Summerslam Spoilers

Well this is seemingly set up for a Cena win..pre match talk all about the run and destruction Brock has caused since losing to Cena last...then the beast hits early f5 and has completely and utterly dominated opening 10 minutes!

If John does his usual 5 moves off doom comeback and win in this one then twitter and the like is going to blow up.

Decent enough card up till this point; crowd have felt flat at times. Randy Orton stand out performer of the night.

the main event. wow. in the two matches Lesnar has had this year, he has managed to make me speechless at the end of both of them. He absolutely annihilated Cena, 16 German Suplex's! 16!

Well; Thank god they got the decision right on that one...

Such an odd thing really; It was so dominating yet so underwhelming at the same time, perhaps the repetitive nature of the German suplexes caused that feeling; for me it could have been choreographed slightly better...that being said the crowd didn't help (as I'll explain shortly)

Finally WWE make a big call on Cena in terms of not having him win the big one against odds; Now it's all about the journey from here...it goes 1 of 2 ways;

1) Brock is built up, scratch that, continues to be an absolute dominant force from now to Mania where he drops the title to either a Royal Rumble winning Bryan or Roman Reigns

2) Cena is out for a while before returning to slay the beast incarnate, thus put the final stamp on his legacy

I really hope it's the former as I think either Bryan or Reigns picking up the win completely tears down the glass ceiling for both and gives us a Superstar for the next 5-10 years. Obviously Reigns has yet to have his Mania moment and will need one so would be perfect choice for him...but I feel Bryan still needs something especially following his momentum loss due to the injury..

However should WWE go the other route, whilst it would be controversial it does in many aspects make kayfabe sense. It would be much better to create the next star by putting him over a 15 time World Champion who beat one of the greatest superstars in history at Wrestlemania as well as beating the destructive beast who beat the streak...

Match Of The Night - Rollins vs Ambrose; Didn't showcase all they were capable of but some great spots as well as good ending which keeps story flowing.

Performance of the night - Randy Orton; a man who many believe is just missing something...whilst plenty feel that it is in fact the universe who just can't see it in him. Tonight Orton showed just why he is perhaps the best in the WWE when used correctly. Always silky smooth in the ring; great array of moves all of which look good and are done with great conviction and an ability to work the crowd just doing the simple old school things.

Negative Of The Night - Crowd - Didn't think they were good tonight and actually glad to see Summerslam move onto pastures new next year. They sounded and looked flat for most of the night; seemingly not prepared to buy into anything that was going on. As much as it is the performers jobs to make a PPV a success it's also a crowds. There were great spots, shocks and good (perhaps not great) storytelling throughout the night but the crowd didn't help carry any of this over. Prime example the Brock match - whilst as I mentioned it could have been choreographed better the fans could have really helped sell what it was...a complete and utter destruction. Brock just likes to fight...to inflict pain...to punish and he did all of that. He was never going to land moonsaults or such...he was going to do what he does best; punch, elbow, knee, grapple and F5...i.e. all things MMA (except the finisher of course)....but because that's all he did the crowd began to chant boring and just fell flat.

Overall a decent PPV made better by the right results and the correct extension and ending of all feuds. 7/10 for me.

It was a good PPV I thought. I called Nikki turning on Brie about 2 weeks ago. I also had a feeling Ziggler would win the belt. Those 2 counters Orton did to Reigns when he was attempting a Spear and a Superman Punch were f*cking majestic. Amazing.

WWE will have to go some way in building up Reigns to make a relative rookie beating a guy that pummeled the 2 best current wrestlers in kayfabe believable.

Here's the full spoilers for everyone 

Hulk Hogan comes out and greets the crowd, and he cuts a WWE Network promo before sending it to the ring.
Intercontinental Championship
Dolph Ziggler vs The Miz (c)
Dolph gets a near fall before swinging at Miz, but Miz rolls outside to avoid damage to his ‘money maker.’ Dolph chops him as he gets back in and charges at him, but Miz dives away and Dolph hits the turnbuckles before Miz stomps him. Dolph comes back with a clothesline and a corner splash, then he connects with a superkick before Miz rolls outside. He goes for his belt and tries to leave but Dolph hits him from behind, then he rolls him in but Miz puts him in a Figure Four. Dolph makes it to the ropes to break, then he gets up and tries to attack but Miz catches him with a Skull Crushing Finale for two. Miz looks surprised and tries to kick Dolph, but Dolph ducks and surprises him with a Zig Zag for the win.
Winner and NEW Intercontinental Champion – Dolph Ziggler

Tom Phillips asks Brie Bella how she has been since being arrested, and Brie says Stephanie threw herself a pity party when she was arrested, but not her. Brie says she reflected on things, and she thought about all the times Brie harrassed her husband or sister, like calling Daniel Bryan a ‘B+ player.’ She says Stephanie even stooped as low as paying off Bryan’s trainer, but now she will go take care of things in the ring, because that’s best for business.

