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Nunn! Best I've faced!
by AdamT Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:34 pm
Two-division titleholder, pound-for-pound entrant, boxing superstar, heir-apparent to Sugar Ray Leonard and maximum security prisoner.
His introduction is a shocking paradox but that is life so far for the gifted but flawed Michael “Second To” Nunn. Sentenced to 24 years and four months for drug conspiracy charges in 2004, the 52-year-old ex-champion is currently serving his time at the Hazelton Federal Correctional Institution in Bruceton Mills, W.V.
Now a Muslim-convert and vegetarian, Nunn made poor decisions in his past life and has paid a heavy price for being involved in the purchase of one kilogram of cocaine in Aug. 2002. His sentence was initially due to end in 2028 but new protocol has brought that release date forward to Dec. 2019.
The Davenport, Iowa, native believes he has paid his debt to society and hopes to be released sooner.
As dismal as Nunn’s circumstances may be at present, there is no denying his glorious achievements in the prize ring. The glitzy American was the first product of Ten Goose Boxing, honing his skills under the tutelage of acclaimed coach Joe Goossen. Following a messy split, Nunn would also work with Angelo Dundee but always credited his association with the Goossen family as making him the fighter he became.
In July 1988, Nunn wrenched the IBF middleweight title from Frank Tate via ninth round stoppage. The win solidified his status as one of the finest fighters in the world and, at 25 years old, with 31 straight wins, he was entering his prime years. In his first defense, the future of the 160-pound division would chew up fierce Argentinian power-puncher Juan Domingo Roldan in eight but what came next sent shockwaves through the sport.
Nunn & Kalambay in 1989. Photo: Ring Archive
Sumbu Kalambay was born in Zaire, Africa and resided in Italy. He was a master technician and, as WBA middleweight titleholder, carried serious momentum with consecutive victories over Herol Graham, Iran Barkley, Mike McCallum, Robbie Sims and Doug DeWitt. The famous unanimous decision win over McCallum in March 1988, later avenged by “The Body Snatcher”, is arguably one of the finest demonstrations of pure boxing in the modern era.
Unfortunately, the WBA would strip Kalambay of his title for agreeing to face Nunn but boxing politics could not disguise the obvious. Staged inside the Hilton Hotel in Las Vegas, on March 25, 1989, this was a high-stakes meeting between the two best middleweights in the world. Not one person in attendance could have imagined that the glistening gold bell at ringside would only be struck once.
Nunn carried the swagger of a champion sparring a novice; casually warming up his limbs by shaking them nonchalantly as he pursued the target. With just over a minute gone, Kalambay released a left jab which was deflected effortlessly and caught a pulverizing left hook to the jaw which knocked him out before he hit the canvas. This amazing victory was both a blessing and a ruin for Nunn, as projected big-money showdowns with fading legends Sugar Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran and Thomas Hearns appeared to vanish as quickly as Kalambay did.
The electrifying finish was voted THE RING Knockout of the Year and it was the pinnacle of Nunn’s professional life. A brace of majority decision wins over Iran Barkley and Marlon Starling was followed by a 10th-round knockout of former pound-for-pound No. 1 Donald Curry; however, a new middleweight force was about to burst the unbeaten champion’s bubble.
James Toney, a boisterous 22-year-old, fighting out of Ann Arbor, MI, fell way behind against Nunn in May 1991. Taking into account the impeccable career “Lights Out” would go on to have, it seems almost unimaginable that he could be made to look foolish at his peak but that was the story in Nunn’s hometown of Davenport. Toney rallied, however, and displaying the durability and cunning that would later become hallmarks, floored the champion with a huge left hand in Round 11. Nunn rose but was in no position to defend himself when referee Dennis Nelson halted the bout.
Despite annexing the WBA super middleweight title from Victor Cordoba in Sept. 1992, the Toney loss appeared to permanently remove some of Nunn’s sparkle. Surprising defeats to Steve Little and Frankie Liles ended his world title ambitions at 168 pounds and a split decision loss to Graciano Rocchigiani, in a vacant WBC light heavyweight title contest, was his last shot at a legitimate championship.
His final bout, before fate and poor choices would irreparably change his life, was a cruiserweight appearance in Jan. 2002.
At his best, Nunn was a swanky and sophisticated stylist with crisp hitting power and opponents frequently had more chance of hitting the lottery than the target. If the 6-foot-2 southpaw performed below par, then he came under the same type of scrutiny that befell the great Pernell Whitaker. Like Whitaker, Nunn was capable of sucking the drama out of a fight but there was no denying his exceptional skill-set.
The former two-division titlist agreed to speak to RingTV.com, via email, about the best opponents he faced in 10 key categories.
BEST SKILLS – Donald Curry: He was wise and sharp. This is a tough one because I came across a lot of good boxers on the way up the ladder.
BEST JAB – Frank Tate: He had a great jab, so I had to stay on top of him from the first round. I won the middleweight championship of the world after a long, hard fight.
BEST DEFENSE – Marlon Starling: To this day, Starling is still asking for a rematch. He was a crafty little man, who was hard to catch cleanly with big shots.
