The World League II

by Marky Thu 18 Feb 2016, 10:47 am

First topic message reminder :

Rules;
£150m budget with to be spent on anybody based on their value on TM.
Draft system to build the squads.
Squad to be between 20-25 players, no more, no less.
Tactics short, teamsheet, substitutes, 100 words of tactics, few sentences for substitutions.
Everybody votes or lose a goal from their score, just scores and scorers acceptable although feedback is encouraged.
Choose your own real life team name although this will have no bearing on the players you can or can't sign.

Participants;
Azzy - Vancouver Whitecaps
BamBam - Ebbsfleet United
Holymiky - MK Dons
Marky - Crawley Town
Nadeem - Real Madrid
Olly - Accrington Stanley
Trebs - Liaoning Whowin
Viva - Manchester United
Hero - Macclesfield Town
Nando - Chesham United

Structure;

8 fixtures per team, 4 at home, 4 away. Two relegated from the Premier League, two promoted from the Championship.
3rd place in both leagues will playoff for the right to play in the Premier League.
Starting point determined at random.

Premier League
1. Chesham United
2. Liaoning Whowin
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3. Macclesfield Town
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4. Manchester United
5. MK Dons

Championship
1. Accrington Stanley
2. Crawley Town
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3. Ebbsfleet United
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4. Real Madrid
5. Vancouver Whitecaps

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/detailsuche/spielerdetail/suche

Draft results

Marky:

Holymiky:

BamBam:

Fernando:

Nadeem:

Azzy:

Olly:

Hero:

Trebs:

Viva:

by Fernando Thu 18 Feb 2016, 8:34 pm

#OperationGetMoPoShouldBeInProgress

#OperationGetMaureenSpendUnnecessaryMoneyAndBeInTheSamePositionIn2020IsInProgress

by GSC Thu 18 Feb 2016, 8:36 pm

Why would Pochettino leave Spurs for United?

by Fernando Thu 18 Feb 2016, 8:37 pm

Same reason every other manager leaves Spurs. You know as a Spurs manager that Daniel Levy will sell your best players for ridiculous amounts then pocket most of it into their new stadium.

by **Hero** Thu 18 Feb 2016, 8:50 pm

GSC wrote:Why would Pochettino leave Spurs for United?

Why did he leave Southampton for Spurs at the time?

Spurs will most certainly finish above Utd, 1 season of that though does not suddenly make Spurs a bigger club.

by nadeem2099 Thu 18 Feb 2016, 9:03 pm

Manchester United are a joke nowadays. LVG is a bigger joke.

by nadeem2099 Thu 18 Feb 2016, 9:13 pm

The only good thing to come from tonight's game for United was the excellent MOTM performance by Donald Love. I'm telling you now guys, this time next year he'll be England first choice right back and a staple of United's starting lineup.

by **Afro** Thu 18 Feb 2016, 9:15 pm

Spurs definitely looked like a better option than Southampton to win things.

You would not say that about United. Exact opposite in fact. Spurs look like they are going places, United look a mess.

by GSC Thu 18 Feb 2016, 9:15 pm

I wouldn't risk my reputation if I were a young manager at United.

Something is badly out of whack at present. Both Moyes and LVG have been abject failures.

by **Afro** Thu 18 Feb 2016, 9:24 pm

Ditto. 2 years ago, if I was a player or a manager, I'd have definitely jumped at the chance of going to United from Spurs.

Now I wouldn't consider it. I'd stick with spurs

by nadeem2099 Thu 18 Feb 2016, 9:28 pm

Afro old chap what do you make of my team?

Buffon
Vidal Smalling Huth Chiellini Schlupp
Kouyate Pereyra
Deulofeu Aguero Montero

by BamBam Thu 18 Feb 2016, 9:30 pm

nadeem2099 wrote:Afro old chap what do you make of my team?

Buffon
Vidal Smalling Huth Chiellini Schlupp
Kouyate Pereyra
Deulofeu Aguero Montero

I'll be your bestest friend if you play that midfield against me

by GSC Thu 18 Feb 2016, 9:30 pm

Aguero is great. Seems kinda lightweight outside of him.

by nadeem2099 Thu 18 Feb 2016, 9:35 pm

Yeah I splashed out too much for Aguero which left me short on cash for the rest of the squad.