Divas Championship
Paige vs AJ Lee (c)
 They go to lock up but AJ bites Paige’s hand and pulls her hair, then Paige runs away but AJ slams her face into the commentary table. She rolls Paige in and gets caught with a kick, then Paige tries to knee her on the apron but AJ blocks and goes for a kick. Paige catches her and slams her into the barricade, then she repeatedly headbutts her and applies a headlock. Paige takes her to the apron and knees her in the face, then she heads up top but AJ cuts her off. They trade shots on the turnbuckles before AJ shoves her on the floor, and she waits for Paige to stand up before taking her down with a diving crossbody. AJ rolls her in and gets a near fall, then Paige catches her with a thrust kick before AJ puts her in the Black Widow, but Paige counters with Ram-Paige for the win.
Winner and NEW Divas Champion – Paige
Flag Match 
Rusev (w/ Lana) vs Jack Swagger (w/ Zeb Colter)
Rusev attacks Swagger before the bell but Swagger kicks him and puts him in the Patriot Lock, and the referee breaks it up and separates them. Lana flips out and tells the ref Swagger hurt Rusev’s ankle, but they ring the bell anyway and Swagger charges the corner. He kicks Rusev a few times and targets Rusev’s ankle, twisting it around the ropes before Rusev tries to stumble away. Swagger goes after him and hits him, then Rusev stomps him a few times and kicks him in the back. Rusev throws him down after Swagger can’t lift him for a suplex, then he taunts Swagger and walks into a belly-to-belly suplex.
Swagger clotheslines him a few times and hits a Swagger Bomb for two, hurting his already injured ribs, but still goes for a Patriot Lock. Rusev kicks him back but Swagger slams him on the mat, then Rusev catches him with a kick to the ribs and a superkick. Rusev stomps Swagger and goes for the Accolade, but can’t lift him because he can’t put weight on his ankle, so he applies a modified version of the hold. Swagger presses up and counters into a Patriot Lock, and Rusev fights through the pain before shifting and kicking Swagger back. Rusev catches him with a heel kick and a running splash, then he puts him in the Accolade and the ref rings the bell after Swagger passes out. Zeb checks on Swagger after the bell, but Lana taunts him and Rusev kicks him in the face.
Winner – Rusev

Lumberjack Match
Dean Ambrose vs Seth Rollins
 Ambrose runs at Rollins and punches him, then he clotheslines him and stomps him in the corner. Ambrose slams Rollins’ face on the mat before Rollins throws him outside, but Rollins fights with the lumberjacks and runs back inside. Rollins knees him and sends him back out, and Ambrose gets attacked on the floor before being rolled back in. Rollins gets a near fall before Ambrose kicks him in the face, then he heads up top but Rollins crotches him on the ropes. Rollins stomps him in tree of woe position before putting him in an armbar, then he shoves Ambrose on the apron but Ambrose suplexes him onto the lumberjacks! They all brawl on the floor before Ambrose backdrops Rollins into the crowd, then the lumberjacks get a hold of Ambrose and throw him in the ring. Ambrose takes them out with a suicide dive, then he runs across the barricade and tackles Rollins.
Ambrose attacks Kofi Kingston and chases Rollins into the crowd, then they fight in the stands as Kane makes his way out. Kane screams at the lumberjacks to get them out of the crowd, then Ambrose tries to throw Rollins off of a stairway but he is pulled back. Rybaxel drags Ambrose back to the ring as Rollins knocks Sin Cara down and runs for it, making it to the stage but he’s cut off by a group of lumberjacks. They force him back towards the ring as Ambrose climbs up top, and he takes the entire group out with a diving crossbody before attempting Dirty Deeds. Rollins drops down and kicks him to counter, but Ambrose rebounds off the ropes and clotheslines him for another fall. Ambrose knocks Rollins down and catches him with a Curb Stomp, then he makes the cover but Kane breaks the count. Goldust gets in Kane’s face and it ends up in a huge brawl, and when it clears out Rollins hits Ambrose with the briefcase and makes the cover.
Winner – Seth Rollins

