France v Scotland, 5 September

RDW_Scotland wrote:Well I'm celebrating 5 years since starting work with my company, so the cakes are on me this morning!

funnyExiledScot wrote:

RDW_Scotland wrote:Well I'm celebrating 5 years since starting work with my company, so the cakes are on me this morning!

Ouch, you won't like that sort of expenditure. Let me guess, own brand Jaffa Cakes Joffa Cakes (Lidl's own brand) were on special offer this weekend at Lidl??

funnyExiledScot wrote:

RDW_Scotland wrote:Well I'm celebrating 5 years since starting work with my company, so the cakes are on me this morning!

Ouch, you won't like that sort of expenditure. Let me guess, own brand Jaffa Cakes were on special offer this weekend at Lidl??

RDW_Scotland wrote:

funnyExiledScot wrote:

RDW_Scotland wrote:Well I'm celebrating 5 years since starting work with my company, so the cakes are on me this morning!

Ouch, you won't like that sort of expenditure. Let me guess, own brand Jaffa Cakes were on special offer this weekend at Lidl??

I'm just impressed you know what Lidl actually is FES!

cakeordeath wrote:

funnyExiledScot wrote:

RDW_Scotland wrote:Well I'm celebrating 5 years since starting work with my company, so the cakes are on me this morning!

Ouch, you won't like that sort of expenditure. Let me guess, own brand Jaffa Cakes Joffa Cakes (Lidl's own brand) were on special offer this weekend at Lidl??

Fixed that for you

George Carlin wrote:

RDW_Scotland wrote:

funnyExiledScot wrote:

RDW_Scotland wrote:Well I'm celebrating 5 years since starting work with my company, so the cakes are on me this morning!

Ouch, you won't like that sort of expenditure. Let me guess, own brand Jaffa Cakes were on special offer this weekend at Lidl??

I'm just impressed you know what Lidl actually is FES!

He had to ask his footman, but I also appreciate the attempt at cross-cultural solidarity.

funnyExiledScot wrote:

George Carlin wrote:

RDW_Scotland wrote:

funnyExiledScot wrote:

RDW_Scotland wrote:Well I'm celebrating 5 years since starting work with my company, so the cakes are on me this morning!

Ouch, you won't like that sort of expenditure. Let me guess, own brand Jaffa Cakes were on special offer this weekend at Lidl??

I'm just impressed you know what Lidl actually is FES!

He had to ask his footman, but I also appreciate the attempt at cross-cultural solidarity.

Absolutely, it went like this:

"Excuse me my good man. One is asking where one should locate oneself should one wish to acquire some tuck for a modest outlay?"

funnyExiledScot wrote:

George Carlin wrote:

RDW_Scotland wrote:

funnyExiledScot wrote:

RDW_Scotland wrote:Well I'm celebrating 5 years since starting work with my company, so the cakes are on me this morning!

Ouch, you won't like that sort of expenditure. Let me guess, own brand Jaffa Cakes were on special offer this weekend at Lidl??

I'm just impressed you know what Lidl actually is FES!

He had to ask his footman, but I also appreciate the attempt at cross-cultural solidarity.

Absolutely, it went like this:

"Excuse me my good man minion. One is asking demanding one such as yourself should relocate to be out of my visual vortex. While oneself should one wish to you are off the leash, please try to better oneself through eating what the likes of you call fruit. Where do serfs such as you actually congregate and does one need a visa or shots when one goes there. Now be off with you before I bring our my Sunday thrashing cane eating one of your more acquire some tuck for a modest outlay?"

RDW_Scotland wrote:I watched the highlights this morning – that pass from Matt Scott was truly awful.  I don’t even think the missed pass option was necessarily a bad one – I think we would have scored if it was a missed pass, it was more the fact that the ball went to no one.  If he had hit any man outside him I think we would have scored.

He is going to get a pasting come video review time.  As will the forwards for messing up that lineout on our line – that was just as responsible for us losing as Scott’s bad pass IMO.

EWT Spoons wrote:

RDW_Scotland wrote:I watched the highlights this morning – that pass from Matt Scott was truly awful.  I don’t even think the missed pass option was necessarily a bad one – I think we would have scored if it was a missed pass, it was more the fact that the ball went to no one.  If he had hit any man outside him I think we would have scored.

He is going to get a pasting come video review time.  As will the forwards for messing up that lineout on our line – that was just as responsible for us losing as Scott’s bad pass IMO.

I've not seen the highlights, but was it Scott that knocked on at the back of that lineout?  The stream I was watching was terrible (at only the key stages, worked like a treat when players were getting water etc) but it looked at the time that the ball was thrown to the back, was knocked slightly by a French player and Scott was the Scottish player coming onto the ball and fumbled it.

