The UEFA Champions League and Europa League Thread 2016/17

by Duty281 Tue 12 Jul 2016, 8:08 pm

First topic message reminder :

Might as well make a poll on this one...

by Ent Thu 15 Sep 2016, 7:55 pm

Mourinhos got his work cut out anyway.

Another shambles of a performance apparently.

by compelling and rich Thu 15 Sep 2016, 7:59 pm

didnt even watch it, not really fussed about this but it would be nice to see a bit of fight from the players trying to keep/gain their spot in the starting line up

by **Crimey** Thu 15 Sep 2016, 8:23 pm

Considering the strength of the side put out, that is really poor.

by compelling and rich Thu 15 Sep 2016, 8:29 pm

we weren't ever just going to turn into a good side from a bad side overnight. think there has to be a element of patience, which most fans wont considering the signings of zlatan and pogba.

our transfer policy has been poor for quiet some time, fergie left a weak squad, moyes weakened us even further. and who knows what van gaal was doing. its going to take some time but do think the team is getting better

by Fernando Thu 15 Sep 2016, 8:40 pm

Even so you should be able to turn over Feyenoord with the side you put out.

by Ent Thu 15 Sep 2016, 8:53 pm

Fergie left a decent squad.

Lack of effort is a major concern for me.

by compelling and rich Thu 15 Sep 2016, 9:11 pm

Ent wrote:Fergie left a decent squad.

Lack of effort is a major concern for me.

we started that season with a midfield of anderson, cleverly and carrick with our attacking wide options were valencia, nani and young. cant say it was brilliant, we had a very old defence, evra had long since given up defending and rafael never knew how to in the first place. fergie got the best out of them and mainly rvp but the squad was poor.

by Ent Thu 15 Sep 2016, 9:15 pm

compelling and rich wrote:
Ent wrote:Fergie left a decent squad.

Lack of effort is a major concern for me.

we started that season with a midfield of anderson, cleverly and carrick with our attacking wide options were valencia, nani and young. cant say it was brilliant, we had a very old defence, evra had long since given up defending and rafael never knew how to in the first place. fergie got the best out of them and mainly rvp but the squad was poor.

They'd just won the league at a canter and pushed real close in the cl knock out stages.

Wasn't our best ever but don't think it was poor by any stretch of the imagination.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Thu 15 Sep 2016, 10:12 pm

The squad and league that year both poor. Then RVP basically reverted to the body he'd had at Arsenal so no one was there to carry you.

I watched. United were unimaginative. Best moments were late on when they went direct

by GSC Thu 15 Sep 2016, 10:49 pm

It was a decent squad but as Dolph said the league that year was entering its lull in quality, and RVP stopped trying once he had the PL win he came for/SAF left.

by Ent Fri 16 Sep 2016, 12:40 am

The effort isn't there, think they can just turn up and win currently.

Not doing the basics such as working hard. Pogba biggest culprit.

Rooney will continue to be undroppable given the performances of others.

by Hammersmith harrier Fri 16 Sep 2016, 10:06 am

The big difference maker was Ferguson, he managed to get one last season of quality out of players who were either too old or not good enough, the league wasn't that bad either.

by lfc91 Fri 16 Sep 2016, 10:50 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:The squad and league that year both poor. Then RVP basically reverted to the body he'd had at Arsenal so no one was there to carry you.

I watched. United were unimaginative. Best moments were late on when they went direct

A lot of what I've seen from United this year, there best moments come from direct balls. Fellani/Ibra using there height and strength in the box to cause issues. Admittedly not a bad option to have but it shouldn't be one they rely on every game!

by Guest Fri 16 Sep 2016, 11:33 am

Paul Scholes reported as saying that Utd should now buy Modric or Kroos to rein in Pogba as he's "all over the place"

Sounds about right, sp*nk away another £60-70 million because your £90million signing just isn't good enough!