Bray Wyatt vs Chris Jericho
Jericho hits Bray a few times and heads up top, but Bray knocks him on the floor and throws him into the ringpost on the way back in. He applies a headlock but Jericho shoves him into the ropes and clotheslines him, then he connects with an enziguiri for two. Jericho goes for a clothesline but Bray ducks and splashes him, then he connects with a running senton and a forearm in the corner. Bray charges the corner but Jericho dropkicks him, then Jericho kicks him in the ribs before Bray comes back with a side slam.
Bray sets up Sister Abigail but Jericho counters with Walls of Jericho, then Bray makes it to the ropes before throwing Jericho outside. Bray DDT’s Jericho on the apron and gets a two count, then Jericho comes back with a hurricanrana and a kick to the face. He goes for a Lionsault but Bray bridges up and screams at him, then Bray runs at him but Jericho catches him with a Codebreaker for two. Jericho stomps him goes for a baseball slide kick, but Bray sidesteps and jabs him in the throat before hitting Sister Abigail onto the barricade. Bray rolls him back in and taunts him, then hits another Sister Abigail for the win.
Winner – Bray Wyatt

Brie Bella vs Stephanie McMahon
Stephanie kicks Brie and rams her with her shoulder in the corner, then she throws Brie by the hair and mocks the crowd with a YES chant. She tries to slap Brie but Brie blocks it and slaps her back, then goes for a YES Lock but Stephanie gets away. Stephanie rolls outside so Brie goes after her, but Stephanie hits her with a forearm to block a suicide dive. Brie makes it back in before the ten count, but Stephanie DDT’s her and chokes her. Stephanie calls Brie ‘her bitch’ and hits a snapmare, then she steps on Brie’s throat and taunts her. Brie kicks her and takes her down with a Thesz press, then she throws Stephanie in the corner and repeatedly knees her.
Brie hits a missile dropkick for two, then she punches Stephanie a few times as Triple H makes his way out. Nikki Bella comes right out after him, then the ref forces HHH off the apron as Brie applies a YES Lock. HHH pulls the referee out of the ring, so Brie dropkicks him through the ropes and taunts him with a YES chant. Stephanie tries to get away but Nikki goes and cuts her off, and Brie stands behind her, with Stephanie trying to beg them off. Nikki ends up clotheslining Brie, turning on her, then Stephanie hits Brie with a Pedigree for the win.
Winner – Stephanie McMahon

Randy Orton vs Roman Reigns 
 Reigns hits Orton and sends him out of the ring, then he punches Orton to avoid a headlock but Orton slams his head on the mat. Orton stomps him and applies a headlock, then they trade punches before Orton whips him and Reigns responds with a clothesline. Reigns hangs him up on the ropes and connects with an apron kick, then he throws Orton into the barricade and hits him. Orton hits him back and backdrops Reigns on the commentary table, then he whips Reigns into the steps and taunts the crowd. Orton rolls him in and heads up top, but Reigns cuts him off and sets up for a superplex.
Orton blocks it and headbutts him, then Reigns catches him with a punch that staggers Orton before climbing back up. Reigns hits a Samoan drop off the ropes, then he connects with a Superman punch and sets up for a spear. Orton counters with a spinning powerslam for two, then he connects with a DDT before calling for a RKO. Reigns counters and shoves him into the ropes, then he goes for a flying tackle but Orton leaps up and hits a RKO for two. Orton can’t believe it, and Reigns hasn’t moved yet, so Orton backs into the corner and sets up a punt kick. Orton charges but Reigns rolls away, then he hits the ropes and spears Orton for the win.
Winner – Roman Reigns

WWE World Heavyweight Championship
Brock Lesnar vs John Cena (c)
Brock hits Cena and immediately F5′s him for a near fall, then he tells Cena he will kill him and hits a release German suplex. Brock slams him on the mat before Cena hits him in the corner a few times, but Brock knees him and steps on his hands. Brock picks Cena up and hits four release German suplexes, then he kicks him and suplexes him again while taunting him. Brock hits yet another German suplex and lifts him for one more, but Cena elbows him a few times and drops him with a clothesline. Cena hits the ropes but Brock lifts him for a F5, only to have Cena counter with an Attitude Adjustment for a two count.
Brock taunts Cena into getting up, so Cena charges out of the corner, but Brock sweeps his legs and repeatedly punches him in the head. Cena covers up but Brock keeps hitting him, then he tells the ref to ask Cena to quit. Brock suplexes him a few more times and taunts Cena, then Cena rolls through, taking Brock down and he puts him into a STF. Brock reverses it and pummels Cena in the corner, then he lifts him up and hits a F5 for the win.
Winner – Brock Lesnar

owen10ozzy wrote:
Such an odd thing really; It was so dominating yet so underwhelming at the same time

I feel the same. Personally i think the match was booked wrong.
A semi retired guy and an old guy that wrestles once a year put up more of a fight then the current top guy.
How on earth are we expected to believe goat face can win against Brock?

