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Part Moyes, part the squad SAF left him. Naive in the extreme to think yesterday would've ended up any different with SAF at the helm

FreekShow wrote:

Fernando wrote:FT 0-0

Expect to see the Maureen bus parked at Anfield this sunday as well.

There was a guy I used to work with and his mother was hit, and killed, by a bus reverse parking.

True story.

was she called maureen?

decent result, and a solid performance really.

Surprised at how timid Atletico were, they looked reluctant to commit men forward, for fear of Chelsea's counter-attacking. This, coupled with Chelsea's defensive set-up, made for a rather dull game.

Thought Luiz put in a really good shift in CM again, but good grief, I wish someone would tell him to stop taking free-kicks.

Job done for Chelsea. He get's the draw he wanted knowing Chelsea will be favourites at stamford bridge. Secondly, he keeps his more attacking players fresh and ready for anfield on sunday, where they will obviously be looking to win. Dismal match unfortunately for us fans but I didn't expect anything else tonight. He's played it superbly again has Jose.

Oh and anyone who says Atletico are overrated or Costa is overrated are just plain silly. Its ridiculously hard to play against 9 men behind the ball. Even the free flowing Barca sides have struggled with it in recent years.

mystiroakey wrote:

FreekShow wrote:

Fernando wrote:FT 0-0

Expect to see the Maureen bus parked at Anfield this sunday as well.

There was a guy I used to work with and his mother was hit, and killed, by a bus reverse parking.

True story.

was she called maureen?

I bet she enjoyed more than she would have that game

monty junior wrote:Two hours of my life I'll never get back, one of the worst CL knockout games I've ever watched  :mad: 

And to think I missed some of the Ricky Walden v Kyren Wilson action because I was foolish enough want to watch the (allegedly) near pinnacle of European club football.

1-1 in the 2nd leg would be nice.

Liam wrote:Job done for Chelsea. He get's the draw he wanted knowing Chelsea will be favourites at stamford bridge. Secondly, he keeps his more attacking players fresh and ready for anfield on sunday, where they will obviously be looking to win. Dismal match unfortunately for us fans but I didn't expect anything else tonight. He's played it superbly again has Jose.

Oh and anyone who says Atletico are overrated or Costa is overrated are just plain silly. Its ridiculously hard to play against 9 men behind the ball. Even the free flowing Barca sides have struggled with it in recent years.

they are not overrated they just arnt a top top team. and didnt commit enough. I know people can accuse chelsea of that ten fold- but you need your wide players to stretch the opposition. Costa might not work in the PL, that doesnt mean he is rubbish. far from it.

Chelsea will do exactly what athletico did to them second leg. And athletico will probally do what chelsea did!!

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:

FreekShow wrote:

Fernando wrote:FT 0-0

Expect to see the Maureen bus parked at Anfield this sunday as well.

There was a guy I used to work with and his mother was hit, and killed, by a bus reverse parking.

True story.

was she called maureen?

I bet she enjoyed more than she would have that game

Oh for sure Dolphus.

That may have been the first game that cavemen drew on their walls.

Chelsea don't park the bus, they park those pale blue disabled cars they use to keep behind the goal back in the days when the away end was just concrete steps and football was worth watching.

mystiroakey wrote:

Liam wrote:Job done for Chelsea. He get's the draw he wanted knowing Chelsea will be favourites at stamford bridge. Secondly, he keeps his more attacking players fresh and ready for anfield on sunday, where they will obviously be looking to win. Dismal match unfortunately for us fans but I didn't expect anything else tonight. He's played it superbly again has Jose.

Oh and anyone who says Atletico are overrated or Costa is overrated are just plain silly. Its ridiculously hard to play against 9 men behind the ball. Even the free flowing Barca sides have struggled with it in recent years.

they are not overrated they just arnt a top top team. and didnt commit enough. I know people can accuse chelsea of that ten fold- but you need your wide players to stretch the opposition. Costa might not work in the PL, that doesnt mean he is rubbish. far from it.

Chelsea will do exactly what athletico did to them second leg. And athletico will probally do what chelsea did!!

I think they're a top 'team' because that's what they are, the best 'team' left in the competition with one outstanding individual unlike the three other sides left in the competition. Their wide men are their full backs who constantly bomb forward. I thought they both did well tonight and did their best.