Bambino you may take the urine out of my midfield but my impenetrable defensive wall of justice will shut you out!

by FIFA Diva Thu 18 Feb 2016, 9:36 pm

Pochettino is building something at Spurs why would he join United and restart.

Our only option is Mourinho, we can't afford to slip any further behind City. No champions league in 2 out of 3 years is terrible.

by **Hero** Thu 18 Feb 2016, 9:36 pm

Spurs do look a better option to win things, Utd though are Utd, and their appeal is still different to pretty much any club in England, that's not me saying it as a Utd fan as I don't wear the rose tinted glasses that Viva does but Utd are still despite their current doldrums a global entity, the fact that next season they'll go back to being the most profitable in the world despite their poor club form speaks volumes.

It's a mute point though about Poc as Maureen is pretty much signed and sealed.

by Fernando Thu 18 Feb 2016, 9:38 pm

He may be building something at Spurs but in the next few years it's going to come to a grinding holt whilst they build a stadium.

I look forward to Maureen ruining United after his usual 3 year spell. He's no different from LVG football wise.

by Holymiky Fri 19 Feb 2016, 8:44 am

Morning all,

Friday discussion, who is the best striker in the world? I'm talking out and out strikers.

by nadeem2099 Fri 19 Feb 2016, 9:00 am

IMHO Aguero is the best closely followed by Lewandowski and then Benzema.

by BamBam Fri 19 Feb 2016, 9:03 am

Suarez
Aguero
Lewandowski

by FIFA Diva Fri 19 Feb 2016, 9:04 am

Morning Big Miky.

For me and I hate to say it because the guy makes my blood boil but it's Suarez closely followed by Lewondowski and then Aguero.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Fri 19 Feb 2016, 9:31 am

Suarez and it's not even close

by Azzy Fri 19 Feb 2016, 9:37 am

Holymiky wrote:Morning all,

Friday discussion, who is the best striker in the world? I'm talking out and out strikers.

If Messi and Ronaldo don't count as out and out strikers, then it's a call between Aguero, Lewandowski, Suarez, Rondon and Crespo. I'll go with Crespo.

by Holymiky Fri 19 Feb 2016, 9:46 am

I would have Aguero, Suarez and Lewandowski in the top 3 for sure.

When it comes down to order I'm not sure, i would be tempted to put Lewandowski top but I know that Aguero and Suarez have done it in the premier league which you can argue has better quality overall in it than the German league although the German league is still quality but yeah not sure.

by Trebs Fri 19 Feb 2016, 10:05 am

Suarez
Cavani
Aguero
Lewandowski

by **Hero** Fri 19 Feb 2016, 10:34 am

Trebs wrote:Suarez
Cavani
Aguero
Lewandowski

by Azzy Fri 19 Feb 2016, 11:01 am

Lewandowski nearly signed for Blackburn once, he can't be THAT good.

by Holymiky Fri 19 Feb 2016, 11:11 am

Blackburn did win the Premier League to be fair.

Also Lewandowski is THAT good now mate.

by BamBam Fri 19 Feb 2016, 11:13 am

What still needs to be decided?

Lawyers, bonuses, timeline for tactics and votes etc?

Keen to get going!

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Fri 19 Feb 2016, 11:23 am

Azzy wrote:Lewandowski nearly signed for Blackburn once, he can't be THAT good.

We nearly signed Toby Alderweireld once - boy did he make the right career choice rejecting us!

by **Hero** Fri 19 Feb 2016, 11:52 am

My top five 'strikers' this season

1. Suarez
2. Higuain
3. Jonas
4. Aubameyang
5. Vardy

by GSC Fri 19 Feb 2016, 12:30 pm

BamBam wrote:What still needs to be decided?

Lawyers, bonuses, timeline for tactics and votes etc?

Keen to get going!

3 lawyers a week, take the Euro value.
1m received each week, 1.5m extra for doing results or tactics.

Id do squads locked at the end of Friday, Tactics due end of Monday.
?

by Azzy Fri 19 Feb 2016, 12:36 pm

Agreed.

by **Hero** Fri 19 Feb 2016, 12:44 pm

I'm not a fan of locking squads personally.

by Holymiky Fri 19 Feb 2016, 12:44 pm

Sounds good to me.

by **Hero** Fri 19 Feb 2016, 12:46 pm

(Mainly due to my ineptitude to spot who I have injured that week and then find out past the cut off I don't have a keeper)

by GSC Fri 19 Feb 2016, 12:46 pm

I consider a soft lock so you can write your tactics without your opponent doing last minute deals.