This is my problem Hulk.

Hes ended the streak and pummelled WWE's top guy within 6 months. In kayfabe terms, hes in demigod territory.

I get what you mean Hulk; but in Kayfabe sense beating Taker at Mania is always going to take more than beating Cena given the streak and what it means to Taker...

In terms of the whole demigod...isn't that how you want him booked? I like many moan that there is no long term booking in the WWE anymore but with this one they at least seem to have a plan for where they are taking Brock and how to book him.

As far as Bryan beating him...well 1) were not sure it will be him & 2) that's what would make any win even more remarkable. Also lets not forget whilst Cena is known as being tough as hell etc he isn't a pure wrestler. One would think that if/when Bryan returns then that is how they would play on his chances. Bryan can suplex and mat wrestle, has the MMA kicks, has the submission holds etc.

As far as Reigns goes I really hope he has some more moves in his arsenal as I only see him becoming as stale and as hated as Cena on this current trajectory only quicker, due to people already having had one 'superman' rammed down their throats for past half a decade.

One thing is for certain;

Only Cena, Bryan or CM Punk as it stands are strong enough/have done enough to warrant going over Brock on his current streak;

Whilst Rollins, Ambrose, Reigns may be hot at the moment we know how quickly flavour of the month can become 'meh' with the crowd....giving any of these the win before Wrestlemania would be a flat out horrific mistake...and most definitely not what is best for business.


As a PPV it is one worth watching; can catch it on Box Office replays....or you can wait until October if your in the UK...or find a plug in service to get it now on the WWE Network for just 9.99!!!

Cena only lost so that after the next PPV they can rave over the glorious 16 time world champion John Cena.

Reigns was carried through that match by Orton, Orton got really over with the crowd in the match. If it is Lesnar vs Reigns at WM 31, it could be one of the worst main events ever at Wrestlemania unless Reigns ups his game

Have to agree that Orton lifted that match, when Orton is on the top of his game then he hits his finishers better than anyone in the business.

I would love to see Cena lose to Lesnar in an I quit match, it would put over Brock big time. It would go completely against the "never give up" gimmick

Agreed regards Reigns; though disagree about Brock v Reigns being worst mania event....as long as they play it out exactly how it should be...a brawl not a wrestling match; whilst obviously given it's called 'wrestling' we all want to see true technicians there isn't anything wrong with a good old fashioned tear up and these two could provide that in abundance.

There are so many avenues that WWE could take with this storyline now & many different faces which could fit into the title picture against Brock...some will go down better than others but you feel that this is the company's biggest chance yet to push someone to the forefront of the business for the next decade....so in that sense Bryan/Reigns/Ambrose/Wyatt would all seem like the most sensible options...however...a match at Wrestlemania with Brock against any of these isn't what's best for business in the short term and here in lies the problem...

With Taker now gone from Mania (we presume at this moment), WWE need a huge match which will carry the PPV and make it money. This is of more importance than ever what with the flagging revenue this year and the rather poor network figures.. from that end I think we could end up with a match which the IWC would go berserk over but logically it would make the best business sense...

WRESTLEMANIA 31:

Brock Lesnar vs The Rock (WWE World Heavyweight Championship)

Unfortunately i think Bryan will have to wait his turn again as RR is viewed as the next big superstar in the company.

Reigns is being built solidly, he's gone through Kane and now Orton. He'll go through Triple H and him and Bryan will joint win the rumble with Bryan going 60+ minutes.

Can't settle a winner and the match at Elimination Chamber is a time limit draw meaning they both go to WM. Then i'd have the Main Event of WM be: Lesnar v Reigns v Bryan, Reigns breaks out of the YES Lock to beat Bryan and then defeats Lesnar for the win.