BEST CHIN – lran Barkley: You could hit the guy with a hammer and he was going nowhere. I landed everything I had and he said, ‘Is that all you’ve got, Nunn?’
BEST PUNCHER – Juan Roldan: He was the strongest puncher I faced in my career.
FASTEST HANDS – Carl Jones: He was from Los Angeles and had me down in the first round.
FASTEST FEET – Jones: The only thing faster than Jones’ feet were his hands.
SMARTEST – James Toney: I have to admit, looking back, James Toney was a smart guy in the ring.
STRONGEST – Barkley: For a middleweight, Barkley was exceptionally strong. It was like pounding on a heavyweight. After the weigh-in, he must have gained an extra 20 pounds.
BEST OVERALL – Curry: The best overall game belonged to Donald Curry. He could do a bit of everything.
His introduction is a shocking paradox but that is life so far for the gifted but flawed Michael “Second To” Nunn. Sentenced to 24 years and four months for drug conspiracy charges in 2004, the 52-year-old ex-champion is currently serving his time at the Hazelton Federal Correctional Institution in Bruceton Mills, W.V.
Now a Muslim-convert and vegetarian, Nunn made poor decisions in his past life and has paid a heavy price for being involved in the purchase of one kilogram of cocaine in Aug. 2002. His sentence was initially due to end in 2028 but new protocol has brought that release date forward to Dec. 2019.
The Davenport, Iowa, native believes he has paid his debt to society and hopes to be released sooner.
As dismal as Nunn’s circumstances may be at present, there is no denying his glorious achievements in the prize ring. The glitzy American was the first product of Ten Goose Boxing, honing his skills under the tutelage of acclaimed coach Joe Goossen. Following a messy split, Nunn would also work with Angelo Dundee but always credited his association with the Goossen family as making him the fighter he became.
In July 1988, Nunn wrenched the IBF middleweight title from Frank Tate via ninth round stoppage. The win solidified his status as one of the finest fighters in the world and, at 25 years old, with 31 straight wins, he was entering his prime years. In his first defense, the future of the 160-pound division would chew up fierce Argentinian power-puncher Juan Domingo Roldan in eight but what came next sent shockwaves through the sport.
Nunn & Kalambay in 1989. Photo: Ring Archive
Sumbu Kalambay was born in Zaire, Africa and resided in Italy. He was a master technician and, as WBA middleweight titleholder, carried serious momentum with consecutive victories over Herol Graham, Iran Barkley, Mike McCallum, Robbie Sims and Doug DeWitt. The famous unanimous decision win over McCallum in March 1988, later avenged by “The Body Snatcher”, is arguably one of the finest demonstrations of pure boxing in the modern era.
Unfortunately, the WBA would strip Kalambay of his title for agreeing to face Nunn but boxing politics could not disguise the obvious. Staged inside the Hilton Hotel in Las Vegas, on March 25, 1989, this was a high-stakes meeting between the two best middleweights in the world. Not one person in attendance could have imagined that the glistening gold bell at ringside would only be struck once.
Nunn carried the swagger of a champion sparring a novice; casually warming up his limbs by shaking them nonchalantly as he pursued the target. With just over a minute gone, Kalambay released a left jab which was deflected effortlessly and caught a pulverizing left hook to the jaw which knocked him out before he hit the canvas. This amazing victory was both a blessing and a ruin for Nunn, as projected big-money showdowns with fading legends Sugar Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran and Thomas Hearns appeared to vanish as quickly as Kalambay did.
The electrifying finish was voted THE RING Knockout of the Year and it was the pinnacle of Nunn’s professional life. A brace of majority decision wins over Iran Barkley and Marlon Starling was followed by a 10th-round knockout of former pound-for-pound No. 1 Donald Curry; however, a new middleweight force was about to burst the unbeaten champion’s bubble.
James Toney, a boisterous 22-year-old, fighting out of Ann Arbor, MI, fell way behind against Nunn in May 1991. Taking into account the impeccable career “Lights Out” would go on to have, it seems almost unimaginable that he could be made to look foolish at his peak but that was the story in Nunn’s hometown of Davenport. Toney rallied, however, and displaying the durability and cunning that would later become hallmarks, floored the champion with a huge left hand in Round 11. Nunn rose but was in no position to defend himself when referee Dennis Nelson halted the bout.
Despite annexing the WBA super middleweight title from Victor Cordoba in Sept. 1992, the Toney loss appeared to permanently remove some of Nunn’s sparkle. Surprising defeats to Steve Little and Frankie Liles ended his world title ambitions at 168 pounds and a split decision loss to Graciano Rocchigiani, in a vacant WBC light heavyweight title contest, was his last shot at a legitimate championship.
His final bout, before fate and poor choices would irreparably change his life, was a cruiserweight appearance in Jan. 2002.
At his best, Nunn was a swanky and sophisticated stylist with crisp hitting power and opponents frequently had more chance of hitting the lottery than the target. If the 6-foot-2 southpaw performed below par, then he came under the same type of scrutiny that befell the great Pernell Whitaker. Like Whitaker, Nunn was capable of sucking the drama out of a fight but there was no denying his exceptional skill-set.
