Barclays Premier League 13/14 Thread Part 'x'

[Crimey]

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[Ent]

Don't think he has gone completely crazy yet.

He's playing januzaj so he is up for giving people a chance.

If kagawa can't get a game why would zaha?

[mystiroakey]

kagawa has had loads of game time

over a 1000 minutes in the PL and CL

Zaha has had 30 mins!!

[Hammersmith harrier]

If Moyes thinks Zaha's attitude stinks then that's good enough for me, as C and R alluded to you can get away with it at some teams but not at United.

[GSC]

Moyes is just an overprotective dad

[Ent]

Kagawa had obviously earned that chance, he hasn't taken it and doesn't get starts.

Zaha just needs to earn his chances and take them.

[The Special Juan]

Anything else going on in EPL, other than the 'life & times of Wilfried Zaha'?

Apparently not.

[mystiroakey]

Kagawa had obviously earned that chance, he hasn't taken it and doesn't get starts.

Zaha just needs to earn his chances and take them.

So you admit your argument was completely wrong then..

[Ent]

No.

[mystiroakey]

Moyes is just an overprotective dad

I hope he got his daughter pregnant.

[mystiroakey]

No.

So what are you saying then. That those 1000 mins of game time is in the rest of the worlds imagination.

[Ent]

Kagawa does not get playing regularly for united, less so under moyes and he is an established player.

I don't know why you expect zaha to.

[mystiroakey]

Can you understand the difference between 30 mins and 1000.

[GSC]

Not PL but West Ham are charging their fans 24 quid a goal so far

[Lumbering_Jack]

Do you think Andy Carroll wakes up in the morning, looks in the mirror and thinks, 'yep, my facial hair and hair style are great'?

He must not own a mirror. Or have any friends.

[Ent]

Can you understand the difference between a German league winner and player of the year and an unproven youngster.

[mystiroakey]

Yes.

As stated kagawa is playing loads of football. How is he a valid comparison.

He is getting games. You said he wasn't. You were wrong, just move on.

[GSC]

Probably is too confused by how teams have paid 50m for him to remember to shave

[Ent]

Ah I see it has come down to pedantry.

[mystiroakey]

Just move on mate. Kawaga has played zaha hasn't. It's not really my fault I can't compute your example.

Kawaga has had his chance and failed every time, well bar a couple of CL games were I thought he played nicely. Zaha hasn't even had 1 chance.

The annoying thing about this argument is that in the past you have even agreed he should have had a chance. So I don't know why you have changed your tune.

[Ent]

I didn't suggest he had never played, merely trying to illustrate how others have struggled to get into the side despite bigger reputations.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Do you think Andy Carroll wakes up in the morning, looks in the mirror and thinks, 'yep, my facial hair and hair style are great'?

He must not own a mirror. Or have any friends.

I think he looks glorious!

[mystiroakey]

Well then you are totally missing the point,

The point is about getting a chance . Zaha hasn't had one.

Kawaga has had an extended run and been rubbish, so has cleverly, so has young, so has nani, so has Fellani, so has Anderson..

Shall I keep going?

[Guest]

Shall I keep going?

No

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Zaha has had some chances, he played against us in the capital one cup and did sweet bugger all in a game when we made Phil Jones look like Zidane

[mystiroakey]

Ok let's talk palace then.

[Duty281]

Ok let's talk palace then.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25819091

Europe's largest squad apparently.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Negredo has just dived at 9-0 on aggregate and hurt himself

[mystiroakey]

That sounds really intelligent....

[Fernando]

Well atleast the Citeh fans have been sympathetic to you guys, Had a lovely song of "Could be worse, Could of had Moyes   

[mystiroakey]

  

[NickisBHAFC]

Anything else going on in EPL, other than the 'life & times of Wilfried Zaha'?

  

The way he mentioned on here, one would think he is in the ranks of Messi and Ronaldo.

I have heard he has attitude problems, but that doesn't surprise me. Brought up in the dodgy ends of London.

[mystiroakey]

Well we all know you have a passion for talking about him!!

[socal1976]

Do you think Andy Carroll wakes up in the morning, looks in the mirror and thinks, 'yep, my facial hair and hair style are great'?

He must not own a mirror. Or have any friends.

I think he looks glorious!

You would.

[Crimey]

To be fair, I think Carroll looks pretty cool like that, more footballers should get unique looks like that, they hardly have normal lives so it makes very little difference.

Carroll isn't blessed in the looks department so may as well make himself look as different as possible.

[J.Benson II]

Carroll isn't blessed in the looks department so may as well make himself look as different as possible.

Remember reading some Agony Aunt's column last year and some woman said she was obsessed with Andy Carroll and would really think about him when she's getting it off with her partner.

  

[Fernando]

David Moyes’ crumbling relationship with Wilfried Zaha is at a new low after it emerged that he ordered the young winger’s exclusion from Monday night’s reserve game because he was 45 minutes late meeting up with the squad.
Zaha has been left fuming in recent days after Moyes told him that he could not leave the club on loan until injuries to other players had cleared up.
But Moyes’ irritation at what he has perceived to be a lack of professionalism and commitment from the former Crystal Palace winger all season finally boiled over on Monday when he was informed that the 21-year-old had arrived three-quarters of an hour late for Monday’s reserve game against Middlesbrough at the AJ Bell Stadium in Salford.

[mystiroakey]

I thought we had dropped that subject..

Don't get me started again. I need to do some work today

[Crimey]

Mancini has said that he should get praise for City's success this season because it his team that is playing so well rather than Pellegrini's. He also said that the only reason he didn't get back to back Premier League wins with City was because Manchester United bought RVP. Do people agree?

I do to a certain extent, City's side is mostly the one he built but to suggest he should get more praise comes across as quite petulant and ignored Negredo and Fernandinhp who have both settled really well and are now core parts of the side. It also misses out the fact that Mancini at times struggled to get the best out of certain players where Pellegrini has excelled. Nasri looks back to his best, Toure is playing miles better than last year and his ruthlessness with Hart has probably made him a much better player.

I do agree with the RVP argument because it was likely if he didn't go to United he would have gone to the blue half of Manchester. However had Arsenal not sold at all or sold abroad I am not sure where the title would have gone, City were very poor and inconsistent in Mancini's final year, you'd have to question whether they would have won the title.

I do think that Mancini had taken City as far as they could and Pellegrini is getting the players to fulfil their potential that Mancini couldn't. But to be fair, the team wouldn't be where they were without Mancini who guided then through a difficult transitional phase to where they are now.

[mystiroakey]

Mancini did very well with his buys. He can spot a talent.

But is he a man manager is the question.

Man U did win due to a combination of RVP and Man Citehs inconstancy.

Man Citeh have still been inconstant this season but are slowly getting more and more consitant under Peligrini, There top level of football is also better than Mancinis.

BUt happy to praise him for his buys as stated before. He just didn't work well with the players at the team. To many bust ups and to many dodgy performances as a result.

[Crimey]

Mancini bought well in his first season but his second summer was awful. Javi Garcia, Jack Rodwell, Scott Sinclair are not good enough. I'd argue that Negredo and Fernandinho are two of the best signings City have made because they went under the radar of other big clubs. They perhaps overspent on Fernandinho, but he was just what they needed and think him settling has been what has spurred City to keep improving. Negredo is probably the best signing of the season, I questioned it but he's been superb, and for such a cheap price relative to other strikers of similar quality and age. Think most top clubs in Europe are furious they didn't snap him up before City could considering he was being linked to clubs like West Ham rather than Madrid or Bayern.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Pellegrini's taken them to the next level, after Mancini had taken them as far as he could really.

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