What a main event, fascinating viewing, couldn't believe the idiotic crowd chanting "boring boring" sums them up though, it was brilliant, yes it was a bit uncomfortable to watch and yes it wasn't pretty, that's the whole point, it wasn't meant to be pretty or comfortable viewing, here we had the poster boy the kids love and for years we've allowed ourselves to believe he's protected beyond belief but last night it felt like Brock Lesnar was just allowed to go crazy on him, that was the beauty of it, the beast did what beasts do and annihilated Cena, I think Cena took it well, it makes sense, when a guy like Brock gets an early advantage like that then he should dominate the match, I don't think we see enough of that to be honest, I'm sick of seeing guys take the beating of their lives only to recover within seconds and then have the strength/stamina to overcome the original aggressor, Lesnar getting the advantage early on set the tone for him dominating the match, I think the fact it took him so much to put Cena away was a nice nod to Cena but in the end it was only a matter of time, great and somewhat unique booking for that type of match.

I thought it was a fantastic pay per view, best since Wrestlemania for me and don't think it's a coincidence that Lesnar coming back raised the bar. I thought the main event was really good, the crowd were crap when they were chanting 'boring, boring' don't know what they wanted, but for the rest of the show they were decent. Superb booking, just don't know how Brock can lose now, but that is perfect, they've built him up so that even us as smarks will be shocked when he has finally been beaten. I do hope it's not a Cena comeback that eventually beats him though. I thought the match was booked perfectly, like Kay Fabe says the early F5 means in kayfabe terms, Cena was already too hurt to put up an actual fight. 

What would be perfect for me is now for Brock just to go with the title and Triple H be desperate to get the title off of him. He will throw Orton, Batista, Rollins at him, maybe even having a match with him again before he finally has to ask Bryan to beat him. Would make a really good story that Triple H is humbled into asking the man who ended the Wrestlemania before the top man to try and take down the Beast.

Surprised at the amount of people saying Orton was good, thought that match was a bit underwhelming, felt like a series of spots rather than a flowing match and too slow paced to be really exciting. The ending was rushed as well I thought. Glad Reigns won, he needed a win as a singles star.

Jericho-Wyatt was probably the worst match of the night, I'm just not sure if Wyatt has long-term potential any more. He's slowly becoming less and less relevant and interesting and I just don't know where they take him from here.

Rusev-Swagger was a decent match with a good story, Swagger looked good for most of it which is good.

The Ambrose-Rollins match was really good, was not happy with the Lumberjack stipulation but they actually used it really well compared to its use in the past. Think Rollins needed the win more than Ambrose.

Stephanie McMahon was actually weirdly good which shows up the rest of the Divas decision, good idea to have the heel turn. 

Paige-AJ Lee was alright. 

Ziggler-Miz was a decent match, felt a little like a Raw match but a good enough opener, surprised Ziggler won but expect him to drop it soon.

Has anyone mentioned Brock sitting up like Taker and laughing?

Kay Fabe wrote:What a main event, fascinating viewing, couldn't believe the idiotic crowd chanting "boring boring" sums them up though, it was brilliant, yes it was a bit uncomfortable to watch and yes it wasn't pretty, that's the whole point, it wasn't meant to be pretty or comfortable viewing, here we had the poster boy the kids love and for years we've allowed ourselves to believe he's protected beyond belief but last night it felt like Brock Lesnar was just allowed to go crazy on him, that was the beauty of it, the beast did what beasts do and annihilated Cena, I think Cena took it well, it makes sense, when a guy like Brock gets an early advantage like that then he should dominate the match, I don't think we see enough of that to be honest, I'm sick of seeing guys take the beating of their lives only to recover within seconds and then have the strength/stamina to overcome the original aggressor, Lesnar getting the advantage early on set the tone for him dominating the match, I think the fact it took him so much to put Cena away was a nice nod to Cena but in the end it was only a matter of time, great and somewhat unique booking for that type of match.

This. Complaints when Cena is Superman-like, complaints when he doesn't make a Superman-like comeback!

The match did what good matches should do - put over both wrestlers. Brock as the beast, Cena due to the beating he endured before being beaten. Also fits in with Cena taking a break for filiming and Brock being part time while the major players jockey for position as a genuine contender to Brock.

RinoGattuso wrote:Has anyone mentioned Brock sitting up like Taker and laughing?

Loved it.

Lesnar is the best in wrestling right now. Even if he can't deliver a fantastic promo, he's got the faces and the psychology absolutely spot on every time.

Im actually surprised that Ziggler went over. Im not sure how to take The Miz no-selling the famouser straight into a SCF, but im still happy for Ziggler.

AJ vs Paige was the best Diva's match in memory. That DDT looks devastating and again, surprised Paige won.

The Rusev match was again, decent. I think this should have been a 'on a pole' match so Swagger could win without pinning Rusev, keeping him looking strong. Where does this feud go from here though? Swagger is on the up as a face, but really could have done with the win here.