The former two-division titlist agreed to speak to RingTV.com, via email, about the best opponents he faced in 10 key categories.
BEST SKILLS – Donald Curry: He was wise and sharp. This is a tough one because I came across a lot of good boxers on the way up the ladder.
BEST JAB – Frank Tate: He had a great jab, so I had to stay on top of him from the first round. I won the middleweight championship of the world after a long, hard fight.
BEST DEFENSE – Marlon Starling: To this day, Starling is still asking for a rematch. He was a crafty little man, who was hard to catch cleanly with big shots.
BEST CHIN – lran Barkley: You could hit the guy with a hammer and he was going nowhere. I landed everything I had and he said, ‘Is that all you’ve got, Nunn?’
BEST PUNCHER – Juan Roldan: He was the strongest puncher I faced in my career.
FASTEST HANDS – Carl Jones: He was from Los Angeles and had me down in the first round.
FASTEST FEET – Jones: The only thing faster than Jones’ feet were his hands.
SMARTEST – James Toney: I have to admit, looking back, James Toney was a smart guy in the ring.
STRONGEST – Barkley: For a middleweight, Barkley was exceptionally strong. It was like pounding on a heavyweight. After the weigh-in, he must have gained an extra 20 pounds.
BEST OVERALL – Curry: The best overall game belonged to Donald Curry. He could do a bit of everything.
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Re: Nunn! Best I've faced!
by hazharrison Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:41 pm
You have an interest in Nunn Adam? Amazing considering you only started watching boxing after he'd retired. Amazing.....
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Re: Nunn! Best I've faced!
by AdamT Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:45 pm
I watch a lot of older fighters. Duran is my favourite!
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Re: Nunn! Best I've faced!
by AdamT Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:46 pm
It has been 10 years since Jose Luis Castillo battled Diego Corrales in their classic first encounter. The lightweight beltholders waged war, fighting each other to a standstill for 10 brutally frenetic rounds before the most dramatic of conclusions to a bout that is considered one of the greatest of all time.
Both Castillo and Corrales had aggressive boxing styles, were big for lightweights and known to have fight-ending power, so the fight was well received by the fight public. However, nobody knew just how well.
From the very beginning each went at the other. As the rounds passed the action ramped up to another level, and after a fantastic ninth innings, the legendary 10th took place. Midway through Round 10, Castillo broke through, dropping Corrales with a left hook in the center of the ring. The game Californian rose on unsteady legs as the end looked imminent. A second knockdown took place, this time “Chico” spat his gumshield out to buy precious time. Referee Tony Weeks took a point from Corrales but let the fight continue. Then, out of nowhere, Corrales landed a monster left hand that visibly moved Castillo towards the ropes.
He followed with a combination that had Castillo out on his feet, head rocked backwards, eyes rolling to the back of his head, forcing the referee jumped in to halt the bout. It was a fight ending akin to a real life Rocky movie.
Looking back on the fight, Castillo isn’t bitter. He’s proud to have been involved in a historic fight. “I made it an attractive fight and exciting fight with Corrales to please the people,” Castillo told RingTV.com through translator Abraham Darwish. “After that fight I was still satisfied even though I lost because I won a lot of fans after that fight.”
Promoter Bob Arum CEO of Top Rank, who has been around boxing since the 1960s, ranked it among the top three fights he’s seen along with the Muhammad Ali-Joe Frazier rubber match and Marvin Hagler-Thomas Hearns.
“People understand this is something special,” the hall of fame promoter said. “Books will be written about this one.”
The two met five months later, this time each struggled mercilessly to make the 135-pound limit, Corrales just made it but Castillo was two pounds over. He never made the weight. This time, Castillo exacted a measure of revenge stopping Corrales in four rounds. Neither fighter was ever to really the same following that brutal, fight of the ages in May 2005.
Castillo now 41, continues to fight, losing his most recent fight against Ruslan Provodnikov last November. Corrales tragically passed away in a motorbike accident two years to the day removed from the first meeting with Castillo.
Early in his career Castillo worked with his legendary countryman Julio Cesar Chavez Sr., learning how important it is to work hard. He says nobody worked harder than the Lion of Culiacan. That experience cleared served him well.
As Castillo made his way through the tough Mexican scene he lost on four occasions when he challenged for the national title. Undeterred, he continued his progress when in September 2000, as a rank outsider, he surprised Steve Johnston winning ta majority decision to claim the WBC 135-pound title. The victory earned him THE RING magazine ‘Upset of the Year’ award.
He went on to retain the title three times, including a draw with Johnston in the former champion’s hometown.
In April 2002, Castillo looked to defend his title against Floyd Mayweather Jr., who had risen to lightweight from junior lightweight. Many believed at the end of 12 rounds that Castillo had done enough to beat the unbeaten rising star. However, the judges all voted for Mayweather. The rematch took place eight months later, this time Mayweather had the better of things winning a clear decision.
The Mexicali native says his proudest moment was winning the world title and that his best win was when he regained his WBC lightweight title against Juan Lazcano on the undercard of Oscar De La Hoya-Felix Sturm in June 2004.