This could all be wrong obviously but that's how I remembered/interpreted the heavily pixelated events

jimbopip wrote:Also, I see the Wallabies managed to cap Big Tacky. I can see him being called into their squad as injury cover for their quarter-final against Scotland. Hopefully Shrek, Ickle Jonny, Bluto and Batman will give him a big friendly Glasgow welcome.

RDW_Scotland wrote:

EWT Spoons wrote:

RDW_Scotland wrote:I watched the highlights this morning – that pass from Matt Scott was truly awful.  I don’t even think the missed pass option was necessarily a bad one – I think we would have scored if it was a missed pass, it was more the fact that the ball went to no one.  If he had hit any man outside him I think we would have scored.

He is going to get a pasting come video review time.  As will the forwards for messing up that lineout on our line – that was just as responsible for us losing as Scott’s bad pass IMO.

I've not seen the highlights, but was it Scott that knocked on at the back of that lineout?  The stream I was watching was terrible (at only the key stages, worked like a treat when players were getting water etc) but it looked at the time that the ball was thrown to the back, was knocked slightly by a French player and Scott was the Scottish player coming onto the ball and fumbled it.

This could all be wrong obviously but that's how I remembered/interpreted the heavily pixelated events

It was Scott I think, but in his defence he got the ball and dimitri szarzewski in his face at the same time – the whole phase was just badly executed.

jimbopip wrote:Whisper it softly, but I think a close defeat was possibly the best thing that could happen to us.

A win in Paris would, possibly, have triggered hubris on a pre-Argentina scale.  A heavy defeat would have had us in full Private Fraser mode. A narrow defeat leaves us grounded, with specific things to work on, quietly confident that we can compete at the highest level and confident we will improve over the group games. Pretty much as good an outcome as we might want.

Imagine we had lost two keys players as the Welsh did. Or lost to the English. Or watched the lightweights in the group put almost fifty points on Canada. Our weekend could have been a lot worse.

Also, I see the Wallabies managed to cap Big Tacky. I can see him being called into their squad as injury cover for their quarter-final against Scotland. Hopefully Shrek, Ickle Jonny, Bluto and Batman will give him a big friendly Glasgow welcome.

Riskysports wrote:

jimbopip wrote:Whisper it softly, but I think a close defeat was possibly the best thing that could happen to us.

A win in Paris would, possibly, have triggered hubris on a pre-Argentina scale.  A heavy defeat would have had us in full Private Fraser mode. A narrow defeat leaves us grounded, with specific things to work on, quietly confident that we can compete at the highest level and confident we will improve over the group games. Pretty much as good an outcome as we might want.

Imagine we had lost two keys players as the Welsh did. Or lost to the English. Or watched the lightweights in the group put almost fifty points on Canada. Our weekend could have been a lot worse.

Also, I see the Wallabies managed to cap Big Tacky. I can see him being called into their squad as injury cover for their quarter-final against Scotland. Hopefully Shrek, Ickle Jonny, Bluto and Batman will give him a big friendly Glasgow welcome.

Sorry, but i can agree

We have stocked up on narrow losses - we do not need another one

A draw would have been idea - or even a narrow win

A narrow loss means we have not managed to turn any corner, and teams will still know we fold under pressure - as we do fold under pressure - and will know they can beat us in the head - because they CAN beat us in the head

One step sideways so far

RDW_Scotland wrote:I watched the highlights this morning – that pass from Matt Scott was truly awful.  I don’t even think the missed pass option was necessarily a bad one – I think we would have scored if it was a missed pass, it was more the fact that the ball went to no one.  If he had hit any man outside him I think we would have scored.

He is going to get a pasting come video review time.  As will the forwards for messing up that lineout on our line – that was just as responsible for us losing as Scott’s bad pass IMO.

funnyExiledScot wrote:Scott knocked on and dropped the ball a number of times against France. I think part of the problem was that he's looking to create, and he therefore carries the ball into contact looking to offload, rather than to simply bash a few yards and set it up. He did make a bunch of metres, and he was the only back to really straighten the line, but his error count was too high. He needs 80 minutes against Japan alongside Russell and Bennett. The more rugby he gets the better he'll be against the Bok and Samoa. For that reason I'd also have him on the bench against USA.

GLove39 wrote:

RDW_Scotland wrote:I watched the highlights this morning – that pass from Matt Scott was truly awful.  I don’t even think the missed pass option was necessarily a bad one – I think we would have scored if it was a missed pass, it was more the fact that the ball went to no one.  If he had hit any man outside him I think we would have scored.