The Lumberjack match was my personal MotN. It was great fun, and they properly utilized the Lumberjacks as they should have. Only problem is I can see Ambrose moving into a feud with Kane now. Kane hasnt had a great match in over a year, so going over him doesnt really mean that much these days. Dont know where Rollins will go from here now, if thats the feud over. All in all though, I liked the finish, I liked the brawl out in the crowd, and I loved Ambrose. He's probably the best on the roster right now. And Rollins sold the rebound clothesline like a dream.

Wyatt vs Jericho. Hoo-boy. 6 months ago Wyatt was on top of the world. Now a year into his run, he hasnt delivered in over half his singles matches this year. He was gold at Mania and Payback, but everything else has been a total let down. I think nows the time to get him out of the ring for a while and put a bit of focus back on the 'Family' aspect of the Wyatt Family. Or give him the US or IC title. Just get him away from Jericho. The two guys are great, but dont have any real chemistry, and its really shown in their 2 matches.

A stupid end to a stupid match with a stupid gimmick. I hate everything about the whole Brie vs Steph story. Everything. And now I need to sit throw atleast 5 weeks of more of the same crap. Get out of my life.

Orton vs Reigns did what it was to do. Orton looked a million bucks in that match - the Viper is definitely back. And Reigns looks good by beating him. Its still not Reigns time though, but he's well on his way.

Lesnar is incredible. This match was near-perfect for me. It was never meant to be a wrestling contest, but a fight. If I had one complaint I would maybe have liked to see Cena have a little bit more offense, but Lesnar now looks literally unbeatable. Beating him will definitely shatter glass ceilings for someone. I cant sing his praises enough.

I have to disagree with the majority of the complaints about the crowd. I actually thought they were pretty well into the PPV, with the only down points being the 'boring' chants and that god damned kid who just would stop shouting 'Lets go Cenaaaaa' in the mic.

Also interesting to note there was no Sheamus again tonight. Is he injured?

With Wyatt I think it's important to look deeper into him in terms of why he does what he is doing and giving him feuds that really help bring this out of him. Who on the roster does that? Maybe the way to take which I was thinking about is too start abducting and brainwashing people. Maybe Cesaro who eventually gets free for a WM feud. Stale characters

Lesnar is an absolute animal. There never has been and never will be a better monster heel in the wrestling business. Everything about the way he portrays himself is perfect and with Heyman as his mouth piece he will continue to thrive in his role.

My personal highlight from the match, "I will kill you".

Overall I thought it was a great show, not a poor match on the card. They are in dangerous territory with Reigns right now, they want him to be over but they are selling him like Cena and nobody will catch on. He doesn't have the charisma/merchandise of Cena which is already a problem.

I just hope they aren't building him to be the one to stop Lesnar as if he continues to go the way he is, it will be an awful moment when/if he does beat Lesnar.

I thought it was a good PPV, and whilst there were a couple of very good matches (Rollins/Ambrose and the main event), I didn't think there was a match of the year candidate on last night's card.

Miz-ziggler got off to a good start. These two showed on Raw a few weeks ago they've got some good chemistry. Suprised Ziggler won as I think there's far more mileage in the Hollywood Miz character at the moment.

Paige/Aj was their best match, but nowhere near the best women's match of the year. Sasha Banks v Bayley on NXT this week was better than this, and that was probably about the 5th best women's match on NXT this year. Pleased Paige went over, the Rampage looks a lethal finisher.

Rusev's the most underrated wrestler in the WWE. He sold the ankle throughout the match brillantly. I did think he was booked like the face overcoming the odds. I hope this is the end of the Swagger feud, and he goes after the US title.

Lumberjack matches are usually disappointing, but this was an exception. Ambrose is like Chris Jericho in 1999. Losing big matches doesn't seem to affect his popularity. Rollins is really finding his groove as a smarmy berk.

Wyatt/Jericho was ok. Like others have said, Bray's lost something in the last few months. I'd love to see him work a program with Ambrose, as I think it will invigorate him.

I'm a Stephanie McMahon guy. Think she's been the most captivating act over the last twelve months. Like her Dad, she understand wrestling psychology really well. Also find it funny that Triple H's is bumping like a madman for a woman who's 125lbs soaking wet.

Orton/Reigns had an old school feel to it. started slow and build to a crescendo. Reigns needs to find a few more moves, as he's a bit one dimensional.