“During the press conference, he was talking a lot of s__t…and I really developed a hate feeling toward him and wanted to hurt him,” reminisced Castillo. “But Lazcano turned out to be a lot tougher than I expected. To win the fight and to become world champion was quite satisfying.”
Castillo bested Olympic gold medalist and two-weight world champion Joel Casamayor and stopped Julio Diaz in 10 rounds before the legendary fight with Corrales.
Castillo would lose to Ricky Hatton at junior welterweight in the summer of 2007 in what is viewed as his last significant fight at the top level. Castillo (66-13-1, 57 knockouts) graciously agreed to speak with RingTV.com about the best fighters he fought during his 80-fight career that has spanned 25 years.
BEST SKILLS
Photo by John Gurzinski/AFP-Getty Images
Floyd Mayweather Jr.: The best skills were none other than Floyd Mayweather Jr. He kept me at distance so I really couldn’t get to him.
BEST JAB
Mayweather: Floyd again, his jab was long and it was fast.
BEST DEFENSE
Mayweather: I couldn’t hit Floyd clean… so he had the best defense also.
BEST CHIN
Mayweather: Floyd Mayweather Jr. had the best chin because I couldn’t hit him.
BEST PUNCHER
Juan Lazcano: Juan Lazcano had a very hard punch.
FASTEST HANDS
Mayweather: Floyd Mayweather Jr. had the fastest hands.
FASTEST FEET
Mayweather: Because he moved a lot during his fight with me… and really couldn’t set to punch away.
SMARTEST
Mayweather: Because he changed his style when he needed too.
STRONGEST
Lazcano: Juan Lazcano was the toughest fighter I ever faced. He was just a strong fighter.
BEST OVERALL
Mayweather: Floyd is best overall. For all the attributes I just mentioned
Both Castillo and Corrales had aggressive boxing styles, were big for lightweights and known to have fight-ending power, so the fight was well received by the fight public. However, nobody knew just how well.
From the very beginning each went at the other. As the rounds passed the action ramped up to another level, and after a fantastic ninth innings, the legendary 10th took place. Midway through Round 10, Castillo broke through, dropping Corrales with a left hook in the center of the ring. The game Californian rose on unsteady legs as the end looked imminent. A second knockdown took place, this time “Chico” spat his gumshield out to buy precious time. Referee Tony Weeks took a point from Corrales but let the fight continue. Then, out of nowhere, Corrales landed a monster left hand that visibly moved Castillo towards the ropes.
He followed with a combination that had Castillo out on his feet, head rocked backwards, eyes rolling to the back of his head, forcing the referee jumped in to halt the bout. It was a fight ending akin to a real life Rocky movie.
Looking back on the fight, Castillo isn’t bitter. He’s proud to have been involved in a historic fight. “I made it an attractive fight and exciting fight with Corrales to please the people,” Castillo told RingTV.com through translator Abraham Darwish. “After that fight I was still satisfied even though I lost because I won a lot of fans after that fight.”
Promoter Bob Arum CEO of Top Rank, who has been around boxing since the 1960s, ranked it among the top three fights he’s seen along with the Muhammad Ali-Joe Frazier rubber match and Marvin Hagler-Thomas Hearns.
“People understand this is something special,” the hall of fame promoter said. “Books will be written about this one.”
The two met five months later, this time each struggled mercilessly to make the 135-pound limit, Corrales just made it but Castillo was two pounds over. He never made the weight. This time, Castillo exacted a measure of revenge stopping Corrales in four rounds. Neither fighter was ever to really the same following that brutal, fight of the ages in May 2005.
Castillo now 41, continues to fight, losing his most recent fight against Ruslan Provodnikov last November. Corrales tragically passed away in a motorbike accident two years to the day removed from the first meeting with Castillo.
Early in his career Castillo worked with his legendary countryman Julio Cesar Chavez Sr., learning how important it is to work hard. He says nobody worked harder than the Lion of Culiacan. That experience cleared served him well.
As Castillo made his way through the tough Mexican scene he lost on four occasions when he challenged for the national title. Undeterred, he continued his progress when in September 2000, as a rank outsider, he surprised Steve Johnston winning ta majority decision to claim the WBC 135-pound title. The victory earned him THE RING magazine ‘Upset of the Year’ award.
He went on to retain the title three times, including a draw with Johnston in the former champion’s hometown.
In April 2002, Castillo looked to defend his title against Floyd Mayweather Jr., who had risen to lightweight from junior lightweight. Many believed at the end of 12 rounds that Castillo had done enough to beat the unbeaten rising star. However, the judges all voted for Mayweather. The rematch took place eight months later, this time Mayweather had the better of things winning a clear decision.
The Mexicali native says his proudest moment was winning the world title and that his best win was when he regained his WBC lightweight title against Juan Lazcano on the undercard of Oscar De La Hoya-Felix Sturm in June 2004.
