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Post by jimbobgooner Sat 4 Jun 2016 - 15:32

SURREY HAVE NAMED A FOURTEEN MAN SQUAD FOR THEIR OPENING GAME IN THE ROYAL LONDON ONE DAY CUP AGAINST THE KENT SPITFIRES ON SUNDAY.
The Surrey squad to play the Kent Spitfires in the Royal London One Day Cup at Beckenham on Sunday 5th June:
Sadly there is no Dwayne Bravo in the 50 over format Sad
Gareth Batty (capt)
Zafar Ansari
James Burke
Rory Burns
Sam Curran
Tom Curran
Steven Davies
Ben Foakes
Stuart Meaker
Mathew Pillans
Jason Roy
Kumar Sangakkara
Dominic Sibley
Gary Wilson
foakes,meaker and sibley possibly to miss out.
over to you chaps thumbsup

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Post by guildfordbat Sat 4 Jun 2016 - 19:32

Cheers, JimBob.

As you say, a shame Bravo isn't playing in this format. Whilst Wilson and Burns tend to just tick over in the middle order, he gave us some really useful welly last night.

Tricky about the three to miss out but I'll go with your choices. Don't expect Pillans or Burke to bowl a full 10, reckon they'll be part of a combo.

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Post by SimonofSurrey Sat 4 Jun 2016 - 20:59

Would rather see Meaker in the XI. He may go for as many as Burke/Pillans but is more likely to pick up wickets as he does so. I'd rather see 3-70 off 10 overs than 0-65.

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Post by guildfordbat Sat 4 Jun 2016 - 21:25

Simon - understand that about Meaker. He might still edge Pillans or, more likely, Burke out. That would be my own temptation - just not convinced that Stewie/MDV will see it the same way.

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Sat 4 Jun 2016 - 21:52

I would try Meaker in preference to Pillans.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 9:37

Burns, Wilson and Pillans would miss out for me

Roy
Davies
Sanga
Sibley
Foakes
Ansari
Curran S
Curran T
Burke
Batty
Meaker

Would be my XI - Sibley/Burke combining to be the 6th bowler
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Post by guildfordbat Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 9:55

Olly - I appreciate that's your chosen team and that no selection is without some risk. However, I doubt that Stewart/Di Venuto will see it the same way. I think the risk for them of one of Sibley/Burke being expensive at outset and then having to rely on the other for 7 or 8 overs plus the 4 main bowlers having to each bowl a full allotment of 10 would be too great.

As always, no issue with being shown to be wrong.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 10:00

guildfordbat wrote:Olly - I appreciate that's your chosen team and that no selection is without some risk. However, I doubt that Stewart/Di Venuto will see it the same way. I think the risk for them of one of Sibley/Burke being expensive at outset and then having to rely on the other for 7 or 8 overs plus the 4 main bowlers having to each bowl a full allotment of 10 would be too great.

As always, no issue with being shown to be wrong.

Think you may have misread my team Guildford, got Meaker, the Currans, Batty and Ansari as my main five bowlers with Burke/Sibley as the 6th bowler combined

My reservation with that side is lack of big hitters down the order
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Post by guildfordbat Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 10:33

Whoops! Sorry, Olly - my fault entirely. Scrub my previous post. I read Sibley/Burke as being a 5th bowler combo. Having one or both of them as 6th/7th bowler options provides additional security and makes a lot of sense. Still doesn't mean that Stewie/MDV will go with it though! thumbsup

I agree with you about the lack of big hitters down the order. That's something we've often suffered from in this format. Too regularly, we've seemed in a decent position only to fizzle out in the last dozen overs. The Irish guy O'Brien was signed a season or two back with that purpose but rarely came off.

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Post by James100 Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 10:52

Both Meaker and Pillans playing - no Burke. It'll be interesting to see how Meaker goes, given his reputation as an expensive limited-overs bowler.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 10:52

Surrey win the toss and bat

Side is

Roy
Davies
Sanga
Burns
Wilson
Ansari
Curran S
Curran T
Pillans
Batty
Meaker
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Post by guildfordbat Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 11:01

From 4 onwards, batting looks as if it could be a bit light. Not too surprised by the side (it's what I thought bar Meaks edging out Burke) although I prefer Olly's earlier choice.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 11:09

Surprised they keep picking Burns/Wilson over Foakes in the one day stuff
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 11:38

56-0 off 10, good start for the Rey
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Post by guildfordbat Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 11:44

Thanks for that jinx, Olly, as Davies goes in the 11th!

Decent enough start but we don't want to lose another one now.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 11:47

Of course we then lost Roy and Davies....
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Post by guildfordbat Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 12:03

Going out for a while now. Interesting to see how this plays out.

My man Tredders (I used to be one of the few who stuck up for him on the England threads a year or two back) has started well. We'll probably need to get after the other spinner Cowdrey - beware though, he's one of those ordinary cricketers who often does well against us. Coles is another. And that's without mentioning the real Surrey nemesis - Stevens ....