The main event was captivating, and as KayFabe said, uncomfortable viewing. Credit Cena for essentially taking a 20 minute beating. I still think Reigns/Lesnar is the way the WWE wants to go, as Roman is doing a lot more media work.

Quality ppv imho. Lesner was defo the highlight for me. He was both convincing and brutal. Glad heyman didn't interfere too much. I dont want anyone to beat him! Seriously though, and I know there is much love, but I really dont want Daniel Brian to beat Brock. I think there's only a handful who can pull it off and be believeable; Cena, rock, or hhh match Brock in terms of hugeness. The only one who could elevate would be reigns for me. He will be much bigger than db in 5 years time. (Controversial or what!)

Class PPV and i had very little expectations so i was pleasantly surprised of how well it was.

Lesnar was class. Just battered Cena, but in a strange way i actually preferred there match at Extreme Rules 2012. But happy to see him as Champion, hold it till Wrestle Mania 31 i say.

Reigns vs Orton really surprised me. Why does Orton get so much heat? He is one of the best in ring performers in the business, he has upped his game this last month. 

Ambrose vs Rollins was my personal favorite. Don't see this being the end to there feud. Some great spots.

Jericho vs Wyatt - Yeah decent enough match. Not sure where Wyatt is going now though.

Miz vs Ziggler - Ziggler winning gave me a shock. Decent opening match.

AJ vs Paige - Good match, shocked Paige won.

Steph vs Brie - Saw the heel turn coming a mile off.

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OK just watched Lesnar vs Cena.

Brock is just insane

Really enjoyed it, lesnar was insanely dominant

Still can't stand Reigns, was my least favourite in the shield and dislike him even more now he's getting pushed. Get some more moves

Good pay per view, pleasantly surprising.

Ziggler vs Miz was decent, The Miz plays his role(admittedly it's probably how he acts in reality) well and it was nice to see Ziggler get a big win.

Enjoyed Paige vs AJ, would have liked the match to have gone on a bit longer and hopefully the feud continues. This version of Paige is far better than the first time she had the belt.

Rusev vs Swagger I skipped apart from the ending. Just haven't got into the feud at all, although Lana made parts of it watchable.

The Ambrose/Rollins match was fantastic, both are hot as hell right now in terms of crowd reaction. The match was fun but brutal, some of the spots were really inventive, the lumberjacks were used well and the ending hints that Ambrose will stay involved in a story against The Authority.

Wyatt vs Jericho wasn't brilliant. The video promo on the last raw built the match-up better than the previous one, but Wyatt hasn't lived up to how he was earlier in the year. Perhaps it is just a case of two guys not meshing well.

Was surprised by Steph vs Brie. Have to say I've really enjoyed the storyline but wasn't expecting much from the match. Was never going to be a classic but they made a good go of it. As someone else said, it's great watching HHH bumping all over the place for Brie(who as an aside is really hot).

Orton was great, Reigns is clearly still learning his craft, think at the moment he's currently struggling to fill a 15/20 minute match. Being part of The Shield meant his deficiencies were hidden by Rollins/Ambrose, and it also allowed him to have the high-impact/more memorable moves which is what has got him over I guess.

Lesnar went over very strong, I always thought he'd win but didn't think it would be played like that. Cena sold it very well, Lesnar looked an absolute animal and I think it gives WWE a few interesting routes to go down with Lesnar not being full time.

Kay Fabe wrote:What a main event, fascinating viewing, couldn't believe the idiotic crowd chanting "boring boring" sums them up though, it was brilliant, yes it was a bit uncomfortable to watch and yes it wasn't pretty, that's the whole point, it wasn't meant to be pretty or comfortable viewing, here we had the poster boy the kids love and for years we've allowed ourselves to believe he's protected beyond belief but last night it felt like Brock Lesnar was just allowed to go crazy on him, that was the beauty of it, the beast did what beasts do and annihilated Cena, I think Cena took it well, it makes sense, when a guy like Brock gets an early advantage like that then he should dominate the match, I don't think we see enough of that to be honest, I'm sick of seeing guys take the beating of their lives only to recover within seconds and then have the strength/stamina to overcome the original aggressor, Lesnar getting the advantage early on set the tone for him dominating the match, I think the fact it took him so much to put Cena away was a nice nod to Cena but in the end it was only a matter of time, great and somewhat unique booking for that type of match.

There were about 3 people chanting 'boring' and you can see them when it cuts to the hard camera. One has short hair and a check shirt the other 2?...well they have John Cena shirts on   

Thought that was immense. Best part? The undercard matches felt like they could go either way, you need that in those matches.

