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Post by The Saint Sun 19 Jan 2014, 1:23 pm

First topic message reminder :

Didn't see a thread on his, which is surprising as it has the potential to be the game of the weekend. Both teams are chasing a place in Amlin Challenge Cup (better than a kick in the teeth).

Scarlets: Aled Thomas, Kristian Phillips, Gareth Maule, Scott Williams, Jordan Williams, Rhys Priestland, Gareth Davies, Phil John, Emyr Phillips, Samson Lee, George Earle, Jake Ball, Aaron Shingler, John Barclay, Rob McCusker (c)

Replacements: Ken Owens, Rob Evans, Jacobie Adriaanse, Johan Snyman, Josh Turnbull, Rhodri Williams, Adam Warren, Gareth Owen

Harlequins: Mike Brown, Ollie Lindsay-Hague, Matt Hopper, Tim Molenaar, Ugo Monye, Nick Evans, Karl Dickson; Joe Marler, Dave Ward, Will Collier, Nick Kennedy, George Robson, Luke Wallace, Chris Robshaw (C), Nick Easter

Replacements: Joe Gray, Mark Lambert, Paul Doran Jones, Charlie Matthews, Tom Guest, Sam Stuart, Ben Botica, Tom Williams

Referee: Jerome Garces (France)

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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon 20 Jan 2014, 3:26 pm

Heaf wrote:
ChequeredJersey wrote:(c) Pushover try. A scrum or ruck cannot take place in the in-goal. If a scrum or ruck is pushed into the in-goal, an attacking player may legally ground the ball as soon as the ball reaches or crosses the goal line and a try is scored.

is the bit. If there is no ruck he can't be offside

but before the ball popped out the ruck wasn't in the in-goal area and he was standing in an offside position so would it have been OK if he'd been standing in the in-goal area too when the ball popped out?

I think that is fluffy, Biltong probably has a better idea
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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon 20 Jan 2014, 3:29 pm

ScarletSpiderman wrote:CJ, I think we are decided that Garces was not on his best form last night, however he seemed to make a balanced amount of frock ups.  Shingler and the bloke who wasted Gareth Davies, both possibly lenient, a few blocks missed both ways, and not turning the pen over for the punch up  furious .  But all in all it was a great match to watch, and a real example of how to play attacking rugby, even in dire conditions.

He also completely ignored the concept of straight feeds and throws for both sides. It helped make the game continuous though, so as long as he was relativeky consistent (I thought he was) I'm OK with it. That probably contributed to letting the blocking go too.
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Post by Heaf Mon 20 Jan 2014, 3:32 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:The ruck was always finishing in the in goal area no?

not so sure - I thought the ball popped out and just about touched the try-line and before that the ruck was in-field - but the same question applies - if a player is allowed to stand offside and then touch the ball down when it touches the line what's the difference to him being allowed to stand offside in the in-goal area which surely can't be right? I still think whilst there is no offside once the ball touches the line you surely have to come from a position that's on-side just as the ball touches? Take a pushover try - I doubt the SH would be allowed to run past the line of the ball and come in from the opposing side to touch it down just as it crossed the line would he?

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Post by Comfort Tue 21 Jan 2014, 2:00 pm

The Scarlequins would be a great side to watch with ball in hand, that's all I'm really sure of.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Tue 21 Jan 2014, 2:05 pm

Scarlequins 23:

15- Brown
14- Williams
13- JD2
12- Williams
11- Walker (actually Monye or our Williams would be better all around but this adds to the attacking intent)
10- Nev
9- Care
8- Easter
7- Barclay
6- Robshaw
5- Robson
4- Timani
3- Lee
2- Ward
1- Marler

Owens, Jones, Collier, Matthews, Shingler/Wallace, Williams, Priestland, Williams

Not a bad side.
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Post by Heaf Tue 21 Jan 2014, 2:10 pm

Good name - or maybe the Harlets?

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Post by Comfort Tue 21 Jan 2014, 3:01 pm

 I often think 606 should be in charge of amalgamation of the UK sides, we'd make it work.

well, they'd all have awesome names and attack from anywhere... Cool

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Post by ChequeredJersey Tue 21 Jan 2014, 3:22 pm

Comfort wrote: I often think 606 should be in charge of amalgamation of the UK sides, we'd make it work.

well, they'd all have awesome names and attack from anywhere...  Cool

If we did the same for players, imagine how good Rhys Evans would be as a Fly-half? Or Barcshaw at 7?
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Post by Comfort Tue 21 Jan 2014, 3:58 pm

oh CJ, we just need a genetics laboratory, a mad scientist from eastern europe and a hair from every professional player at the top level......

That backline, could be something special!

Willicare
Priestvan
Monyillips
Molenwilliaams
Haule
William-Hague
Brilliams (admitedly I've subbed Liam Williams here)

BEWARE THE COMING OF THE FRANKENSCARLEQUINS.

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