As for the 2nd leg, Atletico play the same way in every game so they won't change. Chelsea will be more attacking so I can see goals from both sides but a low scoring game. I'd stick a tenner on 1-1 tbh.

Liam wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:

Liam wrote:Job done for Chelsea. He get's the draw he wanted knowing Chelsea will be favourites at stamford bridge. Secondly, he keeps his more attacking players fresh and ready for anfield on sunday, where they will obviously be looking to win. Dismal match unfortunately for us fans but I didn't expect anything else tonight. He's played it superbly again has Jose.

Oh and anyone who says Atletico are overrated or Costa is overrated are just plain silly. Its ridiculously hard to play against 9 men behind the ball. Even the free flowing Barca sides have struggled with it in recent years.

they are not overrated they just arnt a top top team. and didnt commit enough. I know people can accuse chelsea of that ten fold- but you need your wide players to stretch the opposition. Costa might not work in the PL, that doesnt mean he is rubbish. far from it.

Chelsea will do exactly what athletico did to them second leg. And athletico will probally do what chelsea did!!

I think they're a top 'team' because that's what they are, the best 'team' left in the competition with one outstanding individual unlike the three other sides left in the competition. Their wide men are their full backs who constantly bomb forward. I thought they both did well tonight and did their best.

As for the 2nd leg, Atletico play the same way in every game so they won't change. Chelsea will be more attacking so I can see goals from both sides but a low scoring game. I'd stick a tenner on 1-1 tbh.

Nope they didnt play like a top team- they attacked conservatively to counter Chelsea's counter attack.


Players like bale, ronaldo, ribbery, silva, sureaz and sterling would get a lot more joy on current , but i suppose that doesnt disprove your point at all...

Hibbz wrote:Classic Bellsend "Chelsea have made them (Atletico) look ordinary". Yeah whilst Chelsea themselves have looked AWESOME..........

Well, he is a Chelsea guy.

Ah but Mysti, Atletico didn't bank on Chelsea countering their counter attack of Chelsea's counter attack.

Hibbz wrote:Ah but Mysti, Atletico didn't bank on Chelsea countering their counter attack of Chelsea's counter attack.

chelsea didnt bank on athletico countering there counter attcking counter attack

what an i saying..  

both managers will be happy i think.

score draw puts Madrid through. mourihio clearly only wanted a 0-0 anyway

mystiroakey wrote:

Liam wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:

Liam wrote:Job done for Chelsea. He get's the draw he wanted knowing Chelsea will be favourites at stamford bridge. Secondly, he keeps his more attacking players fresh and ready for anfield on sunday, where they will obviously be looking to win. Dismal match unfortunately for us fans but I didn't expect anything else tonight. He's played it superbly again has Jose.

Oh and anyone who says Atletico are overrated or Costa is overrated are just plain silly. Its ridiculously hard to play against 9 men behind the ball. Even the free flowing Barca sides have struggled with it in recent years.

they are not overrated they just arnt a top top team. and didnt commit enough. I know people can accuse chelsea of that ten fold- but you need your wide players to stretch the opposition. Costa might not work in the PL, that doesnt mean he is rubbish. far from it.

Chelsea will do exactly what athletico did to them second leg. And athletico will probally do what chelsea did!!

I think they're a top 'team' because that's what they are, the best 'team' left in the competition with one outstanding individual unlike the three other sides left in the competition. Their wide men are their full backs who constantly bomb forward. I thought they both did well tonight and did their best.

As for the 2nd leg, Atletico play the same way in every game so they won't change. Chelsea will be more attacking so I can see goals from both sides but a low scoring game. I'd stick a tenner on 1-1 tbh.

Nope they didnt play like a top team- they attacked conservatively to counter Chelsea's counter attack.


Players like bale, ronaldo, ribbery, silva, sureaz and sterling would get a lot more joy on current , but i suppose that doesnt disprove your point at all...

I wouldn't say they attacked conservatively. Often their holding midfielder Mario Suarez was on the edge of the area. There was no way through the middle so had to go to the wings and cross, which played into chelsea's hands.

Chelsea played exactly the same vs Bayern in the CL final and against Barca on numerous occasions. Doesn't mean they aren't top teams, just means that its very very difficult to break a team down with that many people behind the ball, especially when they are of very high defensive calibre.

Liam wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:

Liam wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:

Liam wrote:Job done for Chelsea. He get's the draw he wanted knowing Chelsea will be favourites at stamford bridge. Secondly, he keeps his more attacking players fresh and ready for anfield on sunday, where they will obviously be looking to win. Dismal match unfortunately for us fans but I didn't expect anything else tonight. He's played it superbly again has Jose.