Can still do deals but can't play new players that week.

by Holymiky Fri 19 Feb 2016, 1:05 pm

GSC wrote:I consider a soft lock so you can write your tactics without your opponent doing last minute deals.

Can still do deals but can't play new players that week.

I think this is what we should go with, make it clear from the start so that we know people can't use players for matches they sign on the same day however they can still sign players.

by Trebs Fri 19 Feb 2016, 1:20 pm

What do you guys consider the best XI in the league? I won't include my own players so Cavani, Silva, Lahm, Blind and Toure won't be in there Whistle

Cech
Bellerin Smalling Laporte Chiellini
Robben Pogba Verratti Martial
Aguero Lewandowski

by Azzy Fri 19 Feb 2016, 1:56 pm

Are we doing that badly for defenders that Bellerin, Smalling and Chiellini are in there? And Robben doesn't belong there either. Mahrez ahead of Robben, bring in Ginter, Koscielny and Cresswell.

by **Hero** Fri 19 Feb 2016, 2:05 pm

Interesting to see there's a nearly list on the 23 under 23 group that includes a few guys in the league:

http://www.squawka.com/news/23-under-23-the-nearly-men-who-didnt-quite-make-the-cut-in-2016/589617

by Holymiky Fri 19 Feb 2016, 2:18 pm

Azzy wrote:Are we doing that badly for defenders that Bellerin, Smalling and Chiellini are in there? And Robben doesn't belong there either. Mahrez ahead of Robben, bring in Ginter, Koscielny and Cresswell.

If we go by the "current form" rule though, Smalling should really be in there shouldn't he?

by **Afro** Fri 19 Feb 2016, 2:19 pm

Totally impartial, I would go....

Buffon
Bellerin---Silva---Laporte---Lahm
Robben---Pogba---Verratti---Nolito
Aguero---Lewandowski

by **Afro** Fri 19 Feb 2016, 2:20 pm

Really struggled for the second full back and left winger though TBH.

by BamBam Fri 19 Feb 2016, 2:23 pm

Holymiky wrote:
Azzy wrote:Are we doing that badly for defenders that Bellerin, Smalling and Chiellini are in there? And Robben doesn't belong there either. Mahrez ahead of Robben, bring in Ginter, Koscielny and Cresswell.

If we go by the "current form" rule though, Smalling should really be in there shouldn't he?

Smalling has fallen off since he got injured, before that was brilliant though

by FIFA Diva Fri 19 Feb 2016, 2:27 pm

Afro wrote:Totally impartial, I would go....

Buffon
Bellerin---Silva---Laporte---Lahm
Robben---Pogba---Verratti---Nolito
Aguero---Lewandowski

by **Afro** Fri 19 Feb 2016, 2:43 pm

FIFA Diva wrote:
Afro wrote:Totally impartial, I would go....

Buffon
Bellerin---Silva---Laporte---Lahm
Robben---Pogba---Verratti---Nolito
Aguero---Lewandowski

Laporte is a tremendous defender and for me Robben is one of those players that is so much better than the rest, even injuries don't bring him down to the rest. Especially not 1 season wonders!

by Holymiky Fri 19 Feb 2016, 2:45 pm

I'm glad 2 of my players are in your selection Afro, Nolito and Verratti.

by **Afro** Fri 19 Feb 2016, 2:56 pm

Verratti and Pogba were no brainers.

I'll be honest on Nolito, whilst I like him he shouldn't really be in a best xi. Just the choice was not great.

by FIFA Diva Fri 19 Feb 2016, 3:03 pm

I don't rate Smalling as high as others do, the defensive system under LVG makes Smalling look better then he actually is.

The few times we've played a more attacking style Smalling has been exposed for the fraud he is, I don't know why people call him Smalldini such a disgrace. He is no better than Cahill or Jagielka. Lack of top level defenders has made people crazy and over rate the likes of Smalling.

Kos is supposed to be the best CB in the Prem, when I compare him to the likes of Terry, Ferdinand, Campbell he is no where near them. I even rate Carragher higher than him.

The art of defending has died and as a former defender it makes me sad. Sad

by GSC Fri 19 Feb 2016, 3:10 pm

Premier League teams in general are more attacking than they used to be

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