He is going to get a pasting come video review time.  As will the forwards for messing up that lineout on our line – that was just as responsible for us losing as Scott’s bad pass IMO.

Yeah, also decided to watch that back.
Damn, what a frustrating passage of play. Think we should ditch Macron & instead have the shirts painted onto the players. Huget would have had nothing to grab onto then.

And, yeah family sizes pass was TV smashingly bad.
Easy to say in hindsight, but if he'd just given it to Visser, 6m dash for the line, Bastareaud coming across, number 23 already committed to covering outside, most likely try.
Or if we'd done the All Black thing of not panicking & simply through the hands try.
Or if Scott had pulled off a Russell time wonder pass.

Sigh. Hope we're not left like this discussing the what if's later this month.

funnyExiledScot wrote:I think what's so frustrating about the lineout is that it's such an easy thing to work on - i.e. to have a banker lineout call, secure it and exit the 22 with a long touchfinder (ensuring enough depth to prevent a quick lineout).

It's bread and butter defensive work.

More annoying is that the defensive scrummaging was absolutely top notch, as was the defensive work in pushing France into touch.

NeilyBroon wrote:

GLove39 wrote:

RDW_Scotland wrote:I watched the highlights this morning – that pass from Matt Scott was truly awful.  I don’t even think the missed pass option was necessarily a bad one – I think we would have scored if it was a missed pass, it was more the fact that the ball went to no one.  If he had hit any man outside him I think we would have scored.

He is going to get a pasting come video review time.  As will the forwards for messing up that lineout on our line – that was just as responsible for us losing as Scott’s bad pass IMO.

Yeah, also decided to watch that back.
Damn, what a frustrating passage of play. Think we should ditch Macron & instead have the shirts painted onto the players. Huget would have had nothing to grab onto then.

And, yeah family sizes pass was TV smashingly bad.
Easy to say in hindsight, but if he'd just given it to Visser, 6m dash for the line, Bastareaud coming across, number 23 already committed to covering outside, most likely try.
Or if we'd done the All Black thing of not panicking & simply through the hands try.
Or if Scott had pulled off a Russell time wonder pass.

Sigh. Hope we're not left like this discussing the what if's later this month.

Finally got to watch that bit of the game (it wasn't in any highlights strangely enough). Aye that was a typical Scottish tragedy that one! I guess at least it wasn't intercepted, that'd be far worse.

We've got to remember this squad is still very young, the composure has got better but it's not quite there yet. Still to see the best yet, but we're on a steady tangent just about. Play like we did for the last couple of games without the lineout errors, we'll reach the QFs no problem. I think we're yet to see the best of these players but I'm confident this world cup will be when they shine.

BELIEVE!

Riskysports wrote:

NeilyBroon wrote:

GLove39 wrote:

RDW_Scotland wrote:I watched the highlights this morning – that pass from Matt Scott was truly awful.  I don’t even think the missed pass option was necessarily a bad one – I think we would have scored if it was a missed pass, it was more the fact that the ball went to no one.  If he had hit any man outside him I think we would have scored.

He is going to get a pasting come video review time.  As will the forwards for messing up that lineout on our line – that was just as responsible for us losing as Scott’s bad pass IMO.

Yeah, also decided to watch that back.
Damn, what a frustrating passage of play. Think we should ditch Macron & instead have the shirts painted onto the players. Huget would have had nothing to grab onto then.

And, yeah family sizes pass was TV smashingly bad.
Easy to say in hindsight, but if he'd just given it to Visser, 6m dash for the line, Bastareaud coming across, number 23 already committed to covering outside, most likely try.
Or if we'd done the All Black thing of not panicking & simply through the hands try.
Or if Scott had pulled off a Russell time wonder pass.

Sigh. Hope we're not left like this discussing the what if's later this month.

Finally got to watch that bit of the game (it wasn't in any highlights strangely enough). Aye that was a typical Scottish tragedy that one! I guess at least it wasn't intercepted, that'd be far worse.

We've got to remember this squad is still very young, the composure has got better but it's not quite there yet. Still to see the best yet, but we're on a steady tangent just about. Play like we did for the last couple of games without the lineout errors, we'll reach the QFs no problem. I think we're yet to see the best of these players but I'm confident this world cup will be when they shine.

BELIEVE!