“During the press conference, he was talking a lot of s__t…and I really developed a hate feeling toward him and wanted to hurt him,” reminisced Castillo. “But Lazcano turned out to be a lot tougher than I expected. To win the fight and to become world champion was quite satisfying.”
Castillo bested Olympic gold medalist and two-weight world champion Joel Casamayor and stopped Julio Diaz in 10 rounds before the legendary fight with Corrales.
Castillo would lose to Ricky Hatton at junior welterweight in the summer of 2007 in what is viewed as his last significant fight at the top level. Castillo (66-13-1, 57 knockouts) graciously agreed to speak with RingTV.com about the best fighters he fought during his 80-fight career that has spanned 25 years.
BEST SKILLS
Photo by John Gurzinski/AFP-Getty Images
Floyd Mayweather Jr.: The best skills were none other than Floyd Mayweather Jr. He kept me at distance so I really couldn’t get to him.
BEST JAB
Mayweather: Floyd again, his jab was long and it was fast.
BEST DEFENSE
Mayweather: I couldn’t hit Floyd clean… so he had the best defense also.
BEST CHIN
Mayweather: Floyd Mayweather Jr. had the best chin because I couldn’t hit him.
BEST PUNCHER
Juan Lazcano: Juan Lazcano had a very hard punch.
FASTEST HANDS
Mayweather: Floyd Mayweather Jr. had the fastest hands.
FASTEST FEET
Mayweather: Because he moved a lot during his fight with me… and really couldn’t set to punch away.
SMARTEST
Mayweather: Because he changed his style when he needed too.
STRONGEST
Lazcano: Juan Lazcano was the toughest fighter I ever faced. He was just a strong fighter.
BEST OVERALL
Mayweather: Floyd is best overall. For all the attributes I just mentioned
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Re: Nunn! Best I've faced!
by hazharrison Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:47 pm
AdamT wrote:I watch a lot of older fighters. Duran is my favourite!
Sure he is.....
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Re: Nunn! Best I've faced!
by AdamT Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:47 pm
Duran is my favourite fighter. I think I have mentioned it a number of times!
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Re: Nunn! Best I've faced!
by superflyweight Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:48 pm
What are your views on Holyfield's triple jab Adam?
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Re: Nunn! Best I've faced!
by AdamT Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:48 pm
Pacquiao would lose by a sixth-round knockout. Photo by Chris Farina/Top Rank.
Manny Pacquiao burst onto the world boxing scene more than a decade ago, capturing the fans’ imagination with an intoxicating blend of speed and power that left many opponents in a heap on the canvas.
All told, Pacquiao has won 10 world titles in a record eight weight classes – four of them as lineal champion.
His first was the WBC flyweight belt, which he won in Thailand just two weeks before his 20th birthday in 1998. He lost the title in his second defense in part because of weight problems, but resurfaced at junior featherweight. It changed his life and boxing.
In his stunning breakout performance, Pacquiao won the IBF title by stopping rising star Lehlo Ledwaba in eight rounds on the Oscar De La Hoya-Javier Castillejo card at the MGM Grand in 2001.
Pacquiao became a true crossover star with his compelling nine-fight series against the great Mexican trio of Marco Antonio Barrera (2-0), Erik Morales (2-1) and archrival Juan Manuel Marquez (2-1-1).
Pacquiao also boasts impressive wins over many other big-name opponents, including David Diaz, De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton, Miguel Cotto, Joshua Clottey, Antonio Margarito, Shane Mosley, Brandon Rios and Tim Bradley.
The past few years have been challenging for Pacquiao. He lost a controversial split decision to Bradley in June 2012 – his first setback since 2005 – and suffered a one-punch knockout against Marquez six months later.
However, Pacquiao bounced back with three wins – Rios, Bradley in their rematch and then Chris Algieri – to dismiss any notion that he was finished as an elite fighter. His newfound momentum set up the showdown with Floyd Mayweather Jr. on May 2.
Pacquiao is currently 14-2-2, with eight knockouts, in world-title fights.
One thing that can’t be quantified, though, is the proud Filipino’s profound connection with his people.
“Bringing glory to my country and my people with each victory renews my pride in my Filipino heritage,” Pacquiao told THE RING. “Moving up two weight divisions to beat Oscar De La Hoya and being named Fighter of the Decade by the BWAA are my next proudest accomplishments.”
Pacquiao is very busy outside of boxing. He has five children with his wife, Jinkee. He also is a congressman for the Sarangani district and a reserve officer in the Armed Forces of the Philippines. He has appeared in several movies, is a recorded singer and is player/coach of a pro basketball team in his home country.
He graciously agreed to speak to THE RING about the best he has faced in 10 key categories.
BEST JAB
Oscar De La Hoya: His jab is a tactical weapon. It can set up a punch or act as a weapon.
BEST PUNCHER
Miguel Cotto: I can still feel some of those punches he threw at me. Staying on the ropes is not the best place to be when you are fighting him. He’s also accurate. He’s incredible.
FASTEST HANDS
Lehlo Ledwaba: His hands were blazing.
FASTEST FEET
De La Hoya: He moves so quickly and effortlessly. He is a complete athlete.