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Fri 16 Sep 2016, 1:05 pm

They need Carrick

by Guest Fri 16 Sep 2016, 4:23 pm

Scholes come across as a miserable git. Remind you of anyone from here? Wink

by **Crimey** Fri 16 Sep 2016, 8:56 pm

I think if United want to get the best out of Pogba they're going to have to go to a three man midfield and allow him more free-reign.

Just like England a lot of the problems stem from not being able to drop Rooney really.

by Ent Fri 16 Sep 2016, 8:59 pm

Problem is every time he doesn't play the team is dogshite and there's no incentive to drop him.

by Fernando Wed 28 Sep 2016, 8:35 pm

UEFA Champions League Group A
HT Arsenal(2) 2 0 (0)Basel
HT Ludogorets(1) 1 1 (1)Paris St Germain

UEFA Champions League Group B
HT Besiktas(1) 1 0 (0)Dynamo Kiev
HT Napoli(1) 1 0 (0)Benfica

UEFA Champions League Group C
HT Borussia Monchengladbach(1) 1 0 (0)Barcelona
HT Celtic(2) 2 2 (2)Manchester City

UEFA Champions League Group D
HT Atletico Madrid(1) 1 0 (0)Bayern Munich
HT FC Rostov(2) 2 2 (2)PSV Eindhoven

by compelling and rich Wed 28 Sep 2016, 8:50 pm

cracking game this, felt like we should have come out and pressed city like this in the derby but mourinho is too cautious for that. just shows they can crack when pressed

by Kay Fabe Thu 29 Sep 2016, 3:30 am

What a brilliant game, a CL classic, City are so quick and clever in their movement but felt we did great too, Dembele is the real deal and my man crush on Tom Rogic and Kolo Toure knows no bounds.

The atmosphere was absolutely incredible, one of the best I can ever remember, hopefully the City fans enjoyed the experience and hopefully they take 3pts off Gladbach

I could watch Kieran Tierney vs Raheem Sterling every week, what a battle they had, proper football, winger vs fullback

by Guest Wed 19 Oct 2016, 8:05 pm

Barca 1-0 City - Messi

by Jermaine2015 Wed 19 Oct 2016, 8:58 pm

Claudio Bravo sent off

by Born Slippy Wed 19 Oct 2016, 8:59 pm

Two bits of terrible goalkeeping in the space of 1 second by Bravo.

by Jermaine2015 Wed 19 Oct 2016, 9:00 pm

Joshua Kimmich on fire this season 7 goals in last 8 appearances, easing some pressure on Ancelotti after a few indifferent results

by Jermaine2015 Wed 19 Oct 2016, 9:06 pm

2-0 Messi

by Jermaine2015 Wed 19 Oct 2016, 9:14 pm

3-0 Messi hat trick. Embarrassing defending.

by Jermaine2015 Wed 19 Oct 2016, 9:19 pm

Mathieu sent off after he replaced the injured Pique in the first half. Moronic.

by Jermaine2015 Wed 19 Oct 2016, 9:24 pm

Monchengladbach 2-0 Celtic in Glasgow, if Borussia can win the reverse match as well they could sneak through this group

by GSC Wed 19 Oct 2016, 9:32 pm

City have collapsed since the red but they were well in that game until that point

by Guest Wed 19 Oct 2016, 9:35 pm

4-0 Neymar

by Jermaine2015 Wed 19 Oct 2016, 9:35 pm

4-0 Neymar Jr, Neymar also missed a PK a couple of minutes earlier

by Jermaine2015 Wed 19 Oct 2016, 9:39 pm

Arsenal 6-0 Ludogorets
PSG 3-0 Basel
Napoli 2-3 Besiktas
Rostov 0-1 Atletico
FC Bayern 4-1 PSV
Dynamo Kyiv 0-2 Benfica
Celtic 0-2 Monchengladbach
Manchester City 0-4 Barcelona

by **Crimey** Wed 19 Oct 2016, 11:46 pm

Guardiola has got to be well disappointed in Bravo so far. After all the fuss of replacing Hart, he's been pretty dire.

by Guest Thu 20 Oct 2016, 12:36 am

Away to Barcelona provides a stern test. As mentioned, until the red card Man City were competitive. Sometimes it is hard to play against ten - because they focus on defence. Apparently, this was not the case for Man City. Following on from a 100% winning start Pep has faltered BUT two loses away at Tottenham and away at Barcelona and a very unlucky draw at home to Everton are not disasters. Man City still lead the premiership (early days) and are in second place in their champions league table.

by Ent Thu 20 Oct 2016, 1:25 am

Crimey wrote:Guardiola has got to be well disappointed in Bravo so far. After all the fuss of replacing Hart, he's been pretty dire.

