A lot of people have mental issues. Many of Tyson Fury's issues were self inflicted by his behaviour that turned many people against him and for which he was severely criticised. He wasn't able to take the criticism threatening to leave Britain and quit Boxing. Yes he has issues but his misogynistic, homophobic and anti-Semitic rants were all self inflicted, his bad attitude to boxing that gave him opportunities in life and made him a multi-millionaire, were all self inflicted. He seems very self-absorbed, selfish, unpleasant ... and that has rebounded on him. He needs to grow up. There are too many "babies" in this world.

There are also too many judgemental people happy to criticise people they don't and to comment on subjects such as mental illness which I'd suspect 99% have absolutely zero qualifications in.

There is still such horrible stigma about mental illness. Had news broken this morning that fury had cancer he would have received universal sympathy. The news breaks he is mentally unwell he basically gets told to pull himself together and man up. Terrible stuff.

You're wasting your time...You're dealing with the same kind of moron that thinks alcoholics drink because they enjoy it..

Just leave them to their ignorance..

There are also too many people that hear the word 'mental' and immediately clamour to forgive all manner of sins....

Comparing hypothetical self diagnosed 'mental illness' with cancer.....fecking tragic.

Must say I was a little surprised seeing Fury at the Crolla fight last night...

Pulled out of Wlad because of depression on Friday and parading about in front of Manchester fans on Saturday...many of whom probably had purchased tickets...

Showed an unsurprising lack of tact...

No one wishes depression on anybody and I've had experience of seeing the effects up close...

Should have watched it at home...

Yeh, it's not going to garner much sympathy.

In general you'd think very few people haven't been touched by/witnessed mental illness in some shape or form these days and would be a little more sympathetic. I guess there's still the stiff upper lip mentality in the uk... And Maybe the perception that half the population seem to be popping fluoxetine chucked at them by their gp's, trivialises it to some degree.

But diagnosed clinical depression and bi-polar disorder can be very serious conditions. Of course i don't think it has been confirmed that that's what fury has, so all supposition at this stage.

Some people develop mental issues when they can't make decisions.  It seems to me that Tyson Fury doesn't want to box, doesn't want to do the training, but feels he has to box ...  Either he has climbed his personal mountain and having reached the summit has lost all motivation ... or he just doesn't want to fight Wladimir again - he would rather have an easy fight where he doesn't have to train much and there is a less of a risk of being sparked out ... or a fight with someone else, so something new, for which he can motivate himself for.

This is Dr* Wladimir Klitschko's view before the first fight:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-3312437/Wladimir-Klitschko-admits-thinks-Tyson-Fury-bipolar-mental-issues-opponent-s-rant-homosexuality-abortion-paedophilia-devil-worshipping.html

*PhD in "sports science and philosophy" from the University of Kiev, Ukraine, January 2001.

PhD in sports science and philosophy. That's this debate done then.