SMARTEST
Cotto: It was hard to bait him. He has seen it all. I really had to out-hustle him. He made me work.
BEST CHIN
Antonio Margarito: That fight was a war. It was brutal. I threw everything at him and he not only took it but came back for more. Incredible.
STRONGEST
Margarito: Big and strong is an understatement. His body shots hurt me several times throughout our fight.
BEST DEFENSE
Joshua Clottey: And not for a good reason, at least for the fans.
BEST SKILL SET
Juan Manuel Marquez: He is the only fighter who really could figure me out and anticipate my moves. He is a brilliant counterpuncher and a tremendous warrior.
BEST OVERALL
Several: I cannot specify one. Oscar De La Hoya, Miguel Cotto, Marco Antonio Barrera, Juan Manuel Marquez and Erik Morales all had tremendous skills. They commanded respect because they were all multi-dimensional. I had to be on my toes and give them my 100 percent concentration because they were so dangerous in the ring.
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Manny Pacquiao burst onto the world boxing scene more than a decade ago, capturing the fans’ imagination with an intoxicating blend of speed and power that left many opponents in a heap on the canvas.
All told, Pacquiao has won 10 world titles in a record eight weight classes – four of them as lineal champion.
His first was the WBC flyweight belt, which he won in Thailand just two weeks before his 20th birthday in 1998. He lost the title in his second defense in part because of weight problems, but resurfaced at junior featherweight. It changed his life and boxing.
In his stunning breakout performance, Pacquiao won the IBF title by stopping rising star Lehlo Ledwaba in eight rounds on the Oscar De La Hoya-Javier Castillejo card at the MGM Grand in 2001.
Pacquiao became a true crossover star with his compelling nine-fight series against the great Mexican trio of Marco Antonio Barrera (2-0), Erik Morales (2-1) and archrival Juan Manuel Marquez (2-1-1).
Pacquiao also boasts impressive wins over many other big-name opponents, including David Diaz, De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton, Miguel Cotto, Joshua Clottey, Antonio Margarito, Shane Mosley, Brandon Rios and Tim Bradley.
The past few years have been challenging for Pacquiao. He lost a controversial split decision to Bradley in June 2012 – his first setback since 2005 – and suffered a one-punch knockout against Marquez six months later.
However, Pacquiao bounced back with three wins – Rios, Bradley in their rematch and then Chris Algieri – to dismiss any notion that he was finished as an elite fighter. His newfound momentum set up the showdown with Floyd Mayweather Jr. on May 2.
Pacquiao is currently 14-2-2, with eight knockouts, in world-title fights.
One thing that can’t be quantified, though, is the proud Filipino’s profound connection with his people.
“Bringing glory to my country and my people with each victory renews my pride in my Filipino heritage,” Pacquiao told THE RING. “Moving up two weight divisions to beat Oscar De La Hoya and being named Fighter of the Decade by the BWAA are my next proudest accomplishments.”
Pacquiao is very busy outside of boxing. He has five children with his wife, Jinkee. He also is a congressman for the Sarangani district and a reserve officer in the Armed Forces of the Philippines. He has appeared in several movies, is a recorded singer and is player/coach of a pro basketball team in his home country.
He graciously agreed to speak to THE RING about the best he has faced in 10 key categories.
BEST JAB
Oscar De La Hoya: His jab is a tactical weapon. It can set up a punch or act as a weapon.
BEST PUNCHER
Miguel Cotto: I can still feel some of those punches he threw at me. Staying on the ropes is not the best place to be when you are fighting him. He’s also accurate. He’s incredible.
FASTEST HANDS
Lehlo Ledwaba: His hands were blazing.
FASTEST FEET
De La Hoya: He moves so quickly and effortlessly. He is a complete athlete.
SMARTEST
Cotto: It was hard to bait him. He has seen it all. I really had to out-hustle him. He made me work.
BEST CHIN
Antonio Margarito: That fight was a war. It was brutal. I threw everything at him and he not only took it but came back for more. Incredible.
STRONGEST
Margarito: Big and strong is an understatement. His body shots hurt me several times throughout our fight.
BEST DEFENSE
Joshua Clottey: And not for a good reason, at least for the fans.
BEST SKILL SET
Juan Manuel Marquez: He is the only fighter who really could figure me out and anticipate my moves. He is a brilliant counterpuncher and a tremendous warrior.
BEST OVERALL
Several: I cannot specify one. Oscar De La Hoya, Miguel Cotto, Marco Antonio Barrera, Juan Manuel Marquez and Erik Morales all had tremendous skills. They commanded respect because they were all multi-dimensional. I had to be on my toes and give them my 100 percent concentration because they were so dangerous in the ring.
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by AdamT Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:50 pm
superflyweight wrote:What are your views on Holyfield's triple jab Adam?
His double and triple jab were probably his best weapons other than literally using his head! Why??
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by AdamT Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:53 pm
Superflyweight what are your views on taking it in your rear end? 
That is about as valid as your question was. In other words, what the hell has your question got to do with this thread??
That is about as valid as your question was. In other words, what the hell has your question got to do with this thread??