Harsh criticism on here for Reigns. Thought he played his part perfectly. Perfect education too, Orton was fantastic. Best finisher in WWE right now? He can hit it so well. And that spear counter too.

Interesting to see how people feel about the lumberjack match. Whoever made the decision to make it that match is a genius. Say what you want about Reigns, but WWE are giving Ambrose every chance to get over too. That match was about him. Rollins had to hide his strengths to play to the Ambrose role.

The main event was beautiful. As fascinating a match as ive seen in a long while. Best match since Lesnar/Punk (who, sadly, would be perfect as a man to come back and face him, but alas...)

What I want now is a story where HHH realises what hes done by selling his soul to the devil. I'd like Ambrose, crazy as he is, to want Rollins to cash in. I want Orton given a go and dismantled.

Then Bryan at RR. And Bryan to lose.

Other stuff? Surprised Ziggler won, understand Paige winning. Steph looked a better wrestler than most the divas. DDT in particular was nailed lovely.

Moans?

Don't have Stardust, Harper or Rowan as part of a lumberjack crew. Mental cases shouldnt be happy to do security work.

"Brie Mode" is the absolute worst thing i've ever heard.

That wasnt a flag match, that was a match where flags were nearby.

I want Hogan to take an F5

What I want now is a story where HHH realises what hes done by selling his soul to the devil.

Agreed, said basically this above. 

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Kay Fabe wrote:What a main event, fascinating viewing, couldn't believe the idiotic crowd chanting "boring boring" sums them up though, it was brilliant, yes it was a bit uncomfortable to watch and yes it wasn't pretty, that's the whole point, it wasn't meant to be pretty or comfortable viewing, here we had the poster boy the kids love and for years we've allowed ourselves to believe he's protected beyond belief but last night it felt like Brock Lesnar was just allowed to go crazy on him, that was the beauty of it, the beast did what beasts do and annihilated Cena, I think Cena took it well, it makes sense, when a guy like Brock gets an early advantage like that then he should dominate the match, I don't think we see enough of that to be honest, I'm sick of seeing guys take the beating of their lives only to recover within seconds and then have the strength/stamina to overcome the original aggressor, Lesnar getting the advantage early on set the tone for him dominating the match, I think the fact it took him so much to put Cena away was a nice nod to Cena but in the end it was only a matter of time, great and somewhat unique booking for that type of match.

There were about 3 people chanting 'boring' and you can see them when it cuts to the hard camera. One has short hair and a check shirt the other 2?...well they have John Cena shirts on   

The three of them musta had vioces of a foghorn then because there were parts if the match, nearer the end during the suplexes that it was ckear for all to hear!

Just remembered the flag match, agreed it wasn't a flag matcg, I was expecting one of them having to climb the corner and release their flag to get the win

RKO the best finisher in WWE right now?

Re-watched the cena/lesnar match last night and i noticed something...an annoying little kid saying "Let's Go Cena" throughout the entire match even though no one else joins in. Just this high pitched squeal constantly.

gcBlues wrote:Re-watched the cena/lesnar match last night and i noticed something...an annoying little kid saying "Let's Go Cena" throughout the entire match even though no one else joins in. Just this high pitched squeal constantly.

Yeah I noticed that on a re-watch, at first I hated it, but then I thought it worked perfectly with the match. The idea that the kid thought if he said it loud enough that Cena would get energy from it and come back, but it never happening fitted perfectly with the story.

The amount of kids that will have burst into tears during that match, thats the harshest lesson of hero crushing WWE has put on in a long time

Not the best quality but perhaps the best moment in WWE for years, I was in stitches.

JJJohnson wrote:

Not the best quality but perhaps the best moment in WWE for years, I was in stitches.

Mind blowing ring psychology right there, simply brilliant!

JJJohnson wrote:

Not the best quality but perhaps the best moment in WWE for years, I was in stitches.

I can't help but grin every time I see that. Brock Lesnar is the best in the business right now.

Just watched the full match of Brock and Cena. My god what a beating. Watching Brock is frightening. I love how he's brought his UFC ground and pound game as it just looks scary as hell when he kept punching the hell out of Cena, especially when he reversed the STF and just started laying into him, setting up the F5. One of the most memorable matches of all time. No one touches Brock's star quality. Guy is the ultimate athlete and ultimate wrestler and rightly the company are building around him. Can't wait to see him back in the ring.

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:The amount of kids that will have burst into tears during that match, thats the harshest lesson of hero crushing WWE has put on in a long time

I was quite distraught when the Shield split up Ill have you know.