Oh and anyone who says Atletico are overrated or Costa is overrated are just plain silly. Its ridiculously hard to play against 9 men behind the ball. Even the free flowing Barca sides have struggled with it in recent years.

they are not overrated they just arnt a top top team. and didnt commit enough. I know people can accuse chelsea of that ten fold- but you need your wide players to stretch the opposition. Costa might not work in the PL, that doesnt mean he is rubbish. far from it.

Chelsea will do exactly what athletico did to them second leg. And athletico will probally do what chelsea did!!

I think they're a top 'team' because that's what they are, the best 'team' left in the competition with one outstanding individual unlike the three other sides left in the competition. Their wide men are their full backs who constantly bomb forward. I thought they both did well tonight and did their best.

As for the 2nd leg, Atletico play the same way in every game so they won't change. Chelsea will be more attacking so I can see goals from both sides but a low scoring game. I'd stick a tenner on 1-1 tbh.

Nope they didnt play like a top team- they attacked conservatively to counter Chelsea's counter attack.


Players like bale, ronaldo, ribbery, silva, sureaz and sterling would get a lot more joy on current , but i suppose that doesnt disprove your point at all...

I wouldn't say they attacked conservatively. Often their holding midfielder Mario Suarez was on the edge of the area. There was no way through the middle so had to go to the wings and cross, which played into chelsea's hands.

Chelsea played exactly the same vs Bayern in the CL final and against Barca on numerous occasions. Doesn't mean they aren't top teams, just means that its very very difficult to break a team down with that many people behind the ball, especially when they are of very high defensive calibre.

yeah two good tactical teams- madrid with a touch more flair- which is annoying considering Chelsea's explansive options. but i cant see chelsea not scoring at the bridge with hazard - who will attack with serious intent.

I did however expect the 0-0 and backed the 0-0 so My take on it is exactly what it was from the start. Which was knowing what chelsea would do - and also backing the fact that Madrid couldn't get past them

mystiroakey wrote:

Liam wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:

Liam wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:

Liam wrote:Job done for Chelsea. He get's the draw he wanted knowing Chelsea will be favourites at stamford bridge. Secondly, he keeps his more attacking players fresh and ready for anfield on sunday, where they will obviously be looking to win. Dismal match unfortunately for us fans but I didn't expect anything else tonight. He's played it superbly again has Jose.

Oh and anyone who says Atletico are overrated or Costa is overrated are just plain silly. Its ridiculously hard to play against 9 men behind the ball. Even the free flowing Barca sides have struggled with it in recent years.

they are not overrated they just arnt a top top team. and didnt commit enough. I know people can accuse chelsea of that ten fold- but you need your wide players to stretch the opposition. Costa might not work in the PL, that doesnt mean he is rubbish. far from it.

Chelsea will do exactly what athletico did to them second leg. And athletico will probally do what chelsea did!!

I think they're a top 'team' because that's what they are, the best 'team' left in the competition with one outstanding individual unlike the three other sides left in the competition. Their wide men are their full backs who constantly bomb forward. I thought they both did well tonight and did their best.

As for the 2nd leg, Atletico play the same way in every game so they won't change. Chelsea will be more attacking so I can see goals from both sides but a low scoring game. I'd stick a tenner on 1-1 tbh.

Nope they didnt play like a top team- they attacked conservatively to counter Chelsea's counter attack.


Players like bale, ronaldo, ribbery, silva, sureaz and sterling would get a lot more joy on current , but i suppose that doesnt disprove your point at all...

I wouldn't say they attacked conservatively. Often their holding midfielder Mario Suarez was on the edge of the area. There was no way through the middle so had to go to the wings and cross, which played into chelsea's hands.

Chelsea played exactly the same vs Bayern in the CL final and against Barca on numerous occasions. Doesn't mean they aren't top teams, just means that its very very difficult to break a team down with that many people behind the ball, especially when they are of very high defensive calibre.

yeah two good tactical teams- madrid with a touch more flair- which is annoying considering Chelsea's explansive options. but i cant see chelsea not scoring at the bridge with hazard - who will attack with serious intent.