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by superflyweight Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:57 pm
AdamT wrote:Superflyweight what are your views on taking it in your rear end?
That is about as valid as your question was. In other words, what the hell has your question got to do with this thread??
Get it anywhere and any way you can Adam. Remember to get him to rubber up though.
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by AdamT Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:58 pm
Still haven't answered my question? What has Holyfield got to do with this thread??
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Re: Nunn! Best I've faced!
by TRUSSMAN66 Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:00 pm
hazharrison wrote:You have an interest in Nunn Adam? Amazing considering you only started watching boxing after he'd retired. Amazing.....
Probably the dumbest statement anybody has ever made on here..
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by TRUSSMAN66 Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:03 pm
Could the mods check to see If Adam is an alias please...
Getting a bit bored with this crap now..
Like "Coming from a Hopkins fan"....Some children never know when to stop.
Getting a bit bored with this crap now..
Like "Coming from a Hopkins fan"....Some children never know when to stop.
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Re: Nunn! Best I've faced!
by AdamT Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:04 pm
Not as dumb as stating someone who is a 6 division champ is overrated.
Yet hops on the bandwagon with someone who's best win is Martin Murray!
Yet hops on the bandwagon with someone who's best win is Martin Murray!
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by AdamT Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:06 pm
Yeah I would like this confirmed as well. It's getting a little old now.
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by TRUSSMAN66 Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:12 pm
Hard to figure out how good Nunn was..
Tate fight was phenomenal. ..However Kalambay fought like Hatton against Paz..clueless...and he labored with Don..Marlon and Iran..
Underachiever for me..
Tate fight was phenomenal. ..However Kalambay fought like Hatton against Paz..clueless...and he labored with Don..Marlon and Iran..
Underachiever for me..
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by AdamT Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:16 pm
I put this up, because of the quality Nunn faced. It's a good read, as are the others I posted in this thread.
Many on here might have read them and many maybe haven't.
I still think it's a bit below the belt coming on here and accusing me of being an alias when I post a genuine article.
Not that I'm particularly bothered, but I get called up on any sh1t I do.
Double standards and all that. Haz posted that overrated thread just to stir sh1t. All his threads are to stir sh1t.
Many on here might have read them and many maybe haven't.
I still think it's a bit below the belt coming on here and accusing me of being an alias when I post a genuine article.
Not that I'm particularly bothered, but I get called up on any sh1t I do.
Double standards and all that. Haz posted that overrated thread just to stir sh1t. All his threads are to stir sh1t.
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by TRUSSMAN66 Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:24 pm
Only the village idiot and a one line hit and run merchant.
Feel sorry for ONETWO he's had it for five years..
Funny thing is everyone has always been an alias of me....Never the other way around..
I like you Adam..
Feel sorry for ONETWO he's had it for five years..
Funny thing is everyone has always been an alias of me....Never the other way around..
I like you Adam..
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by AdamT Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:37 pm
What is Haz is also an alias of ours!
Maybe we are really crazy!!
Maybe we are really crazy!!
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by hazharrison Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:44 pm
AdamT wrote:What is Haz is also an alias of ours!
Maybe we are really crazy!!
Anyone who can be bothered to log onto a forum under two different names does probably have some issues that require checking.
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by TRUSSMAN66 Thu Nov 26, 2015 3:04 pm
AdamT wrote:Does Truss only have 2 alias now??
All this because I had a go at one of his favorite fighters on another thread....There is more to life than Boxing !!
Gotta laugh really..
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by Adam D Thu Nov 26, 2015 3:26 pm
Can I please point out that Adam T and TRUSSMAN are not the same people.
They both have regular IP addresses and are located in different part of the countries. During Truss' sabbatical for a few weeks, Adam T still posted.
They are definitely not the same person.
Can we all please just move on from any accusations, as I feel that it is ruining some good discussions.
They both have regular IP addresses and are located in different part of the countries. During Truss' sabbatical for a few weeks, Adam T still posted.
They are definitely not the same person.
Can we all please just move on from any accusations, as I feel that it is ruining some good discussions.
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by AdamT Thu Nov 26, 2015 3:27 pm
Thanks Adam.
No hard feelings Haz, I'm happy to continue any banter, but I'm glad that is cleared up.
No hard feelings Haz, I'm happy to continue any banter, but I'm glad that is cleared up.
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by TRUSSMAN66 Thu Nov 26, 2015 3:46 pm
Adam D wrote:Can I please point out that Adam T and TRUSSMAN are not the same people.
They both have regular IP addresses and are located in different part of the countries. During Truss' sabbatical for a few weeks, Adam T still posted.
They are definitely not the same person.
Can we all please just move on from any accusations, as I feel that it is ruining some good discussions.
Thank you Adam....
ANY APOLOGIES ARE GRATEFULLY ACCEPTED !!!
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by superflyweight Thu Nov 26, 2015 3:47 pm
Adam D wrote:Can I please point out that Adam T and TRUSSMAN are not the same people.
They both have regular IP addresses and are located in different part of the countries. During Truss' sabbatical for a few weeks, Adam T still posted.
They are definitely not the same person.