Shhhhh! Don't question guardiola, he'll be worth more points than he loses blah blah bla.

by kingraf Thu 20 Oct 2016, 1:19 pm

Ent wrote:
Crimey wrote:Guardiola has got to be well disappointed in Bravo so far. After all the fuss of replacing Hart, he's been pretty dire.

Shhhhh! Don't question guardiola, he'll be worth more points than he loses blah blah bla.

to be fair... on the same match day, Neuer picked out Lewandowski with a 60 yard pass under pressure which ended with the ball in the back of the net.

by Ent Thu 20 Oct 2016, 2:12 pm

kingraf wrote:
Ent wrote:
Crimey wrote:Guardiola has got to be well disappointed in Bravo so far. After all the fuss of replacing Hart, he's been pretty dire.

Shhhhh! Don't question guardiola, he'll be worth more points than he loses blah blah bla.

to be fair... on the same match day, Neuer picked out Lewandowski with a 60 yard pass under pressure which ended with the ball in the back of the net.

To be fair neuer is one of the best goalkeepers in the world before you look at his footwork/passing.

by Jermaine2015 Thu 20 Oct 2016, 4:06 pm

I think Bravo forget he left Barcelona and hence he's passed it to Suarez Very Happy

All jokes aside it was a howler, but Bravo is a good keeper. Not Neuer standard, but good nonetheless

by Jermaine2015 Thu 20 Oct 2016, 8:39 pm

1-0 Manchester United. Pogba PK

by Jermaine2015 Thu 20 Oct 2016, 8:41 pm

2-0 Manchester United. Martial PK

by Jermaine2015 Thu 20 Oct 2016, 8:53 pm

3-0 Manchester United. Pogba with a beauty

by Jermaine2015 Thu 20 Oct 2016, 9:12 pm

4-0 Manchester United. Lingard with a beautiful finish from distance, Lingard has been electric thus far.

by Guest Thu 03 Nov 2016, 11:02 am

https://mobile.twitter.com/spurredontv/status/793948396365213696

Looks like his CL experience will be ending early at the group stages. Poch really has had a mare with this call

by GSC Thu 03 Nov 2016, 11:07 am

At least you've let it go

by **Crimey** Thu 03 Nov 2016, 11:36 am

I think Pochettino's style can work, but when they're playing two times a week with largely the same eleven players with his demands, the players end up being exhausted and they do look exhausted.

It's why Klopp last year ended up having to play kids and back up players in the league when we were deep in cup runs.

by Guest Thu 03 Nov 2016, 6:35 pm

https://youtu.be/b9Be5BW9_-w

Pogba also limped off injured

by Guest Thu 03 Nov 2016, 6:59 pm

Just John wrote:https://youtu.be/b9Be5BW9_-w

Pogba also limped off injured

Astonishing goal. One you have to take a look at at least twice. The Man Utd defence were momentarily zombified, not quite understanding what had just happened. There was a time when Wayne Rooney was attempting these shots, similarly Ibrahimovic. I thought Dick Advocaat said his job at Sunderland was going to be his last - but there he is managing Fenerbahce.

by Fernando Tue 22 Nov 2016, 3:12 pm

Serge Aurier denied entry to the UK for PSG's game at the Emirates.

Got 2 month suspended sentence for assaulting an police officer in May which he currently appealing.

by Mad for Chelsea Tue 22 Nov 2016, 9:48 pm

Dortmund have won a match 8-4! Leicester through and top group, Spurs out.

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