I did however expect the 0-0 and backed the 0-0 so My take on it is exactly what it was from the start. Which was knowing what chelsea would do - and also backing the fact that Madrid couldn't get past them

Yeh I agree, they'll play a more expansive line up for sure, that's where I see Atletico becoming favourites. They've beaten Real away twice this season and they, for me, have a better attacking line up than Chelsea, and have drawn away and beaten Barca away this season. Scoring in both. So I can definitely see them scoring at Chelsea, whilst also having enough defensively to keep them from running away like PSG allowed them to.

well they have a striker - chelsea dont!!

give costa chances and he will convert.

however - i cant see them being favs- its on a knife edge. chelsea will hope hazard can beat players in the final third and make more chances than any other.

Hazard is a very underated player- top in the pl with dribbling stats- backed up with 2nd in key passes.

He doesnt show up on asists or goals- but he has contributed to almost all of Chelsea's attack- hazard also pulls players away from other areas which allows willian to really have a run at the opposition.

but they dont have a finisher! you would back lamps to finish one- but he is out!

Only thing is you're expecting to see the usual hazard but he has been out for a while so may be a little rusty. I also expect E'to to come back into the starting line up unless he gives ba the nod due to his performance vs PSG at the bridge.

The Lamps yellow is a biggie for Chelsea, given how awful a call it was. While nowhere near his 2000s levels, you'd still feel more confident in Lampard getting the opportunity than anyone else on the park for Chelsea. Also back him to thread the key pass more than anyone, except maybe Hazard.

I think lampard is pretty average now tbh. Put my money on his to dispatch a pen but playmaking wise don't think he's a great loss. Oscar and Hazard being back will more than make up for lampard's absence.

Going in studs up catching the man first you'll get a yellow 99/100, he can't complain. I think it's on a knife edge, Chelsea have a few guys out, Athletico are playing on fumes imo, very small squad which could be their undoing, not necessarily in London but certainly in the last couple of games in La Liga. 1-0 Chelsea or 1-1 with Athletico going through, for a better final I'd prefer Athletico to go through, bit of a broken record here but Chelsea are just horrible to watch. They played a good team tonight but they have players that can do damage themselves but Mourinho showed no ambition, he doesn't have to, it's a good result in some ways, just sad for us.

Tbh I was disappointed in Chelsea. Ok Atletico are a very good team in very good form, but it's hardly going to the Bernabeu, or Allianz, Nou Camp etc. Even vs PSG they showed something.

Today they were abject. Mourinho might as well have swapped Torres for an extra midfielder, isolated isnt the word. Atletico weren't willing to go fully gung ho and so it cancelled out. Neither side upset with 0-0, football the loser. Here's to hoping Real and Bayern lives up to the occasion.

Boring Boring Chelsea.

What a boring game of football.

Don't think anyone for either side put in a decent cross. Waste of my time. Luckily i won 20 bob on the quiz machine.

Also how annoying was it when ITV kept saying Diego's full name. Its Diego. Reason 452 why i don't like there football coverage.

There was about three Diego's playing tbf.

Still can't get over how we let David Luiz take, and waste, both free kicks in massive positions. Not even gonna say anything about the corner at the end. It's the kind of game where set pieces will be the best chance to get an away goal.

I think that corner at the end summed up the game perfectly ... rubbish.

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Injuries and suspensions mean Chelsea probably line up for 2nd leg as;


With Matic and Mikel still available v Liverpool, expect a similar approach on Sunday.

Also how good was Mikel? Harshly booked too, but he was the definition of a defensive midfielder last night.

Hopefully Hazard is fit. If he is we win.

Thought Lineker made a good point on twitter. As solid as Terry and Cahill were its a lot easier when the FBs don't attack and multiple CMs sit in front

True GSC but Atletico put in a lot of crosses that Terry and Cahill dealt with on their own for the most part.

Mourinho said if it were up to him anyone available for the 2nd leg wont play v Liverpool, so Mikel, Lampard, Matic and Salah plus god knows who else!

The Atletico forward headed more crosses clear!

Both sides gave each other too much respect last neither. Chelsea turned up for 0-0, Atletico didn't want to concede an away goal.

Marky wrote:True GSC but Atletico put in a lot of crosses that Terry and Cahill dealt with on their own for the most part.

Mourinho said if it were up to him anyone available for the 2nd leg wont play v Liverpool, so Mikel, Lampard, Matic and Salah plus god knows who else!