Can we all please just move on from any accusations, as I feel that it is ruining some good discussions.
Are you referring to discussions on some other site?
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by TRUSSMAN66 Thu Nov 26, 2015 3:55 pm
superflyweight wrote:Adam D wrote:Can I please point out that Adam T and TRUSSMAN are not the same people.
They both have regular IP addresses and are located in different part of the countries. During Truss' sabbatical for a few weeks, Adam T still posted.
They are definitely not the same person.
Can we all please just move on from any accusations, as I feel that it is ruining some good discussions.
Are you referring to discussions on some other site?
P**sing on threads like this your way of making it better ??
Thank goodness recently banned mature types like me are around to pick up the pieces..
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by AdamT Thu Nov 26, 2015 3:59 pm
Yep he asks me a question, what do I think about Holyfields triple jab?
Obviously trying to be a smart a** trying to test my knowledge.
The thing is, I have never, ever came on claiming I am a knowledgeable poster.
I still enjoy boxing and believe my opinion is allowed.
Obviously trying to be a smart a** trying to test my knowledge.
The thing is, I have never, ever came on claiming I am a knowledgeable poster.
I still enjoy boxing and believe my opinion is allowed.
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by AdamT Thu Nov 26, 2015 4:03 pm
I am calm. Just saying!
I think it is all rather amusing to be honest.
I think it is all rather amusing to be honest.
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by superflyweight Thu Nov 26, 2015 4:10 pm
The triple jab wasn't me having a go at your boxing knowledge (I'm just about the last person that should be throwing stones at that glass house) - it was a reference to the remarkable (and we're told completely coincidental) similarities between you and Truss.
Years of exposure to Truss' posts mean that I'm used to some of his stock phrases - "Holyfield's triple jab" being one of them.
Years of exposure to Truss' posts mean that I'm used to some of his stock phrases - "Holyfield's triple jab" being one of them.
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by TRUSSMAN66 Thu Nov 26, 2015 4:17 pm
Believe what you want pal.....
Maybe add to a debate once in a while........while your believing..
Maybe add to a debate once in a while........while your believing..
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by AdamT Thu Nov 26, 2015 4:24 pm
superflyweight wrote:The triple jab wasn't me having a go at your boxing knowledge (I'm just about the last people that should be throwing stones at that glass house) - it was a reference to the remarkable (and we're told completely coincidental) similarities between you and Truss.
Years of exposure to Truss' posts mean that I'm used to some of his stock phrases - "Holyfield's triple jab" being one of them.
Oh right, no hard feelings, I am not mad. I actually like the banter!
Was more curious.
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by AdamT Thu Nov 26, 2015 4:26 pm
Me and Truss are actually long lost twins.
I am more like Arnold and he is Danny DeVito.
I am more like Arnold and he is Danny DeVito.
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Re: Nunn! Best I've faced!
by TopHat24/7 Thu Nov 26, 2015 4:33 pm
AdamT wrote:Yep he asks me a question, what do I think about Holyfields triple jab?
Obviously trying to be a smart a** trying to test my knowledge.
It wasn't a knowledge test, it was a p*** take on the Truss alias joke. As 'triple jab' is one of the phrases Truss is most famous for on here/606, that and 10-1-1.....
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Re: Nunn! Best I've faced!
by AdamT Thu Nov 26, 2015 4:35 pm
I understand now, bit like rolled like a drunk??
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by superflyweight Thu Nov 26, 2015 4:41 pm
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Believe what you want pal.....
Maybe add to a debate once in a while........while your believing..
Ok - Pac's answers seem to be a bit disingenuous. I don't think he's talking about the version of De La Hoya that he faced and to not mention Mayweather at all lacks credibility (assuming the interview took place after their fight).
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by TRUSSMAN66 Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:08 pm
All this because I disagree with a guy about Oscar ..
Like I said...more to life than Boxing !!...
Like I said...more to life than Boxing !!...
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by TopHat24/7 Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:27 pm
AdamT wrote:I understand now, bit like rolled like a drunk??
Nailed it
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by TopHat24/7 Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:29 pm
superflyweight wrote:TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Believe what you want pal.....
Maybe add to a debate once in a while........while your believing..
Ok - Pac's answers seem to be a bit disingenuous. I don't think he's talking about the version of De La Hoya that he faced and to not mention Mayweather at all lacks credibility (assuming the interview took place after their fight).
However, Pacquiao bounced back with three wins – Rios, Bradley in their rematch and then Chris Algieri – to dismiss any notion that he was finished as an elite fighter. His newfound momentum set up the showdown with Floyd Mayweather Jr. on May 2.
Would suggest the interview was carried out before Mayweather, not that I expect the answers post-PBF would be quite like Castillo's.
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Re: Nunn! Best I've faced!
by hazharrison Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:55 pm
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:hazharrison wrote:You have an interest in Nunn Adam? Amazing considering you only started watching boxing after he'd retired. Amazing.....
Probably the dumbest statement anybody has ever made on here..
Unfortunately you still have 99 of the top 100.
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by AdamT Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:20 pm
Haz on the bright side you have two cu.s to argue with instead of one
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