NO NO NO NO NO

This has been our mantra for 10 years

We have to stop finding sliver lining out of clouds - they are fing clouds

We need SUN - and sun is WINNING

My Sun cream is ready - I want to whip out my mankini - toast my tatties and bask in the glow of victory

NOTHING ELSE WILL DO - NO EXCUSES - NO BUILDING - THE TIME IS NOW

NeilyBroon wrote:

Riskysports wrote:

NeilyBroon wrote:

GLove39 wrote:

RDW_Scotland wrote:I watched the highlights this morning – that pass from Matt Scott was truly awful.  I don’t even think the missed pass option was necessarily a bad one – I think we would have scored if it was a missed pass, it was more the fact that the ball went to no one.  If he had hit any man outside him I think we would have scored.

He is going to get a pasting come video review time.  As will the forwards for messing up that lineout on our line – that was just as responsible for us losing as Scott’s bad pass IMO.

Yeah, also decided to watch that back.
Damn, what a frustrating passage of play. Think we should ditch Macron & instead have the shirts painted onto the players. Huget would have had nothing to grab onto then.

And, yeah family sizes pass was TV smashingly bad.
Easy to say in hindsight, but if he'd just given it to Visser, 6m dash for the line, Bastareaud coming across, number 23 already committed to covering outside, most likely try.
Or if we'd done the All Black thing of not panicking & simply through the hands try.
Or if Scott had pulled off a Russell time wonder pass.

Sigh. Hope we're not left like this discussing the what if's later this month.

Finally got to watch that bit of the game (it wasn't in any highlights strangely enough). Aye that was a typical Scottish tragedy that one! I guess at least it wasn't intercepted, that'd be far worse.

We've got to remember this squad is still very young, the composure has got better but it's not quite there yet. Still to see the best yet, but we're on a steady tangent just about. Play like we did for the last couple of games without the lineout errors, we'll reach the QFs no problem. I think we're yet to see the best of these players but I'm confident this world cup will be when they shine.

BELIEVE!

NO NO NO NO NO

This has been our mantra for 10 years

We have to stop finding sliver lining out of clouds - they are fing clouds

We need SUN - and sun is WINNING

My Sun cream is ready - I want to whip out my mankini - toast my tatties and bask in the glow of victory

NOTHING ELSE WILL DO - NO EXCUSES - NO BUILDING - THE TIME IS NOW

I did say this world cup will be when they shine so don't put your jubblies away just yet!

Riskysports wrote:

NeilyBroon wrote:

Riskysports wrote:

NeilyBroon wrote:

GLove39 wrote:

RDW_Scotland wrote:I watched the highlights this morning – that pass from Matt Scott was truly awful.  I don’t even think the missed pass option was necessarily a bad one – I think we would have scored if it was a missed pass, it was more the fact that the ball went to no one.  If he had hit any man outside him I think we would have scored.

He is going to get a pasting come video review time.  As will the forwards for messing up that lineout on our line – that was just as responsible for us losing as Scott’s bad pass IMO.

Yeah, also decided to watch that back.
Damn, what a frustrating passage of play. Think we should ditch Macron & instead have the shirts painted onto the players. Huget would have had nothing to grab onto then.

And, yeah family sizes pass was TV smashingly bad.
Easy to say in hindsight, but if he'd just given it to Visser, 6m dash for the line, Bastareaud coming across, number 23 already committed to covering outside, most likely try.
Or if we'd done the All Black thing of not panicking & simply through the hands try.
Or if Scott had pulled off a Russell time wonder pass.

Sigh. Hope we're not left like this discussing the what if's later this month.

Finally got to watch that bit of the game (it wasn't in any highlights strangely enough). Aye that was a typical Scottish tragedy that one! I guess at least it wasn't intercepted, that'd be far worse.

We've got to remember this squad is still very young, the composure has got better but it's not quite there yet. Still to see the best yet, but we're on a steady tangent just about. Play like we did for the last couple of games without the lineout errors, we'll reach the QFs no problem. I think we're yet to see the best of these players but I'm confident this world cup will be when they shine.

BELIEVE!

NO NO NO NO NO

This has been our mantra for 10 years

We have to stop finding sliver lining out of clouds - they are fing clouds

We need SUN - and sun is WINNING

My Sun cream is ready - I want to whip out my mankini - toast my tatties and bask in the glow of victory

NOTHING ELSE WILL DO - NO EXCUSES - NO BUILDING - THE TIME IS NOW

I did say this world cup will be when they shine so don't put your jubblies away just yet!

Whisper - jubblies never really put away

funnyExiledScot wrote:

cakeordeath wrote:

funnyExiledScot wrote:

RDW_Scotland wrote:Well I'm celebrating 5 years since starting work with my company, so the cakes are on me this morning!

Ouch, you won't like that sort of expenditure. Let me guess, own brand Jaffa Cakes Joffa Cakes (Lidl's own brand) were on special offer this weekend at Lidl??

Fixed that for you

I'm assuming this is a subject you feel strongly about!