Brave move and one that could really back fire if they get beat by a few on Sunday. I'd expect them to beat Atletico at Stamford Bridge, but beating Bayern or Real without Terry or Cech at the back will be very difficult.

I'm not sure I expect Chelsea to go through, Atletico are really tough to beat, as demonstrated by them being the only unbeaten side left in the competition

hampo171 wrote:

Marky wrote:True GSC but Atletico put in a lot of crosses that Terry and Cahill dealt with on their own for the most part.

Mourinho said if it were up to him anyone available for the 2nd leg wont play v Liverpool, so Mikel, Lampard, Matic and Salah plus god knows who else!

Brave move and one that could really back fire if they get beat by a few on Sunday. I'd expect them to beat Atletico at Stamford Bridge, but beating Bayern or Real without Terry or Cech at the back will be very difficult.

Mourinho has said Terry will only play again this season in the final. Doubt Cech will be able to. Depends how bad his ribs are. They've got a whole month to recover for the final.

Then again, we won it with a pair of centre backs who had one good hamstring between them.

Has anyone ever told Jose it's £90-100 to go to watch Chelsea? Including train fare, tube fare and food & drink.

Not his fault about costs. All I've heard this morning is moaning by Chelsea fans. Jose had a plan & the side executed it extremely well, in difficult circumstances with injuries etc & going to, lets remember, the leader of la liga. Dull football is only truly dull if it fails......it didn't. Your in the tie & will probably end up winning the second leg. Jose is still in a job because he knows how to set teams up, unlike other managers who are now unemployed. Would you have liked Chelsea to have attacked, been opened up & then 3-1 down going into the return leg, like last time. I don't think so.

Jose tactically spot on, 0-0 & made the supposedly 'dark horses' and wonders of Spain this year look distinctly average at best.

I don't have any issues with the style. I do not care how we play just so long as we don't lose.

Simeone playing mind games today in the Spanish press. Says he has 'English spies' and knew exactly the starting team and tactics of Chelsea.

It was a disappointing attacking performance but you got the impression both managers were keeping things close to their chests. Atletico have a difficult away game in Valencia this Sunday and his players won't be anywhere near as drained for that match as they were after Barcelona. Then they have until Wednesday to prepare for a huge match where they will once again play a mix of containment and pressing forward, which is what Mourinho will have to do as well as he doesn't have an away goal to defend with.

Last night was a stalemate and nobody came off badly apart from the injury to Cech. I wonder if Mourinho will rue not scoring an away goal as Atletico are perfectly capable of scoring one when they put their minds to it. Going to be a fascinating return match.

John wrote:Not his fault about costs. All I've heard this morning is moaning by Chelsea fans. Jose had a plan & the side executed it extremely well, in difficult circumstances with injuries etc & going to, lets remember, the leader of la liga. Dull football is only truly dull if it fails......it didn't. Your in the tie & will probably end up winning the second leg. Jose is still in a job because he knows how to set teams up, unlike other managers who are now unemployed. Would you have liked Chelsea to have attacked, been opened up & then 3-1 down going into the return leg, like last time. I don't think so.

Jose tactically spot on, 0-0 & made the supposedly 'dark horses' and wonders of Spain this year look distinctly average at best.

He's extracting a near maximum from a sub optimal Chelsea squad.

If he plays like that next season when he gets all the players he wants then we can criticise.

Munich vs Madrid tonight, score predictions?

3-0 Munich.

1-2

Really GSC? Is that because the only way to beat a Pep team is to put 10 men behind the ball and defend but Real can't actually defend so will have to attack resulting in disaster?

Depends if Ronaldo and bale are fit IMO.

They beat them in 2012 at home, can see Madrid winning again.

I just don't think Real will see enough of the ball, and won't do enough with it given a half fit Ronaldo. Bayern will pick them off, seen multiple times Real don't have the temperament in big games.

Just won a cup final against barca, beat atletico handily in the semis/quarters (forget which round).

I think bayern will win the tie but can see real winning tonight.

If Ronaldo is fit (think he will be) and bale well I doubt they will get beat 3-0.

LOVELY GOAL

This is already better than last night's game!! Two very nice passes there to cut through Bayern's weak spot. You get the feeling Rafinha's only there to make up the numbers.

Why are they saying Bale has the flu? If he had the flu he would 100% be at home in bed. He obviously has a cold.

Lovely opening goal by Madrid, sexy football.

Been a very good even game so far.

Luka Modric been the best player on the pitch for me.