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Post by jimbobgooner Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 12:19

MORNING ALL Smile

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Post by jimbobgooner Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 12:40

Burns painful innings comes to a end

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Post by jimbobgooner Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 12:48

50 for kumar clap

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 12:53

jimbobgooner wrote:Burns painful innings comes to a end

52 balls for 30 runs - a strike rate of 57 not good enough in modern one day stuff - Wilson under pressure as well to justify his selection over Foakes too
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Post by jimbobgooner Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 12:57

The awful cowdrey gets kumar Doh

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 12:58

Sanga goes taking on Cowdrey for 58... Sad

Now need Wilson to step up
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Post by jimbobgooner Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 13:13

Oh dear olly you won't be happy with that Laugh

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 13:15

Just isn't good enough, I know people on here rate him but I just don't see what Wilson brings to the side to be playing ahead of Foakes - a fine reserve keeper, but shouldn't be near the first xi
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Post by jimbobgooner Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 13:33

191 with 10 overs left

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Post by jimbobgooner Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 13:42

Must be a case for moving baby face to four

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Post by jimbobgooner Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 13:43

Sorry

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Post by jimbobgooner Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 13:51

Need something special in the last 6 overs

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 14:00

A lot of starts but nobody making a match defining score, if we can eek out 250 at least we'll have something to defend - 220 not enough
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Post by jimbobgooner Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 14:05

Another pathetic performance

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Post by jimbobgooner Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 14:20

Innings finishes on 255 at least 50 short on that ground

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 14:21

255-8 off 50

You'd think that's about 30/40 below par, but at least we have a defendable total on the board. Will obviously need to bowl well
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 16:17

Why is Pillans bowling ahead of Meaker? Why is Pillans still playing at this point?
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 16:31

Hey look Meaker has a wicket! Almost like he's a much better bowler than Pillans eh...
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Post by jimbobgooner Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 16:33

Injuries means we have no choice olly unless you prefer Burke Wink

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 16:41

jimbobgooner wrote:Injuries means we have no choice olly unless you prefer Burke Wink

I like Burke but at this point I'd be tempted to play someone like Kapil or Sibley ahead of Pillans - guy must shot of all confidence

Kent now 5 down! No celebrating until Stevens is out tho...
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Post by thegooch7 Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 17:05

Norah gets Stevens! There's only one County that could lose from this position

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 17:20

Kent need 100 off 15 overs with four wickets left. Hmm. Erm So far, Pillans has not done a lot.

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Post by jimbobgooner Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 17:43

Kent playing the extra batsman has seen them home

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 18:13

Kent need 18 off 3 with 2 wickets left
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Post by thegooch7 Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 18:27

Over 50 runs short batting, even fluking ourselves into a winning position at 147-6 did anyone seriously think we'd win?

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Post by SimonofSurrey Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 18:36

Ok, so it's another one wicket defeat but it feels very different from last Monday. We very nearly defended a total that was at least 20 short of what was needed and of what we should have reached being almost 200 with 10 overs to go. No shame in losing to a very good knock from a genuine front line batsman. A five man attack of The Bun, Baby Face, Norah, Son of Boris and Meaker did ok against a side with genuine batting ability right down to 10.

Talking of last Monday, it suddenly doesn't feel so bad when you see what Somerset, with T Groenewald batting at 11, did - again! - today: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/scorecard/ECKO39723

That is serious disappointment for the bowling side!

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Post by kingdaveeagle Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 18:38

Another defeat snatched from the jaws of victory. mad

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Post by jimbobgooner Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 18:41

oh yeah

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 18:50

Plz someone explain why Mat Pillans continues to play to me

I'm sure he's a nice bloke who does his best, but we cannot continue to play with 10 men every game
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Post by jimbobgooner Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 18:57

Need to sort out positions 4 & 5 and drop Pillans

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Post by guildfordbat Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 19:15

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Plz someone explain why Mat Pillans continues to play to me

I'm sure he's a nice bloke who does his best, but we cannot continue to play with 10 men every game

I can't give Olly the explanation he's after and doubt the stats below do either.

In all first XI formats (Championship, t20 and RL50) for Surrey this season, Mat Pillans has bowled 104.2 overs and taken 1 wicket at a cost of 421 runs.

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Sun 5 Jun 2016 - 23:17

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Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Plz someone explain why Mat Pillans continues to play to me

I'm sure he's a nice bloke who does his best, but we cannot continue to play with 10 men every game

I can't give Olly the explanation he's after and doubt the stats below do either.

In all first XI formats (Championship, t20 and RL50) for Surrey this season, Mat Pillans has bowled 104.2 overs and taken 1 wicket at a cost of 421 runs.

Telling that Pillans was trusted to bowl only 3 overs in this match. The dilemma is that it's doubtful whether Burke or Dunn would do much better at the moment, and Dernbach and Footitt are also unavailable.


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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 6 Jun 2016 - 0:45

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Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Plz someone explain why Mat Pillans continues to play to me

I'm sure he's a nice bloke who does his best, but we cannot continue to play with 10 men every game

I can't give Olly the explanation he's after and doubt the stats below do either.

In all first XI formats (Championship, t20 and RL50) for Surrey this season, Mat Pillans has bowled 104.2 overs and taken 1 wicket at a cost of 421 runs.

Telling that Pillans was trusted to bowl only 3 overs in this match.  The dilemma is that it's doubtful whether Burke or Dunn would do much better at the moment, and Dernbach and Footitt are also unavailable.

 

My argument would be that we could strengthen the batting with Sibley - who if needed could bowl 3/4 overs
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